Game Balls, Game Goats & FU's...........week 1 @ J-E-T-S.....JETS, JETS, JETS!

[NoKap#7]

Unless they play teams better at stopping the run than the Steelers who've been gashed since last season (remember the Rats running for 299?).

The Bills looked bad yesterday vs Henry and Lamar, but the Steeler DL got embarrassed by Hall and Fields.
Yesterday was a sign, again, that most of the NFL has better run D than the Steelers.

You could look it up:

https://www.nfl.com/stats/team-stats/defense/rushing/2025/reg/all

I've been saying that Teryl Austin needs to go. Hes being given the benefit of the doubt for yesterday since Harmon was out and they had some injuries, but I've also said this multiple times....I can't really think of a team thats drafted worse then the Steelers the last 10-15 years. I mean its ridiculously bad both offense and defense, but especially up front. Im not giving Khan or Weidl credit for anything other than bringing in well established talent. As far as im concerned Khan and Weidl havent proved anything through the draft. They better hope Harmon is the equivalent of a Jalen Carter or Dexter Lawrence.

 

[DesertSteel]

The hell you say. He played pretty damn well and despite the scorekeepers shenanigans he did have a sack. He absolutely crushed Fields in the second half, not his fault they ruled it a run play despite the fact he had even moved a step yet. Faked to the RB then got just demolished by TJ.

He is not playing like a $40M a year player. And TJ is my favorite player. But right now he's got warning track power.

 

[bigben]

Sadly, it looks like an LCL injury. It's why he could walk on it, then as he approached the tent he pushed laterally and limped again. I don't expect good news here.

For the money we paid Heyward, I expected more out of him today. Fortunately, he got a timely batted ball that was nearly intercepted, this is something Heyward always excelled at.

For as much as this page HATED DJ for his drops, DK, our highest paid offensive player, dropped 3 balls today. One bounced off his own payer and landed back on his stomach on the ground, but he has to be better.

Jones looked slow and confused. I am not looking forward to his matchup against Garrett.

Jalen Ramsey is a STEELER. He plays with intensity, passion, and has a high football IQ. Great job drawing the penalty at the end of the half to make sure they couldn't get a late score. Drew a penalty on an aggressive play that I don't think should have been called. Had a good pass defensed followed by a slobberknocker of a hit at the end of the game. Fields had an excellent game, and threw a great ball to convert a 1st down, until Ramsey separated him from the ball. This is what I haven't seen out of Fitz in the past 2 1/2 yrs, this is why we made out on that trade, and with Elliot probably missing time, expect Jalen to play more safety moving forward.

Again, The Tomlin haters saying he sucks without understanding what he does. Excellent time management at the end of the half to get a TD late, though we did call the TO WAY early at 37sec, when it should have run under 20 before it was called. At the end of the game, we scored again under 2 minutes to take the lead, and if you noticed the game scenario at the time on 3rd down. If we got a 1st down, the game was over, we salt the game and kick the winner with boz in the 30yd range. It looked like PI to me, but from what I've seen out of Tomlin's consistency as a coach, if he can win the game on offense with a 1st down, he ALWAYS goes for it, and that's why he's a consistent winner in tight games.

Skrow was excellent on ST and O today making plays.

I assume both our running game and run D will improve, today was terrible, but this is the first game of the season, and the first game time most of our starters have gotten this year. We will get better.

Considering the Run defense and running game has never been worse, how could they not improve??

Past 2 games they have allowed an avg of 240 yds rushing. Over a 17 game season that is more rushing yards than Barkley AND Henry in 2024 Combined.
No other team has ever given up more rush yards in consecutive games. More historic numbers from Cam's defense.

Running game looks worse than Matt Canada's run game. Warren looks worse than he ever did before Arthur Smith took over. Last year too.

So to recap, both lines are in shambles, D-line is failing to stop the run at an unprecedented level.
O-line cannot run block and Rodgers won't last half the season taking sacks like that.

