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steelcan58 said:
100%. There's a few promising players but not a single one I'd call a building block. And with this coaching staff don't count on any development.

This is as bad as I can recall in my 50+ years following the Steelers.
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I remember '85,'86,'87 and '88. They were pretty bad. What made it worse was you still remembered the glory days not to many years before. We are pretty far away from any glory days now.

The thing is, in the NFL you can turn things around pretty quickly. That is what really stings now. We know this coach can't do that.
 
Steelr4evr said:
The owner is content with what his team accomplished a long time ago. He's also content with the culture that was built being completely gone,it's ashes.


The seats are sold out,so who cares? Did he enjoy the"Go Pack Go" in the 4th quarter?

I wish Dan was alive.
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Idk. It's Dan's rule.
 
Drink IRON City said:
We all seem to know where that 2-game lead will get us……. Advantages of Groundhog Day…………



Salute the nation
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It’s sad that the bad losses have become so frequent. I used to listen to 93.7 The Fan all day after one, it was cathartic, then by Tuesday or Wednesday I’d start getting fired up for the rebound, and it usually came.

Not anymore. I expect Indy and LA to thrash this team because they literally have no fixes for this defense. If/when ARod or DK misses a few games, it will get even worse.
 
Thank you DIC for sharing the video of what it means to be a Steeler fan. As one of the seasoned members here I remember the days of Buddy Parker and Bill Austin. Chuck Noll along with Bill Nunn took this team out of the ashes and dominated the 70's with 4 championships. Those draft picks built the dynasty, many of them in the HOF. Disgrace that LC isn't there.

Cowher took over and continued the Steeler way, building his team in a similar fashion.

Tomlin took over a championship caliber team and did squeeze out a Lombardi with it (think about it) then went on to coach a .500 team since then.

Mr. Rooney, I understand the ideals of a social, progressive, DEI hire brought forth by a rule with the Rooney name on it, but the goal of any team is to win championships, not participation trophies. It's time, and the transition maybe painful, but the next Chuck Noll is out there, find him.
 
ZonaBurgh said:
Thank you DIC for sharing the video of what it means to be a Steeler fan. As one of the seasoned members here I remember the days of Buddy Parker and Bill Austin. Chuck Noll along with Bill Nunn took this team out of the ashes and dominated the 70's with 4 championships. Those draft picks built the dynasty, many of them in the HOF. Disgrace that LC isn't there.

Cowher took over and continued the Steeler way, building his team in a similar fashion.

Tomlin took over a championship caliber team and did squeeze out a Lombardi with it (think about it) then went on to coach a .500 team since then.

Mr. Rooney, I understand the ideals of a social, progressive, DEI hire brought forth by a rule with the Rooney name on it, but the goal of any team is to win championships, not participation trophies. It's time, and the transition maybe painful, but the next Chuck Noll is out there, find him.
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L.C. Greenwood has made the next cut of senior players this year. I'm hoping this is finally his year. He should have went in 5 years after he retired.


I'll make a trip to Canton if he goes. I didn't get to see any of the other guys go,so it would be cool. I'll go for Big Ben as well when he goes.
 
diver said:
I remember '85,'86,'87 and '88. They were pretty bad. What made it worse was you still remembered the glory days not to many years before. We are pretty far away from any glory days now.

The thing is, in the NFL you can turn things around pretty quickly. That is what really stings now. We know this coach can't do that.
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Those were pretty awful years. I think Noll waited too long transitioning from a dynasty. Not sure what Tomlin is transitioning from. No playoff wins in 9 years and counting.
 
steelcan58 said:
Those were pretty awful years. I think Noll waited too long transitioning from a dynasty. Not sure what Tomlin is transitioning from. No playoff wins in 9 years and counting.
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He was drafting some good players in the process of those bad seasons.Lloyd,Woodson, Dawson..ect. At some point you have to drop down a.little to rebuild.

This hire mercenaries at the tail end of their career just so you can win a couple more games before you crash is bullshit.
 
diver said:
I remember '85,'86,'87 and '88. They were pretty bad. What made it worse was you still remembered the glory days not to many years before. We are pretty far away from any glory days now.

