True... And if my dog could **** gold coins I wouldn't have to go to work in the morning. You don't think it would have been better for them to say ..." The best way to avoid contracting HIV is to practice abstinence or monogamy. But we live in the real world and understand that people aren't always going to do that, so if you are sexually active please use a condom." Instead of ... " the invisible man that lives in the sky said sex is bad so just don't do it...."
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True... And if my dog could **** gold coins I wouldn't have to go to work in the morning. You don't think it would have been better for them to say ..." The best way to avoid contracting HIV is to practice abstinence or monogamy. But we live in the real world and understand that people aren't always going to do that, so if you are sexually active please use a condom." Instead of ... " the invisible man that lives in the sky said sex is bad so just don't do it...."
Also in third world countries the birthrate is much higher BECAUSE the standard of living is low and social services and retirement income are non-existent. Infant mortality is high because people need to have a mess of kids so that one or two of them live to adulthood to take care of mom and dad. They don't **** just for the fun of it. The higher the standard of living, the lower the birthrate and the more contraception is used. Look it up.
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Based on their population growth, they're covering any mortality issues (baby, child, teen, mother) just fine.
But that's the logic of Western aid programs. We go into a third world region, drastically impact mortality issues for the better, but don't bother to teach responsible birth control methods or family planning.
So the next generation is just light years ahead of infrastructure and food manufacturing capabilities. So we have a whole new generation of babies and kids and teens that are malnourished, without water and little to no medical care for us to "save".
It's a perpetual cycle.
But that's the logic of Western aid programs. We go into a third world region, drastically impact mortality issues for the better, but don't bother to teach responsible birth control methods or family planning.
So the next generation is just light years ahead of infrastructure and food manufacturing capabilities. So we have a whole new generation of babies and kids and teens that are malnourished, without water and little to no medical care for us to "save".
It's a perpetual cycle.
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The point is, you either care about what the invisible man in the sky says or you don't. If you do, you stay in a monogamous relationship. If you don't, go ahead and use all the condoms you want. If you're going to sin, using condoms is the smaller sin than sleeping around with a whole bunch of people.
You obviously don't understand the situation in African anyway. Christian or not, getting men to use condoms there is difficult. It's a cultural issue...like most people, they don't use them because they don't want to, not because the church says don't do it.
Not to mention, that promoting condom use hasn't actually worked to stop the spread of AIDS:
http://www.crisismagazine.com/2006/why-condoms-will-never-stop-aids-in-africa
In the November 27, 2004, issue of the prestigious British medical journal The Lancet, more than 150 of the world’s leading AIDS scientists and other experts in AIDS prevention and treatment signed a statement in which they declared that "the time has come for common ground" on preventing HIV/AIDS. Of the three interventions scientifically shown to prevent AIDS-abstinence, being faithful, and using condoms-they argue that the use of condoms clearly comes last and should be promoted as a first-line defense only to those in extremely high-risk groups, such as commercial sex workers.
"Fortunately, we can now move beyond debating how well condom promotion might work to examining how well it has worked," says Dr. Norman Hearst, a family and community medicine professor at the University of California, San Francisco.
The overwhelming conclusion is in: "So far, there’s no good evidence that condoms will reverse population-wide epidemics like those in sub-Saharan Africa," Dr. Green notes.
The UN estimates that 37 percent of 16-year-olds in Mozambique will die of AIDS before age 30. Faced with such horror, Dr. Green says, "It’s simply not appropriate or effective to offer a 15-year-old girl in Africa the same AIDS-prevention message we give to a 50-year-old gay man or injecting drug user in Baltimore. Contrary to Western stereotypes about African sexual behavior, most 15-year-old African girls are not yet sexually active."
More Condoms = More AIDS?
Condoms have failed spectacularly. Indeed, contrary to expectations, countries with the most condoms per man tend to have the highest HIV rates.
In South Africa, which has strongly promoted condoms as the best way to prevent AIDS, the number of free condoms distributed to the public rose rapidly between 1994 and 1998, from 6 million to 198 million. Including those sold, the total number of condoms distributed in South Africa during 1998 was nearly 210 million, according to an October 20, 2001, article in the British Medical Journal. Did this giant increase curb the pandemic? On the contrary: Statistics released by South Africa’s government in 2005 revealed that death rates skyrocketed from an average of 870 deaths a day in 1997 to 1,370 deaths a day in 2002-a 57 percent increase. Deaths of individuals ages 15 to 49 (when people are most sexually active) more than doubled, the New York Times reported.
But there is more bad news:
In Botswana, condom sales rose from 1 million to 3 million between 1993 and 2001. Meanwhile, HIV prevalence among urban pregnant women rose from 27 percent to 45 percent.
During the same period in Cameroon, condom sales increased from 6 million to 15 million, while HIV prevalence rose from 3 percent to 9 percent, Dr. Hearst and Sanny Chen reported in the March 2004 Studies in Family Planning.
In Zimbabwe, which Dr. Green notes "has one of the highest condom user rates in Africa," infection rates were so high by 2002 that UNAIDS experts noted that if present trends continue, by 2020 the country will have lost 30 percent of its work force to AIDS-related
Sam Kinison nailed it years ago.
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