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Floyd vs Conor

Connor McGregor is going to shock the world and handily beat Mayweather this Saturday. Mayweather has no idea what's coming, he's never fought anyone that moves like this or fights like this. I've been following McGregor's camp the whole way through, watched all the training and sparring videos, interviews with those on the inside. The guy's had months now to focus on the single discipline of boxing and has perfected that element of his arsenal. He is an amazing athlete in the best shape of his life, has been going full 12 rounds sparring, working with professional refs including Hall of Famer Joe Cortez.

McGregor is a once in a lifetime fighter, a lot of people don't understand that. His fighting instincts and ability to read an opponent are second to none. Those who are dismissing this fight as a gimmick, or think Connor's in it for the money - or predict Mayweather is just going to show up and win - are in for a massive shock this Saturday.

It's been mind-numbing to listen to and watch boxing 'purists' who have no idea of McGregor's fighting skills dismiss his chances.

I'll go with McGregor's striking coach's predictions:

1. If Mayweather tries to go forward (like he's said he will) he's going to get killed. This thing will be over in a hurry, within the first round or two. McGregor will annihilate Floyd if he attempts to walk up on him.
2. I think we all know that's not going to happen, so if Mayweather fights the only style he knows, which is skip around, duck and defend blows, then try to outpoint Connor in the later rounds. Well, then it will go to around rounds 4-6 as Connor's will systematically break down Mayweather's defense and strike at the opportune time.

And many people will wake up on Sunday and not know what happened. The excuses will come hard and fast. Mayweather's age, the fact he's been out for two years, over-looked an opponent he thought couldn't box, didn't prepare as intensively as he usually does, should have stuck with the 10 ounce gloves, etc. Sadly, Connor won't get the credit he deserves. But he will have accomplished what he set out to do, and what he promised he will do. Like he always does. McGregor will put on a clinic in Vegas.
 
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Tibs said:
Connor McGregor is going to shock the world and handily beat Mayweather this Saturday. Mayweather has no idea what's coming, he's never fought anyone that moves like this or fights like this. I've been following McGregor's camp the whole way through, watched all the training and sparring videos, interviews with those on the inside. The guy's had months now to focus on the single discipline of boxing and has perfected that element of his arsenal. He is an amazing athlete in the best shape of his life, has been going full 12 rounds sparring, working with professional refs including Hall of Famer Joe Cortez.

McGregor is a once in a lifetime fighter, a lot of people don't understand that. His fighting instincts and ability to read an opponent are second to none. Those who are dismissing this fight as a gimmick, or think Connor's in it for the money - or predict Mayweather is just going to show up and win - are in for a massive shock this Saturday.

It's been mind-numbing to listen to and watch boxing 'purists' who have no idea of McGregor's fighting skills dismiss his chances.

I'll go with McGregor's striking coach's predictions:

1. If Mayweather tries to go forward (like he's said he will) he's going to get killed. This thing will be over in a hurry, within the first round or two. McGregor will annihilate Floyd if he attempts to walk up on him.
2. I think we all know that's not going to happen, so if Mayweather fights the only style he knows, which is skip around, duck and defend blows, then try to outpoint Connor in the later rounds. Well, then it will go to around rounds 4-6 as Connor's will systematically break down Mayweather's defense and strike at the opportune time.

And many people will wake up on Sunday and not know what happened. The excuses will come hard and fast. Mayweather's age, the fact he's been out for two years, over-looked an opponent he thought couldn't box, didn't prepare as intensively as he usually does, should have stuck with the 10 ounce gloves, etc. Sadly, Connor won't get the credit he deserves. But he will have accomplished what he set out to do, and what he promised he will do. Like he always does. McGregor will put on a clinic in Vegas.
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Once again, you are 180 degrees from the correct conclusion. Mayweather will take this idiot to school.
 
Once again? If you're speaking of the election, I predicted Trump would win, just didn't like it.

Are you going to watch the fight? I'd love to, but still debating coughing up the $$ for pay-per-view. Plus I can watch the highlights of McGregor knocking out Money Mayweather for free. It might not be a long fight, not sure it's worth the cash.
 
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Once again? If you're speaking of the election, I predicted Trump would win, just didn't like it.

Are you going to watch the fight? I'd love to, but still debating coughing up the $$ for pay-per-view. Plus I can watch the highlights of McGregor knocking out Money Mayweather for free. It might not be a long fight, not sure it's worth the cash.
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Yes I paid and will watch. We need some sort of bet here. Something board related.
 