Interesting time to waive the Tomlin flag and call out the "Tomlin haters"

Did you watch the game? If it wasn't for Rodgers and Ramsey, we lose that game big.

Tomlin served up a hot pile of garbage on both side of the ball as usual, and was saved by a veteran HOF QB Magic.
Mike's made a career of doing just that, its the only thing he's done consistently.

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

Jalens antics. I really could do without. I know he has some skills. Gimme a ryan clark type.

 

[stillwright]

Rather the have issues now and have time to fix them, than having them appear late in the season like last year. WE will have growing pains on both lines for a while. Particularly until Black gets comfortable and Harmon gets back and comfortable. Then Cam can play less and be fresher and Loudermilk can stay off the field. Hopefully move Benton out to end more with Black in. Wilson and Queen need those guys to eat up blocks.

A shame Harmon got hurt.

 

[stillwright]

no he faked it and kept the ball. Watt got a TFL but not a sack. WTF. Otherwise, he would have been flagged for sure.

Same thing happened the year he tied the sack record....but they gave Straham a sack when Farve fell down in front of him.

 

[bigben]

Triggered Lloyd? This blanket statement of Tomlin sucks at clock management is flat out wrong. Did you see the clock management by the JETS? They were using Timeouts for us. Twice in fact when they didn't have to in situations that benefited us. But you'd rather troll and call names than provide football acumen, so it's nice to see you haven't changed since I've been gone.

You missed a lot of KP's wins in 2min drill. This team correctly practices the 2min drill like it's the most important thing to run on O, and it shows. Our team HAS been terrible at engineering TDs, yet we still win. Wonder why that is? Keeping TOs to a minimum and excellent clock management. That's coaching my friend.

I love how haters want to call him a terrible clock manager with ZERO examples. Sure he's not 100% perfect, but he's one of the best I've ever seen at situational football. It's why the Steelers are the top team at winning 1 score games over the past decade, and that included an aging Ben, KP, Trubisky, Duck, Rudolph, Wilson, Fields, and now Rogers. So either Tomlin is the luckiest coach ever in NFL history, or maybe, just maybe he knows what he's doing to win us close games?

Luckiest coach in NFL History. And its Not close

What other coach had had a superbowl winning QB for all but 2 of 19 seasons??
What other coach has had 3 superbowl winning QB's, two first ballot HOF QB's

What other coaches had the LUCK of that stable of QB's to cover their a** for their entire career?
What other coach in history had a HOF QB on the field with the #1 RB AND the #1 WR in the league? (Killer Bees) For multiple seasons!

Name 1 other coach

You have ZERO examples

 

[NoKap#7]

Luckiest coach in NFL History. And its Not close

What other coach had had a superbowl winning QB for all but 2 of 19 seasons??
What other coach has had 3 superbowl winning QB's, two first ballot HOF QB's

What other coaches had the LUCK of that stable of QB's to cover their a** for their entire career?
What other coach in history had a HOF QB on the field with the #1 RB AND the #1 WR in the league? (Killer Bees) For multiple seasons!

Name 1 other coach

You have ZERO examples

I dont know what kind of stupidity you're trying to push but you fall flat in making your point. His success is not luck or coincidence if it's consistent and he's been consistent in winning since he started here regardless of who has been at the QB position.

If you have coached as long as Tomlin has theres a good chance you've had a chance to coach a HOF or two, but you should have mentioned only one was in his prime when he coached him. Besides that multiple coaches have coached the same HOF QB double digit years

Bill Belichick/Tom Brady
Sean Payton/Drew Brees
Mike McCarthy/Aaron Rodgers
Paul Brown/Otto Graham
Tom Laundry/Roger Staubach
Bill Walsh/Joe Montana
Chuck Knoll/Terry Bradshaw
Don Shula/Dan Marino

Pretty much no coach has been able to build his legacy without a HOF Qb or at least a franchise QB to cover his ssa as you say.
Donovan McNabb isnt a HOF (yet), but Pat Mahomes most definitely is so thats two pretty good QBs that Andy Reid has had the luxury of coaching. If Im not mistaken Bruce Arians had the luxury of coaching Andrew Luck, Carson Palmer, and Tom Brady.

