HOF status vs Bad

[mdk2]

Tomlin is labeled by the media and some fans to be a no doubt HOF, maybe even first ballot. He is beyond reproach by almost entirely everyone in the MSM and former NFL players. Now let’s take a look at Tomlin’s career record and postseason record.

Tomlin:
Regular season: 173–100–2 (.633)
Postseason: 8–10 (.444)
Career: 181–110–2 (.621)
1 SB
Never a losing season

Now, let’s look at Mike McCarthy’s career record and post season. McCarthy is only ever spoken of when it comes to saying how bad of a coach he is. Never have a heard a single player come out and say he doesn’t deserve to be criticized. ESPN craps on him with every opportunity.

McCarthy:
Regular season:167–102–2 (.620)
Postseason: 11–11 (.500)
Career: 178–113–2 (.611)
1 SB
3 losing seasons.

So can anyone tell me what makes one of these guys a horrible coach in the media’s eyes yet the other guy is untouchable and basically a living legend. I guess the difference in the losing seasons is what makes Tomlin so superior, huh?

 

[Steelr4evr]

Just press and media talking heads. It's ridiculous nonsense. We of course see that because we follow the team every damn day, some of us for many decades.

The casual person won't see what we see.


We've lowered the standards of what success is. It used to be building a team that can compete for a championship. They can't even win a playoff game. They got smoked at home two weeks in a row by ****** teams. That's pretty routine. Good teams smash ****** teams.

Nothing will change without serious changes with coaches,scheme,discipline and culture.

 

[Coryea]

McCarthy 3 straight 12 win seasons and a road playoff win last year, Dak was being talked about as an MVP candidate this season, and the national guys think he should be fired.

 

[steelhurt]

Look no further than two other coaches Siriani in Philly who was in the SB last year and he could be fired. Then there’s Belichick with six SB’s in NE.
Of course the media always say that it was more Brady well then why can you not make the argument it was more Ben in Pittsburgh? It’s all bs.
Tomlin is the minority coach that with the non losing seasons has become the national media poster boy minority HC. The last minority and only HC in the HOF is Dungy.
Like I’ve said, he’s an average coach that was blessed early with an excellent squad, coaches and franchise QB for most of his career.
From 2011 until now he’s had autonomy in constructing the squad and hiring his coaches.
The media acts like he was dropped in from the heavens into this terrible team.

 

[Confluence]

Look no further than two other coaches Siriani in Philly who was in the SB last year and he could be fired. Then there’s Belichick with six SB’s in NE.
Of course the media always say that it was more Brady well then why can you not make the argument it was more Ben in Pittsburgh? It’s all bs.
Tomlin is the minority coach that with the non losing seasons has become the national media poster boy minority HC. The last minority and only HC in the HOF is Dungy.
Like I’ve said, he’s an average coach that was blessed early with an excellent squad, coaches and franchise QB for most of his career.
From 2011 until now he’s had autonomy in constructing the squad and hiring his coaches.
The media acts like he was dropped in from the heavens into this terrible team.

Well said!

 

[mdk2]

Look no further than two other coaches Siriani in Philly who was in the SB last year and he could be fired. Then there’s Belichick with six SB’s in NE.
Of course the media always say that it was more Brady well then why can you not make the argument it was more Ben in Pittsburgh? It’s all bs.
Tomlin is the minority coach that with the non losing seasons has become the national media poster boy minority HC. The last minority and only HC in the HOF is Dungy.
Like I’ve said, he’s an average coach that was blessed early with an excellent squad, coaches and franchise QB for most of his career.
From 2011 until now he’s had autonomy in constructing the squad and hiring his coaches.
The media acts like he was dropped in from the heavens into this terrible team.

When Tomlin took this team over they had a HOF DC, a very good OC, HOFers on the defense and offensive side. Those teams didn’t even need a HC. Tomlin had to just show up and blow a whistle once in a while. It’s laughable to think he played a big factor in that SB and the next appearance.

