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Emmanuel Sanders on Roethlisberger

He's worked with Manning all of 5 days.

My comment there had less to do with Manning and more to do with Ben. If it's true that Steeler WR's frequently approached Ben and wanted to put in extra work with him and he blew them off, that is deserving of criticism for being a lousy leader. I don't know that it is true, I'm just saying.
 
Lance Moore handled his signing with the Steelers with more class. He showed respect for both Brees and Ben. That's the way it should be. Not that my new wife of five days is a better wife than my ex of 4 years. Maybe it's true, but how can you make that true comparison so soon unless there is a little malice underlined there.
 
My comment there had less to do with Manning and more to do with Ben. If it's true that Steeler WR's frequently approached Ben and wanted to put in extra work with him and he blew them off, that is deserving of criticism for being a lousy leader. I don't know that it is true, I'm just saying.

My guess is the entire comment was designed mostly to kiss Peyton's ***, not to put down Ben at all, unfortunately for Sanders it was worded incredibly stupidly. You don't trash the people who helped make you. Would Sanders even be a blip on the radar screen on many NFL teams? Like I said, I liked the guy and thought he had potential, but he was hardly an elite playmaker. Ben helped make him. A bit of gratitude for that might be nice.
 
Lance Moore handled his signing with the Steelers with more class. He showed respect for both Brees and Ben. That's the way it should be. Not that my new wife of five days is a better wife than my ex of 4 years. Maybe it's true, but how can you make that true comparison so soon unless there is a little malice underlined there.

Both your wives are pretty nice, least ways, thats the general consensus :) J/K good point about sanders

He did take a shot at Ben. If you read his statement, he implies that he wanted to work with Ben after practice to get better and Ben would blow him off. This was more about him making excuses for his so far ****** career.

Manny needed work after practice. First off he was always behind on the curve, due to injuries. Secondly, was he truly that good to begin with? I understand wanting the extra time but past the halfway point, do you really want your QB doing the extra throws, just to get a receiver caught up to speed? I think some of what sanders says is true, but I'm also guessing the circumstances didn't allow some too.


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My guess is the entire comment was designed mostly to kiss Peyton's ***, not to put down Ben at all, unfortunately for Sanders it was worded incredibly stupidly. You don't trash the people who helped make you. Would Sanders even be a blip on the radar screen on many NFL teams? Like I said, I liked the guy and thought he had potential, but he was hardly an elite playmaker. Ben helped make him. A bit of gratitude for that might be nice.

I wouldn't be surprised if he has a career year. They throw a lot and Manning spreads the ball around a lot.
 
So you mean a guy who is seriously in contention for the discussion of the best QB of all time is better than a guy who is in discussions for the top 20 to maybe, possibly, the top 10 of all time?

Sanders is a ******* genius.
 
I understand wanting the extra time but past the halfway point, do you really want your QB doing the extra throws, just to get a receiver caught up to speed?

When he is your starting receiver, hell yes you do, if you want to have a working offense.
 
He said something that most of us could believe to be true. Peyton probably sleeps at the facility. I would be surprised if there is a QB in the NFL that works as hard as Peyton Manning. It would have been idiotic of him to say something to piss off his new QB.
 
He said this same stuff when he got picked up by the Broncos back during the start of free agency, why is it news again? Certainly can't wait until preseason games start, this offseason has been too damn long.
 
So a wr sucks up to his new QB... not exactly a front page story there... he is just trying to get more looks
 
Sanders is a punk. Funny, a few years back I was a bit sad to see Wallace leave, but not so with Sanders. I never regained confidence in Manny after his several brain-fart plays losing the ball in the open field. A real "me-first" kind of guy, good riddance he's gone. He'll have a big-*** target on his back if we get around to playing the Broncos, hope he gets busted up real good. Okay, I feel better now.
 
He said this same stuff when he got picked up by the Broncos back during the start of free agency, why is it news again? Certainly can't wait until preseason games start, this offseason has been too damn long.

no news is always good news.
And actually this offseason has been pretty exciting with the FA acquisitions, Mitchell, Moats, even Cam Thomas looks like a serviceable body
 
It's football. Not nuclear physics. All that extra work, like the Seahawks showed, if your athletes are better, you will still get your *** kicked.
 