Bill Walsh also coached Steve Young and Ken Stabler. Shula also coached Bob Griese and Johnny Unitas

As far as Dynamic Trios

Bill Walsh had Joe Montana, Jerry Rice and Roger Craig

Jimmy Johnson had Aikman, Smith and Irvin.

Besides that The Triple Bees only played three full seasons together. Stop trying to be deceptive and act like they played a lifetime together and all three only played in one playoff game together due to injury...

We could go on and on, but you're just
LOUD AND FLAT OUT WRONG with every stance you've taken in your post and I just proved it!

Not only that but theres a few coaches who have missed out on SBs with HOF or at least premier players at QBs WRs RBs on the same team (i.e. Marv Levy). Look at all the teams that missed out in the AFC because of Brady/Belichick.

You thought you ate with your post. You didn't!! Too bad your even less informed cronies decided to upvote you b4 they checked for themselves. I guess the blind lead the blind. I wish I had swampland to sale to everyone of you.

 

[black and gold apex]

Back to game ball

GB OC Smith we saw plenty different on the offense yesterday, that looked promising.
GB team effort, not pretty but we did not give up
GB the Boz cool hand Luke
Goats none, first game against new team system, not playing preseason givem a break.

FU to me I have been a true fan since 63 I lost it on comments against Tomlin, defense, Heyward and other things. Being a fan I want twenty yard passes, ten yard runs, every tackle, every sack, does not work that way especially for the Steelers. I apologize to the group way out of line.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Back to game ball

GB OC Smith we saw plenty different on the offense yesterday, that looked promising.
GB team effort, not pretty but we did not give up
GB the Boz cool hand Luke
Goats none, first game against new team system, not playing preseason givem a break.

FU to me I have been a true fan since 63 I lost it on comments against Tomlin, defense, Heyward and other things. Being a fan I want twenty yard passes, ten yard runs, every tackle, every sack, does not work that way especially for the Steelers. I apologize to the group way out of line.

You have nothing to apologize for, fans can rant and rave in the same sentence.



Salute the nation

 

[Avoid_Lloyd]

Triggered Lloyd? This blanket statement of Tomlin sucks at clock management is flat out wrong. Did you see the clock management by the JETS? They were using Timeouts for us. Twice in fact when they didn't have to in situations that benefited us. But you'd rather troll and call names than provide football acumen, so it's nice to see you haven't changed since I've been gone.

You missed a lot of KP's wins in 2min drill. This team correctly practices the 2min drill like it's the most important thing to run on O, and it shows. Our team HAS been terrible at engineering TDs, yet we still win. Wonder why that is? Keeping TOs to a minimum and excellent clock management. That's coaching my friend.

I love how haters want to call him a terrible clock manager with ZERO examples. Sure he's not 100% perfect, but he's one of the best I've ever seen at situational football. It's why the Steelers are the top team at winning 1 score games over the past decade, and that included an aging Ben, KP, Trubisky, Duck, Rudolph, Wilson, Fields, and now Rogers. So either Tomlin is the luckiest coach ever in NFL history, or maybe, just maybe he knows what he's doing to win us close games?

Tomlins past 8 seasons are failures, *** hat

This fandom is fed up being called “haters” for criticizing a coach who hasn’t sniffed a playoff win in 8 years, the tide has turned against apologists like you, just look around moron…you use that word you deserve all the name calling coming to you

Only Tomlin jizz guzzlers like you would try to argue he has a good record in close games is admirable while ignoring his past 8 years of playoff futility, these are the Steelers-no once gives 2 ***** about his record in close games-they care about post season success over the last 8 years-except for Tomlin nut huggers like you

Since you’ve been gone? All you do is pop in here asking for people to go to your garbage podcast. I’m not Lloyd, you’d know that if you ever came here to do any real posting besides pimping your trash.