And for the Tomlin fans who want to give him credit.. my question is, why has he declined and won less and less playoff games as Cowher’s players and coaches moved on? Ben tried his best to carry a terribly coached team.

So it’s either he’s regressed as a HC or he was just a cheerleader for the those SB teams.. I’ll go with the latter.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

I think we’ve gotten to where every HC who wins a Super Bowl will get into the HOF.

 

[Misstha70’s]

Tomlin is labeled by the media and some fans to be a no doubt HOF, maybe even first ballot. He is beyond reproach by almost entirely everyone in the MSM and former NFL players. Now let’s take a look at Tomlin’s career record and postseason record.

Tomlin:
Regular season: 173–100–2 (.633)
Postseason: 8–10 (.444)
Career: 181–110–2 (.621)
1 SB
Never a losing season

Now, let’s look at Mike McCarthy’s career record and post season. McCarthy is only ever spoken of when it comes to saying how bad of a coach he is. Never have a heard a single player come out and say he doesn’t deserve to be criticized. ESPN craps on him with every opportunity.

McCarthy:
Regular season:167–102–2 (.620)
Postseason: 11–11 (.500)
Career: 178–113–2 (.611)
1 SB
3 losing seasons.

So can anyone tell me what makes one of these guys a horrible coach in the media’s eyes yet the other guy is untouchable and basically a living legend. I guess the difference in the losing seasons is what makes Tomlin so superior, huh?

Skin color

 

[SteelerSask2]

Perception. Cool factor and sorry but race all play factors. To be fair Cowher is in and you could look at factors why Cowher's should not be compared. But voters won't care. Tomlin is already in.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Perception. Cool factor and sorry but race all play factors. To be fair Cowher is in and you could look at factors why Cowher's should not be compared. But voters won't care. Tomlin is already in.

Only thing, the longer he coaches the worse his playoff record will be and that Super Bowl a distant memory. To burnish his HOF cred he should retire sooner and not later.

 

[SteelerSask2]

Only thing, the longer he coaches the worse his playoff record will be and that Super Bowl a distant memory. To burnish his HOF cred he should retire sooner and not later.

Ron he could do this for another 5 years with same results and the same people will be saying you'd be crazy to get rid if him and those are the types voting. Same ones that wouldn't vote Ben for SB MVP and if it wasn't for a Manning scheduled to go in the hall before Ben with far less numbers he would be scratching his *** to get in.

 

[Coryea]

According the people on CBS sports radio show in the morning, Maggie and Perloff or whoever it is, they say McCarthy underachieves in Dallas, while Tomlin overachieves in Pittsburgh and takes a team that has no business being in the playoffs to the playoffs, eventhough the guy on the show picked the Steelers to be in the Super Bowl this year. The national media just loves moving the goal posts when it comes to Tomlin.

 

[Drink IRON City]

I think we’ve gotten to where every HC who wins a Super Bowl will get into the HOF.

It won’t be long and maybe every QB to have two SB rings will get in as well.

Jim Plunkett hopes so————————— !!!!!


Salute the nation

 

[Gildong Sack]

Perception. Cool factor and sorry but race all play factors. To be fair Cowher is in and you could look at factors why Cowher's should not be compared. But voters won't care. Tomlin is already in.

Tomlin's* bust and the Pats* display should both have asterisks beside them.

 

[Coryea]

Has any other coach in NFL history coached 3 different QB's to multiple AFCCG's? Neil x2, Kordell x2, and Ben x2. How many coaches, coached 2 different starting QB's to Super Bowls? Reid, Cowher, Gibbs, Parcells, Holmgren, Shula, Reeves, Vermeil?

 

[steelhurt]

There is no way Tomlin does not get in the HOF. He could coach this team let’s say five more years, have all non losing seasons, make the playoffs let’s say twice, get smoked in those games and he’s still getting in.
Tomlin is the face for black head coaches and he is made the benchmark for black head coaches to succeed.
Tomlin and his cliche type of communication has the main stream media mesmerized and he’s become their favorite.
The guy does nothing that stands out. Nothing!