How many horrible plays did Sanders make when he was here really? I'm asking an honest question because I can't remember many that stood out, but maybe I wasn't paying attention. Also did he say a lot of inflammatory stuff in the media when he was on the team? People seem to really really dislike him and I could never figure it out. He just kind of blended into the scenery like wallpaper from what I can remember, both with his play and his personality. What am I missing? Been meaning to ask this for like a year because it always confused me.
 
Supersteeler...

It was two fumbles against the Browns (lost one), then the "air fumble" vs Ravens in the middle of the field.

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Don't forget all the minor injuries as well, played two series in the SB then went down. Missed a bunch of time with the foot injury. Instead of focusing on establishing himself as a bonafide player, he seemed to be angling leaving to the Pats a few years back now he's elated to be with the Broncos. Just never seemed to me to be a Steelers' guy. Part of that 'young money' crew that was all about pimpin' and posin' but didn't win much of anything.

Add to all that Sanders' crony agent, and I smell a skunk.

Steve Weinberg (Sanders’ agent) originally accepted a deal that would have sent Sanders to the Kansas City Chiefs. Weinberg then tried to use the Chiefs deal as leverage in negotiations with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, before eventually blowing off both teams and agreeing to terms with the Broncos. The San Francisco 49ers were also left in the dust, believing they had a meeting lined up with Weinberg. Weinberg is no stranger to shady business, as NFL.com notes the NFLPA barred and decertified the agent in 2003 for diverting assets to an offshore account while having a dispute with a former partner. Lying to three NFL teams seems like a surefire way to get barred once again.
 
Eh, Brown and Sanders started the "Young Money" thing. Just happens that AB is a superior player, maybe he IS a harder worker than Sanders, maybe he's just naturally more gifted I don't know. I remember those couple fumbles, I thought maybe there was more to it considering the vitriol.
 
He had 67 catches and 6 TD's last year......and 1 fumble (3 career fumbles). I still don't get what rubs so many people the wrong way.
 
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Manny Sanders was at his best our third or fourth WR while he was here. It's not some big loss, so worrying about what he thinks seems like a waste of time and effort. He will put up numbers in Denver because they will throw the ball a lot and he is surrounded by players there who are also a lot better than he is, so he will draw the weakest coverage. Someone saying Ben isn't the best leader, or doesn't put in the most extra work isn't exactly a news flash for anyone who's been around more than five minutes if you want to believe what's always been inferred. Nobody here knows what goes on behind the scenes, so there probably are players who just don't get along. It could be as simple as that.
 
He had 67 catches and 6 TD's last year......and 1 fumble (3 career fumbles). I still don't get what rubs so many people the wrong way.

He also had several KEY drops, like the 2 pt conversion attempt against the ravens. Sanders problem is he has poor body control, falls down too easily. He runs good routes, has decent hands, but the body control, lack of after the catch ability. He's fast, but can't adjust to the ball when he's going all out. He doesn't have the footwork. You won't see him make the "wow" play, just the ho hum play. Very inconsistent player. He just never lived up to his potential while he was here. Didn't have the same work ethic as Brown does...

And for the record, the young money crew was started with Wallace, Sanders, and Brown...
 
He also had several KEY drops, like the 2 pt conversion attempt against the ravens. Sanders problem is he has poor body control, falls down too easily. He runs good routes, has decent hands, but the body control, lack of after the catch ability. He's fast, but can't adjust to the ball when he's going all out. He doesn't have the footwork. You won't see him make the "wow" play, just the ho hum play. Very inconsistent player. He just never lived up to his potential while he was here. Didn't have the same work ethic as Brown does...

And for the record, the young money crew was started with Wallace, Sanders, and Brown...

He did have a couple drops I know. One of which was a tough ******* catch lol. I don't know if it was the two pointer in question or not but I remember being on here after the play and people are going ape **** about it being an easy catch and I thought, "Are these people nuts, that catch would have been awesome!" Maybe I'm thinking of a different one. All I know is he didn't have 1/4 of the drops that Wallace had.
 
looks like Peyton may be putting in more exclusive one-on-one time with Manny since maybe Manny is the worst of their WRs and needs the work?
 
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