CharlesDavenport said:
Yes I paid and will watch. We need some sort of bet here. Something board related.
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Sure we can have a friendly wager if something comes to mind. Look, as in all sports, anything can happen. I understand the 49-0 stuff. I understand Mayweather is a brilliant defensive tactician. All I'm saying McGregor is nothing like those 49 fighters Mayweather has faced thus far. He is a different animal. Those that dismiss him out of hand, saying he doesn't stand a chance, has never boxed, doesn't have the technique, etc. are in for a huge surprise. And yes, I'm also saying McGregor is going to hand Floyd his ***. Connor was right, they made a huge miscalculation taking this fight, they got greedy. And Mayweather and his camp will regret doing so. McGregor is a ******* beast. And I'm not talking about his hitting power only, that somehow he'd need to land a 1:1000 shot to win. I'm talking about his mental game, his intellect, his ability to read and break opponents down. His ability to move like a panther, counter punch, blows to the gloves and body. His unorthodox fighting stance, the fact he's a southpaw, his quick feet, his use of angles. All of these together will pose real issues for Mayweather. He just doesn't know it yet. Neither do you, it seems. ;)
 
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I am going to throw $10 on mcgregor for fun, but do not expect to win. Everytime i consider mcgregor has a chance i think about people floyd has fought. He has beaten younger stronger guys who were in their prime and been boxing their whole life. Floyd has basically fought the best and 95% of the time he looks like he barely broke a sweat after 12 rounds. Only chance i see is if mcgregor can walk through floyds punches, but i don't see floyd standing there trading with mcgregor .
 
Been re-watching a lot of Mayweather fights. I'm going to temper my prediction for McGregor pulling off the upset IF Mayweather stays calm, sits back and fights his usual defensive style. That will significantly reduce Connor's chances. The longer this thing goes on, the more frustrated Connor will get, and things could just drag on for 12 rounds in a decision for Mayweather. If Mayweather treats this like any of his previous fights, and is willing to stay patient and let McGregor come to him, it will be very difficult for Connor to win.

IF Mayweather does the opposite and comes out aggressive, tries to 'school' Connor and let's his emotions get the best of him, that's when Connor stands the best chance to do some damage. So that's what I'll be watching for early on (I bought the PPV today, yay!). Does Mayweather take on an aggressive stance and come after McGregor? That's not his M.O., and he could end up walking right into some big shots that could change the whole dynamic of this fight. If he sits back and is willing to let McGregor burn energy early and get increasingly frustrated doing so, that will go a long way to getting to 50-0.

On a side note, as this has bugging me listening to the talking heads, let's discuss the situation about the twelve 3 minute rounds in professional boxing vs. the five 5 minute rounds in MMA.

In boxing, that equals 36 minutes total boxing with 12 minutes of rest. In MMA it's 25 min fighting with 5 min rest. If you break that down, if a fight goes full rounds, boxers actually fight 24 minutes in the ring, MMA fighters for 20 minutes. That's only a 4 minute difference between the two sports. Given the full-contact nature of MMA, no doubt it takes a significantly larger toll on the body, given the elbows, kicks, knees, the grappling, wrestling etc that goes on. Boxers stand and jab and punch to the chest and head, that's it. So from an endurance point of view, there's no question you'd have to be in better shape to go five 5 minute rounds in MMA with 5 minutes rest, than box twelve 3 minute rounds with 12 minutes of rest. Just to put that notion to sleep, that McGregor's 'never gone 12 rounds in the ring' and somehow this will be a novelty for him.

At the end of the day it will boil down to how both fighters react to each other, and who can stick to their game plan. What I said about Mayweather is inversely true about Connor. Everyone's expecting Connor to come charging like a raging bull and wreak havoc early on. Surely that's what they're expecting of him in Mayweather's corner. Perhaps Connor should come out with less bravado and be patient early on. Perhaps he can frustrate Mayweather, who evidently wants to put on a show for fans. Everyone and their mother is expected Mayweather to win handily. If I'm Connor, I play into this and try to coax Mayweather to change his style, come forward and be more aggressive.

In summary, if Mayweather sticks to his tried and tested style and doesn't try to be the instigator and put on a show, the less chance McGregor is going to have. If Mayweather thinks he can come forward and take the fight to McGregor, then all bets are off. That's my take. Should be fun to watch. With these two nutjobs, I'm equally looking forward to the pre-fight press conference. Could go off the rails.
 
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Tibs said:
Been re-watching a lot of Mayweather fights. I'm going to temper my prediction for McGregor pulling off the upset IF Mayweather stays calm, sits back and fights his usual defensive style. That will significantly reduce Connor's chances. The longer this thing goes on, the more frustrated Connor will get, and things could just drag on for 12 rounds in a decision for Mayweather. If Mayweather treats this like any of his previous fights, and is willing to stay patient and let McGregor come to him, it will be very difficult for Connor to win.