Good luck advertising your trash podcast somewhere with 90% of the posters who wanted him fired after last year-and you just called us all “Tomlin haters” TWICE in the same thread, I think we will pass on your garbage

Count on me to repost you calling us “haters” right below you pimping your podcast here all season

 

[ZonaBurgh]

But they weren't playing from.behind most of the game. The Jets played from.behind just as much and had all the turnovers. I dont get what youre saying that the steelers should have lost. You play mistake free you should win.

They trailed at the end of each of the first 3 quarters and were down by 11 going into the fourth. While I don't have the statistics in front of me, I'd bet the percentage of teams winning with a 10 + point lead in the fourth is pretty high. There was only 1:03 left when Boz came through with that 60 yarder. A lot of things bounced the Steelers way in the 4th to get the W. You don't have to get what I'm saying, this is a message board with shared opinions, and mine is that the Jets choaked grabbing defeat from the hands of victory.

 

[NoKap#7]

They trailed at the end of each of the first 3 quarters and were down by 11 going into the fourth. While I don't have the statistics in front of me, I'd bet the percentage of teams winning with a 10 + point lead in the fourth is pretty high. There was only 1:03 left when Boz came through with that 60 yarder. A lot of things bounced the Steelers way in the 4th to get the W. You don't have to get what I'm saying, this is a message board with shared opinions, and mine is that the Jets choaked grabbing defeat from the hands of victory.

7 lead changes with 4 in the Steelers favor
At most you would be talking about a handful of minutes the Jets had the lead if any and if you dont know the stats why bring it up?? You just acknowledged you're speculating at best so i dont need to get what you're saying since your point is pretty much moot and I dont recall there ever being more then a 1 possession lead difference between either of the teams ...aside from that who really cares??? You act like the Steelers werent at all competitive...its a 60 min game. Ask bills fans if they care how long the Ravens had the lead yesterday. They would tell you to go shove your stats where the sun doesn't shine and might just slap the taste out your mouth as added incentive not to approach them with the bs again.

 

[jitter77]

Gameballs - Rodgers, Boz, CAIII, Skow
I can't give anyone on the D a gameball.
Goats - Jones, Benton
FUs - Heyward for being a big baby then not playing well.

 

[NoKap#7]

Gameballs - Rodgers, Boz, CAIII, Skow
I can't give anyone on the D a gameball.
Goats - Jones, Benton
FUs - Heyward for being a big baby then not playing well.

His little brother needs to be added to that list for making zero contribution but yet trying to sabotage their efforts to win with a dumb penalty.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

My new background photo on FB.
Four touchdowns in a single game. I knew someone was going to do this.

 

[Shane Falco]

I've been chewing on what I've watched yesterday.
For Me
Game Balls, Rodgers, Metcalf, OC Smith, Ramsey and Boz.
Goats-Coach Mike Tomlin, Teryl Austin and anyone that has anything to do with defensive coaching including Coach Dunbar.
Incomplete-The Offensive Line and I will get to that in a moment.
Cap Tip-to the Jets Justin Fields and Aaron Glenn. Coach Glenn is trying to institute toughness and trust in his players that we have once taken pride in. It's a shame it's not as embraced in the Stillers and much as HCMT claims.

I am giving the OL an incomplete due to Seumalo being back for the first time with Jones with no reps during the preseason. There is communication that they need to work out together. I did see positives with Jones as much as I saw things that made me scratch my head. It's the first game and I'm not ready to hit the panic button yet. The rest of the OL did get beat as well, even Fautanu. The upside, they have this on film and they can work on it. Bad thing, so does everyone else.

One more thing on Broderick Jones. I do find HCMT guilty of gross negligence of his development at left tackle. His obsession with Mediocre Dan Moore while wasting your time with your first round talent on the wrong side should piss anyone off. The Steelers traded up to get him. This would be the second consecutive first round pick in a row he completely wasted and not to reaching for Edmunds and Devin Bush...

