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Good and bad about Tomlin

Djfan

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You hear a lot about his love/ hate amongst the faithful. So, let's hear it.

What do you dislike about him? What do you like about him? Keep him? Fire him? Adjust his role?

Fire off now.
 
I have always hated someone that try's to use words and phrases to project intellect. And Mike Tomlin is the King Kahuna of that.

Tomlinisim's aside, Mikey T has been the most predictable coach in the NFL for years, and can't make in game adjustments according to what the other team is doing to save his life. For the love of god the guy has been in the league how many years and still botches time management and challenges for Christ's sake.

I welcome the day when we wake up to the news that someone else has taken the helm.

I fear however that will not be any time soon.
 
That he is apparently satisfied with the offense in any aspect the last few years, especially this year when it looks 10x worse than what it had been is enough to question anything else he does related to football.
 
my problem with MT is that he does live in his fears and puts himself above the team. what I mean by this is he will not hire competent asst coaches to lead the offense or defense for fear of it showing his weakness which leads to him putting himself above the team and winning.

A good leader is not afraid to let others succeed or get the credit
 
One of my biggest things is he has done so little with so much. Arguably the most overall talented team the last 10 years in the NFL and the ONLY thing
to show for it is "a non-losing season"

I have a lot more but I'm sure others will touch on them.


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Drink IRON City said:
One of my biggest things is he has done so little with so much. Arguably the most overall talented team the last 10 years in the NFL and the ONLY thing
to show for it is "a non-losing season"

I have a lot more but I'm sure others will touch on them.


Salute the nation
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I actually think he may have gotten the most out of those teams he was going to get. Antonio Brown was a ticking time bomb as we now know. He kept the lid on it to the point that they were always right up there in the mix. LeVeon Bell is like the 100 lb midget with 50 pound balls, he's half nuts. We can see that now with how he frittered his career away. Those are just the two most obvious examples of that time period. So that is what I like about Tomlin. He never loses a team into complete chaos. He has their respect. By all anything we know, which ain't much, he is a good person. Look what he did this summer with those kids who were fighting when he drove past and brought them to camp.

What I don't like is he never changes. It''s really something that you can roll out this terrible offense week after week and you don't see any changes, aside from adjustments to personel. It looks no different with Kenny Pickett than it did with Trubisky.

I would fire him. Maybe he goes somewhere else and finds his footing again. Maybe the firing will make him realize he has to change some things up. And all the experts will say the Steelers were wrong to fire him. But I don't see any other way for the Steelers or him.
 
jitter77 said:
I don't have a problem with tomlin the person, but the way he speaks is cringe worthy. He is just not a strategical coach. We need an X and Os coach and someone to hold the coordinators accountable
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How do you hold a Cordinator “responsible” when you as the HC are dictating what the gameplan is on O & D?
 
Djfan said:
You hear a lot about his love/ hate amongst the faithful. So, let's hear it.

What do you dislike about him? What do you like about him? Keep him? Fire him? Adjust his role?

Fire off now.
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"You can't solve the problems with the same thinking that created them."

Einstein says fire him.
 
My anger at the performance of the team was originally directed at Tomlin and Butler after our last three playoff games when we gave up 135 points and he was calling the shots. Who gets away with that?

It was Butler's defense but later it was said Tomlin calls the defense. Either way, you fire ( or "retire") the DC after the second abysmal which they eventually did after another. Butler becomes another scapegoat while giving the head coach a new contract the year before. Arinas is laughing. Art ll is hosting his head coach for dinner in the mean time. Everything is ok.

What's the result, nothing. Recently, two in house hires for OC and one DC who is probably held up by Flores. Multiple OL coordinators and so it continues.

It's the Duce who I direct my anger at now and I never thought I'd be angry at the Rooneys. It's OK to be stubborn with consistency but in my opinion he's allowed MT to run the show from how the team should draft to who should be the assistant coach etc.

I've had it with the whole organization and Danny Jr. needs to take over.
 
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warriors42 said:
my problem with MT is that he does live in his fears and puts himself above the team. what I mean by this is he will not hire competent asst coaches to lead the offense or defense for fear of it showing his weakness which leads to him putting himself above the team and winning.

A good leader is not afraid to let others succeed or get the credit
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Great points.

My father in law was probably the smartest man I ever met. No formal education. Could sell a fur coat to a Hawaiian in July. Would read medical journals for fun,and retain everything. His stories were legendary. Rose from the ranks of sweep up kid —to running a huge media company of radio and television back in the day. Unfortunately I also never met a man that could drink as much. Or smoke. So he’s long gone. I’d often ask him his secret to his success.

And he would always say,hey it’s easy. You go after and hire the best person you possibly can for each separate department. No matter what it takes.
with their success come your success. They make you look good. It’s easy.

Do the Steelers hire the best coaches for their separate departments? Go after the best.....no matter what it takes. No matter what it costs. I surely think not. And there in lies the problems.

Mike Tomlin’s choices have finally caught up to him. Their failures are his failures. Will he ever be held accountable?
 
Good - he's a nice guy
Bad - he's a nice guy - needs to show some fire on the sideline that rubs off on the players (Unleashing Hell)
 
Is it true that Matt Canada brought Tomlins kid on to the Maryland football team when he was a coach there, and in turn Tomlin hires Canada as qb coach shortly after?
 
Perpetual mediocrity over a decade.
Inability to avoid either a slow start or late season collapse.
Inability to address problem areas (running game)
Clock management and the aggravating, nonsensical explanations he has given for those decisions. He refuses to admit that he is often incapable of staying on top of every aspect of the game that needs to be managed.
 
I don't know if he is a good or bad guy. Persona seems like he is a good leader of men (good). The really bad is he cannot scheme or teach his way out of a jam. He gets a series of pegs in the off season. If the pegs do not fit the holes he is screwed.
 
One of Tomlin's best known mantra's is next man up which is a farce. Ok, I will give you T.J. is not being replaced, but when they had a top 5 defense and then Bud Dupree was lost and they slid down the tank, that is not next man up. The truth is every team is going to be tested by adversity in terms of injuries and I find Tomlin coached teams are the exact opposite of next man up. More like next man up next year in the draft or F.A..
 
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