IF Mayweather does the opposite and comes out aggressive, tries to 'school' Connor and let's his emotions get the best of him, that's when Connor stands the best chance to do some damage. So that's what I'll be watching for early on (I bought the PPV today, yay!). Does Mayweather take on an aggressive stance and come after McGregor? That's not his M.O., and he could end up walking right into some big shots that could change the whole dynamic of this fight. If he sits back and is willing to let McGregor burn energy early and get increasingly frustrated doing so, that will go a long way to getting to 50-0.

On a side note, as this has bugging me listening to the talking heads, let's discuss the situation about the twelve 3 minute rounds in professional boxing vs. the five 5 minute rounds in MMA.

In boxing, that equals 36 minutes total boxing with 12 minutes of rest. In MMA it's 25 min fighting with 5 min rest. If you break that down, if a fight goes full rounds, boxers actually fight 24 minutes in the ring, MMA fighters for 20 minutes. That's only a 4 minute difference between the two sports. Given the full-contact nature of MMA, no doubt it takes a significantly larger toll on the body, given the elbows, kicks, knees, the grappling, wrestling etc that goes on. Boxers stand and jab and punch to the chest and head, that's it. So from an endurance point of view, there's no question you'd have to be in better shape to go five 5 minute rounds in MMA with 5 minutes rest, than box twelve 3 minute rounds with 12 minutes of rest. Just to put that notion to sleep, that McGregor's 'never gone 12 rounds in the ring' and somehow this will be a novelty for him.

At the end of the day it will boil down to how both fighters react to each other, and who can stick to their game plan. What I said about Mayweather is inversely true about Connor. Everyone's expecting Connor to come charging like a raging bull and wreak havoc early on. Surely that's what they're expecting of him in Mayweather's corner. Perhaps Connor should come out with less bravado and be patient early on. Perhaps he can frustrate Mayweather, who evidently wants to put on a show for fans. Everyone and their mother is expected Mayweather to win handily. If I'm Connor, I play into this and try to coax Mayweather to change his style, come forward and be more aggressive.

In summary, if Mayweather sticks to his tried and tested style and doesn't try to be the instigator and put on a show, the less chance McGregor is going to have. If Mayweather thinks he can come forward and take the fight to McGregor, then all bets are off. That's my take. Should be fun to watch. With these two nutjobs, I'm equally looking forward to the pre-fight press conference. Could go off the rails.
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The bet will have to be that I have to put something in the sig that you author for one week, and vice versa when I win. One sentence.
 
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Also, I wrestled through HS, and boxed for two years, one while I was wrestling. Completely different exhaustion with boxing. Conor will not be able to keep his hands up after 4-5 rounds. Then he will get stopped. Thats why boxers hit the speed bag for endless rounds.
 
CharlesDavenport said:
Also, I wrestled through HS, and boxed for two years, one while I was wrestling. Completely different exhaustion with boxing. Conor will not be able to keep his hands up after 4-5 rounds. Then he will get stopped. Thats why boxers hit the speed bag for endless rounds.
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Boxing is a complete level of conditioning. A guy who used to run at the track I frequent went pro. He was clocking in 7 minute miles possibly even less. And he was going 3-4 miles a night.

I was impressed by his jogging/endurance speed
He was impressed by my sprinting speed lol.

A couple years ago he was on a fight card. Got to watch him. Haven't seen/heard from him since
 
CharlesDavenport said:
Also, I wrestled through HS, and boxed for two years, one while I was wrestling. Completely different exhaustion with boxing. Conor will not be able to keep his hands up after 4-5 rounds. Then he will get stopped. Thats why boxers hit the speed bag for endless rounds.
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Totally get this. Connor McGregor has trained incredibly hard doing cardio work besides all the strength, movement and of course boxing training. He's been holed up for weeks at the state-of-the-art UFC training center with the best trainers and equipment in the world. There are some videos out there on this, be it bicycling in the desert sun to high-altitude training. He is in peak physical condition, I have no doubt about that. If anything, I'd be more concerning with Mayweather seemingly taking it easy, munching on cheeseburgers, hanging out at the driving range, doing his usual Money Mayweather stuff. This will boil down to who's the better fighter in the ring, there won't be an issue concerning McGregor's endurance in this fight.
 