 

[SteelerFan448]

D can definitely make plays, but if you start making excuses for DK, you might not know that he has drop problems for his career.

DK's one drop was atrocious and he made up for it right after. The DBs made a play on the ball the other ones.

 

[ZonaBurgh]

7 lead changes with 4 in the Steelers favor
At most you would be talking about a handful of minutes the Jets had the lead if any and if you dont know the stats why bring it up?? You just acknowledged you're speculating at best so i dont need to get what you're saying since your point is pretty much moot and I dont recall there ever being more then a 1 possession lead difference between either of the teams ...aside from that who really cares??? You act like the Steelers werent at all competitive...its a 60 min game. Ask bills fans if they care how long the Ravens had the lead yesterday. They would tell you to go shove your stats where the sun doesn't shine and might just slap the taste out your mouth as added incentive not to approach them with the bs again.

OK. you're right if it's that important to you, arguing with strangers on the internet.

 

[NoKap#7]

OK. you're right if it's that important to you, arguing with strangers on the internet.

Butthurt comment if I ever saw one. Cut down on the estrogen injections maybe??

 

[BLITZ]

Maybe they should try BJ at Center. maybe that is his real natural position. then guard.

 

[topseed]

Happens all the time with teams around the league. Most of these games are going to come down to a 1 possession win/loss because of the parody. Look at the scores from around the league including the Sunday night game. If you're going to be critical of Tomlin in the losses give him his flowers in the wins also. Its ok to take one day off from being a constant hater. The only thing I can give you credit for is at least you acknowledge youre a hater.

Game-winning 60-yard field goals happen all the time around the league? Is that so? I'll have to start watching more closely, then.

I'm not a Tomlin hater...I just call it like I see it. But, sometimes I do believe that Tomlin acts like a parody of a real NFL head coach.

 

[topseed]

1) watt may not have been assigned to Fields on that play. It may have been a blown assignment by a LB for all you know.

2) There's something that needs to be said about player IQ. I was watching the Chargers/Chiefs play the other night and the Chargers are trying to run out the clock with less than 2 minutes left in the game. The rb gets the ball and runs it out of bounds and im thinking to myself from the comfort of my couch who has never played a day of organized football in my life "why in the world would he run out of bounds???". Tell me, why would a coach have to tell you that???

The same can be said about Watt in this situation. Let's assume he was assigned to Fields...where does his football IQ kick in to not allow a running QB to roll to the edge on a bootleg?

1) For all I know, I want one of the league's best defensive players out there defending the edge on a bootleg.
2) A rookie mistake by a Chargers running back has absolutely nothing to do with this situation. The same cannot be said. TJ was clearly not assigned to Fields. Stevie Wonder could see that.

 

[NoKap#7]

Game-winning 60-yard field goals happen all the time around the league? Is that so? I'll have to start watching more closely, then.

I'm not a Tomlin hater...I just call it like I see it. But, sometimes I do believe that Tomlin acts like a parody of a real NFL head coach.

Maybe reading and comprehension isnt your strongsuit. I said specifically a lot of these games are going to come down to one possession games. What difference does it make what it looks like?? What part of that dont you understand??

 

[NoKap#7]

1) For all I know, I want one of the league's best defensive players out there defending the edge on a bootleg.
2) A rookie mistake by a Chargers running back has absolutely nothing to do with this situation. The same cannot be said. TJ was clearly not assigned to Fields. Stevie Wonder could see that.

yeah, you definitely have reading and comprehension skills. The purpose of my bringing up the San Diego rookie was to point out the fact that football IQ has to play a part in how these players react in pressure situations, and that some things should be blatantly obvious w/o having to have a coach in your ear to tell you about it beforehand.

That being said if he wasnt assigned that either means they thought the bootleg would go away from Watt or somebody blew their assignment on his side of the ball, otherwise maybe you can fill us in on what the defensive play call was and who was responsible for who??