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Oh good grief.
Finally media sees the real problem:Tomlin needs to quit talking
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Oh good grief.
I don't think (some) of the refs know what constitutes a penalty by it's definition anyway. That said sniveling and whining over "bad calls" when you lose is sour grapes anyway. The game of football has been skewed toward high scoring offensive passing extravaganzas. If you fart near a QB it's a personal foul. If a receiver trips over his own feet and a defender doesn't have his head turned around it's pass interference. When the football is snapped and about 1 1/2 tons of linemen are engaging each other with hands arms and bodies everywhere, how does a sideline judge get to make an "illegal hands to the face" call?
What's the answer? Go out and dominate the other team and quit loafing.
What's the answer? Go out and dominate the other team and quit loafing.
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Why couldn't they just transfer the current six-figure salaries of the part-time guys to some full-time officials?
Not saying that Roger deserves $44M in salary, but I'm not convinced that being a full-time NFL referee is a half-million-dollar-a-year job. It's totally ******* retarded that the current part-time guys even crack $100K, but they made $173K each in 2013. They certainly don't EARN that much through their performance.
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The obvious counterpoint to your argument is : Jason Worilds
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I don't think full time refs will help. The game is so fast with bodies everywhere that there will be bad calls everywhere still. I mean what would a full time ref do? Sit and watch film 40 hours a week? you can know the rule book and get plays right in a classroom, but it's a different animal on the field. Only thing I can think of to help is reviewable penalties and punishments for poor refs. Maybe give each coach 2 play challenges and 2 penalty/non - penalty challenges per half.
I still don't think refs are to blame for the game. It should not come down to penalties at home against an 0-3 team anyways.
I still don't think refs are to blame for the game. It should not come down to penalties at home against an 0-3 team anyways.
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Tomlin said today he called the 3rd down play and the problem was in its execution. He said he was comfortable with the call and has no regrets. This is the same stupid **** he said after the playoff loss to Jacksonville when on 3rd and 6 he ran an injured Ben on a QB keeper and the same thing he stupidly said after failing on the 12 yard 2 point attempt. We have a dummy and a stubborn *** as our head coach.
Hire guys who can eschew any other professions, are willing to take their jobs seriously 365 days a year, pay them well for their service, and referee performances will drastically improve.
What's totally retarded is paying Roger Goodell twice what the top player in the NFL makes while the product on the field suffers.
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Goodell is paid by the owners to improve revenue streams, like him or hate him, the NFL revenue has exploded under Goodell.
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Here's another. Really well written.
Why exactly is Tomlin untouchable?
http://dkonpittsburghsports.com/2014/09/28/column-why-exactly-is-tomlin-untouchable/
Why exactly is Tomlin untouchable?
http://dkonpittsburghsports.com/2014/09/28/column-why-exactly-is-tomlin-untouchable/
fine any player 5000 for TD celebration and toss ball to line judge and get to sideline and then dance
all d players and st players have daily film on what is legal and what hit is illegal.
all d players and st players have daily film on what is legal and what hit is illegal.
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drop dead, bag o' *****.
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I love that though. They're not going to change how they approach things or how they work. They're just going to change their desired results.
We're going to do everything exactly the same, but we going to change our expected results. His coach speak is flat out insulting. He uses some half-*** attempt at educated idiot-speak.
Dear God, I'm going to have to interview Tomlin.
We're going to do everything exactly the same, but we going to change our expected results. His coach speak is flat out insulting. He uses some half-*** attempt at educated idiot-speak.
Dear God, I'm going to have to interview Tomlin.
Yes the play call was the same play that worked for big gains earleier in the game. Its a play with a pass/run option. Called earlier Bell went for a big gain when it was a run. Miller went for a big gain when it was a pass. You pass it when Miller or Wheaton are left uncovered. The Bucs lined up in press coverage on the last play. So Ben ran it. Each lineman had a person to block. It was 5 on 5. Someone lost their block. Sounds like execution to me..
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Who gives a **** if it worked earlier in the game. TB was jamming the LOS and the play was destined to fail as it was a RUN play as Ben said today.
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Seems Ben also knows the dumb *** Tomlin is also a liar.
http://www.Invalid Link - Check SN ...-run-pass-options-late-third-play-buccaneers/
http://www.Invalid Link - Check SN ...-run-pass-options-late-third-play-buccaneers/
It wasnt destined to fail. It failed because one player missed their block thats execution. It was 5 vs 5 everbody make their block play works. Nothing wrong with the call it wasnt executed.
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What a shock you don't mention Tomlin's lie and bullshit and instead praise a play that was destined to fail. You don't pick up 5 yards against a stacked defense and of course we have a big, dumb, slow poor offensive line. Your constant fellating of Tomlin gets old and the excuses are incredibly stupid and poorly thought out.
Welcome back Franco.
I can't argue the logic, but that would not have been my call. With 5 yards I would have preferred a play action bootleg giving Ben a run/pass option on the edge. This play IS the game. You have to approach the final first down as THE MOST IMPORTANT CALL OF THE GAME, because it is. That was Tomlin's biggest coaching error this season. I hope he learned from it, because I'd hate to see Norv Turner/Herm Edwards coaching moves continue on this team.
I cant argue because while watching the game this was the play i wanted. The play they ran too Miller that worked all game. This was it. But this time the Bucs had press coverage taking away Miller. On first down i would of ran Play action. Hindsight is always 20/20 though
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I don't think it was Tomlin's call at all. I think he is taking the heat for Haley. The call WAS destined to fail and here is why... Tampa had their entire D within 5 yards of the LOS, they were anticipating run, sold out to stop the run, and we gave them exactly what they expected. One guy didn't miss their block, several guys missed blocks, and several guys were not accounted for. Bell had no shot to get out of the backfield. It was blown up from the start.
You say it worked earlier in the game for big gains, Tampa held Bell in check, he was averaging just 3.3 yards per carry and only had 63 yards on 19 carries. He did have a decent run, and a few catches... but this was his worst game of the year. And that's not a knock on Bell, that's just what Tampa has been able to do this year against the run.
You say it worked earlier in the game for big gains, Tampa held Bell in check, he was averaging just 3.3 yards per carry and only had 63 yards on 19 carries. He did have a decent run, and a few catches... but this was his worst game of the year. And that's not a knock on Bell, that's just what Tampa has been able to do this year against the run.
Just looked at some of the sacks given up by Beechum. His new name should probably be beatum. The offensive line does not seem to be recovering quickly from stunts at all. They were spread with six guys on the line and two dropped in coverage and no body drops back to cut off the rush, they only thing they look like they are blocking on these plays is the quarter backs view.
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If you watched the game they showed Tomlin talking to Haley (not Haley talking to Tomlin) on the sideline. Tomlin clearly made the call. It was shown in more detail during Steelers Live with Tunch. There is no way that play works under those circumstances. I wish at times they'd let Ben just run the offense.
When a D puts 9 men in the box because they know you are going to run, you get stuffed. Or, at least, we get stuffed pretty much every time. That play had maybe a 10% chance of succeeding as a run to get the first down. It's a dumb play all around. Put Ben in the gun and let him read the field with the no huddle. Play to win not to "not lose". We have seen time and time again over the past several seasons that when we play to "not lose", we typically do just that and lose.
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