Holy ****, just saw this. LOL

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Conor McGregor brawls with Floyd Mayweather's entourage and squares up to Paulie Malignaggi at Vegas ceremony
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...ation-fight-a7907541.html?cmpid=facebook-post

The two men almost came to blows five days early when their respective entourages were involved in a bad-tempered fracas, before Malignaggi then squared up to McGregor

Floyd Mayweather and Conor McGregor became involved in a backstage brawl at Tuesday's Grand Arrival ceremony ahead of their fight this weekend, before Paulie Malignaggi then confronted the Irishman on an explosive afternoon in Las Vegas.

The Arrivals ceremony, held on the Toshiba Plaza outside the T-Mobile Arena, had been a relatively restrained affair until the brawl involving both Mayweather and McGregor’s entourages.

Badou Jack and Nathan Cleverly had both been introduced to the crowd, before Mayweather appeared on stage and was briefly interviewed.

He thanked his fans “across the world”, before again repeating that the fight was unlikely to go the distance. “I told you before that this isn’t going to go the distance,” he said. “So if you’re going to bet, bet that it won’t go.”

The trouble came when Mayweather and his huge entourage exited the stage, and passed McGregor’s camp, who were accompanying the Irishman to his interview.

Both entourages walked slowly towards one another, before there was a large melee, with several photographers and journalists finding themselves caught up in the fracas.
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Uh..ok. I guess I could post vidoes of Mayweather working out during his record 49-0 streak, but I'll let you McNuthuggers fantasize that Conor figured our something in the last six months that the best boxers and trainers in the world couldn't figure out over the last 10 years.
 
I only see McGregor winning by KO.
Mayweather will gas him all rounds if not
 
Tibs said:
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we used to get in a circle, laying down with feet pointed in to the center and hold our legs up six inches and coach would go around and throw a medicine ball on our stomaches, one after the other. For some reason this only happened the first practice of the year, but everyone would fart the first time. Boomfart, boomfart... Turned into an uncontrollable laugh-fart fest.
 
CharlesDavenport said:
Uh..ok. I guess I could post vidoes of Mayweather working out during his record 49-0 streak, but I'll let you McNuthuggers fantasize that Conor figured our something in the last six months that the best boxers and trainers in the world couldn't figure out over the last 10 years.
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I hear you man. Let's just make sure we frame this fight in its proper context. If McGregor somehow beats Mayweather it will go down as the biggest upset in all of sports history, correct? A fighter who's never stepped in the ring as a professional boxer beating arguably the best boxer ever, in his weight class? 0-0 beating 49-0? Are you kidding? Bigger than USA beating Russia in Olympic ice hockey, are we in that territory? I think we are. Just to make sure we're all on the same page here.

 
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I hear you man. Let's just make sure we frame this fight in its proper context. If McGregor somehow beats Mayweather it will go down as the biggest upset in all of sports history, correct? A fighter who's never stepped in the ring as a professional boxer beating arguably the best boxer ever, in his weight class? 0-0 beating 49-0? Are you kidding? Bigger than USA beating Russia in Olympic ice hockey, are we in that territory? I think we are. Just to make sure we're all on the same page here.

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It would be monumental no doubt. If McGregor wins. Congrats to the guy. I'll be happy to have seen something like it
 
CharlesDavenport said:
Yes.
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Look, I've followed McGregor throughout his MMA career, got drawn in to his incredible fighting skills, unparalleled work ethic, larger than life persona. This sob was collecting welfare checks back in Ireland a short four years ago. He marched through the MMA, took down the biggest names, currently holds two championship belts in two weight classes. At the minimum, I would expect him to receive more respect from sports fans. You can hate him for his brash, in-your-face personality. But he's not simply a trash talker. He's put in the work and backed it up, every step of the way. That's why I support the man, his journey, his legacy. He is now taking on arguably the best boxer on the planet. What does he do? Goes ******* ballistic in the pre-fight build up. Calls out Mayweather to his face, destroys him on stage in front of tens of thousands. Goes right after the CEO of Showtime for perceived slights. McGregor is proving no stage is too big for a working class poor boy from Dublin. I think it's off the charts how ******* nuts he is. He really doesn't give a ****. I love it, and I hope he makes history on Saturday. Will he yet again back up his trash talk? We shall see.

 
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If Conor makes it all 12 rounds, I will consider it a loss to Tibs and put whatever sig he wants on my profile. One sentence.
 
BTW I would have more respect for that guy as a fighter if he had defended a title at least once. That said, I massively respect his ability to generate money in the MMA game by tagging on to Mayweather. I think it makes a joke of the UFC ranking system, and ***** all the guys trying be champions in the UFC.
 
Along the lines of UFC rankings being a joke, Jon Jones just failed his drug test. Likely will be stripped of his belt, making Cormier the champ again. The guy who cried like a five year old after he lost. ****.
 
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