The thing is, in the NFL you can turn things around pretty quickly. That is what really stings now. We know this coach can't do that.
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Yes, coaching absolutely helps but I would offer a franchise quarterback is a necessity in the NFL
 
steelcan58 said:
Those were pretty awful years. I think Noll waited too long transitioning from a dynasty. Not sure what Tomlin is transitioning from. No playoff wins in 9 years and counting.
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From my recollection, dancing around in my old cranium.
I believe years of below standard drafting was the biggest reason for the 80s demise from the championship level teams of the 70s..
And of course, a huge part of that was not drafting a young man right in their own backyard to play quarterback in 1980.
 
steel dino said:
From my recollection, dancing around in my old cranium.
I believe years of below standard drafting was the biggest reason for the 80s demise from the championship level teams of the 70s..
And of course, a huge part of that was not drafting a young man right in their own backyard to play quarterback in 1980.
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Well Bubby got us win in '89

 
Lunar said:
But sticking it to Jerry Glanville was so awesome.
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Oh yeah always! I've been told by all the Tomlin homers that he shouldn't be expected to win a playoff game with the QB's he has had. Hmmmm Bubby and Malone won playoff games, LOL
 
steel dino said:
Yes, coaching absolutely helps but I would offer a franchise quarterback is a necessity in the NFL
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Guys like Darnold, Danny Dimes, Mac Jones and Baker Mayfield were all supposed to be franchise guys coming out. They went to **** organizations and ****** coaching situations and failed. Now all of them seem to be flourishing under good coaching.

Seems coaching can play a huge part in defining bust or franchise guy…so while a solid/good QB is essential poor coaching will prohibit any potential franchise guy from actually playing to his talent level.

We’ve seen a lot of this in the league recently.

Unfortunately we lack a developer of talent.
 
steel dino said:
From my recollection, dancing around in my old cranium.
I believe years of below standard drafting was the biggest reason for the 80s demise from the championship level teams of the 70s..
And of course, a huge part of that was not drafting a young man right in their own backyard to play quarterback in 1980.
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The stars got old and retired. They had been drafting late for a long time. Which is the punishment for success.

Cowher came at the perfect time to take over a team that had talent, but needed some new energy.

And Cowher is a Pittsburgher who carried that torch well.
 
Fiji Mariner said:
Guys like Darnold, Danny Dimes, Mac Jones and Baker Mayfield were all supposed to be franchise guys coming out. They went to **** organizations and ****** coaching situations and failed. Now all of them seem to be flourishing under good coaching.

Seems coaching can play a huge part in defining bust or franchise guy…so while a solid/good QB is essential poor coaching will prohibit any potential franchise guy from actually playing to his talent level.

We’ve seen a lot of this in the league recently.

Unfortunately we lack a developer of talent.
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I'd be happy if they could just teach how to block and tackle correctly.
 
steelcan58 said:
Those were pretty awful years. I think Noll waited too long transitioning from a dynasty. Not sure what Tomlin is transitioning from. No playoff wins in 9 years and counting.
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Noll won playoff games in his 10 (80’s) years of transition………….

tomlin had a 1st ballot HOF ROETHLISBERGER the majority of his time here.

I know you weren’t but there is NO comparison from Noll to the Tom Lin.



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Every stretch of Chuck Noll’s career is greater than Mike Tomlin’s.

Could you imagine Tomlin coaching in Chuck’s era of toughness and grit, instead of his current soft / undisciplined era.




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Drink IRON City said:
Noll won playoff games in his 10 (80’s) years of transition………….

tomlin had a 1st ballot HOF ROETHLISBERGER the majority of his time here.

I know you weren’t but there is NO comparison from Noll to the Tom Lin.



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They're not even on the same planet. Noll&staff turned a team that had never won anything and built the greatest football team ever assembled.

Cowher and Tomlin just got to steer that ship after it was built.

Now it's sitting on the bottom of the ocean.
 
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