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I'm waffling on my pick

while I don't disagree

the Steelers haven't shown a lot of interest in using one TE correctly so having two out there for the QB to ignore seems to be over kill
I'd really like Mayer and he seems to he in the range of 17 and may even fall to 32 but I agree. That said Friermuth better wear the gazoo helmet the big TE from San Fran wears.
 
1. Jones/Wright, OT
2a. Schmitz/Tippmann, C
2b. Washington, TE
3. Mingo/Reed, WR

There is a complete offense around Pickett.
I like it. Doesn't solidify the corner position, still a lot to like. I think in this scenario we could instead see a CB @2B. Regardless that sure would help solidify the trenches.
 
1. Jones/Wright, OT
2a. Schmitz/Tippmann, C
2b. Washington, TE
3. Mingo/Reed, WR

There is a complete offense around Pickett.

I doubt Washington lasts to 49, but then again Freiermuth was not supposed to last until 55. Also, I like Reed a ton - go look at the number of times I selected him in one of my mock drafts - but 80 is pretty early for him.
 
1. Jones/Wright, OT
2a. Schmitz/Tippmann, C
2b. Washington, TE
3. Mingo/Reed, WR

There is a complete offense around Pickett.

I would take this draft faster than the LS10 can burn rubber while getting rubbers……………


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while I don't disagree

the Steelers haven't shown a lot of interest in using one TE correctly so having two out there for the QB to ignore seems to be over kill
so you're suggesting our braintrust should put ... TWO QBs out there.
that, my friend, is brilliance. I hope Tomlin reads the board and runs to Khan with this wonderful suggestion!
 
:ROFLMAO: Waffling is appropriate for this draft. If they want B. Jones for example, I doubt he falls to 17 and would require a trade with Houston for number 12 and at best loose 80 in the process. Then fall back a few spots at 32 and 49 hoping to pick up an additional 4th, 5th, or 6th round pick.

If they stick to 17 and grab the best corner, or DL, I'm not sure Wright or Harrison are there at 32. Too many needs, too few picks.
 
so you're suggesting our braintrust should put ... TWO QBs out there.
that, my friend, is brilliance. I hope Tomlin reads the board and runs to Khan with this wonderful suggestion!
this is a very coach like response

it makes absolutely no sense and not sure how you turn "the qb" into two qbs
 
Originally it was Van Ness. And I'd still be very happy with that but... if they took Broderick Jones and got Campbell with their own second round and say Ringo with 32 I really wouldn't complain. I learned a term around the time they got Watt. War Daddy. That Jones kid looks like a War Daddy. Build, knee bend and athleticism. You better be ready or he looks like he will bury you.
That would be a pretty sick start to the draft

If Jones is there for us I’d sprint up there and turn in the pick faster than the Steelers do
 
I know there will be differences between reality and Jeremiah's top 50 but if it plays even close you have Van Ness PorterJr and the cluster of Tackle. This team is not one great player away. Take your 3 out of top 50. After that if you want to make a move up or down......go for it.
That's why I hope they don't move up. They have 4 picks in the top 80. If they do this right, they should get at least 3 of those 4 to be starters or significant contributors this year and future starters for as long as they want them. But, the draft is still a crap shoot. Even top 10 picks aren't locks to make it in the league.
 
Sorry, but I still see no reason the Steelers should pick a TE with any of their first 4 picks. TE is a luxury pick at this point. It's not even a top 6 need on the team.
 
Sorry, but I still see no reason the Steelers should pick a TE with any of their first 4 picks. TE is a luxury pick at this point. It's not even a top 6 need on the team.

Steelers ran 2-TE sets about 36% of their offensive plays. Also, Freiermuth unfortunately has concussion issues. Suffered two concussions in 2021, one last season. Finally, Washington is such an elite blocker that he is much more than just a TE - he is a TE who doubles as another OT. He is an OT with almost 35" arms who ran a 4.64 40 with a 1.57 10-yard split and has very good hands. Seriously, the dude can block.
 
Steelers ran 2-TE sets about 36% of their offensive plays. Also, Freiermuth unfortunately has concussion issues. Suffered two concussions in 2021, one last season. Finally, Washington is such an elite blocker that he is much more than just a TE - he is a TE who doubles as another OT. He is an OT with almost 35" arms who ran a 4.64 40 with a 1.57 10-yard split and has very good hands. Seriously, the dude can block.
Like we discussed at an earlier time you can draft a slot or a second TE upgrade. Whichever you get Kenny another pass catching option. If you draft a big blocking slot type WR or Washington it gives the team a similar option. I am ok with either and adding to the Oline. Build the offense build the offense build build build.
 
That's why I hope they don't move up. They have 4 picks in the top 80. If they do this right, they should get at least 3 of those 4 to be starters or significant contributors this year and future starters for as long as they want them. But, the draft is still a crap shoot. Even top 10 picks aren't locks to make it in the league.
And the best could be 49. I'm ok with them selling the 7ths to move up from 120. Most of the lower end is already sold anyhow. What I'd be ok with in terms of trades are:
I'd move out of that 32 if the price was really good. Like I'd assume an extra third.
I'd sell the bottom 7ths to get something better at 120 range.
Everything else stay put.
 
Sorry, but I still see no reason the Steelers should pick a TE with any of their first 4 picks. TE is a luxury pick at this point. It's not even a top 6 need on the team.
I’m not keen on it either, but I also recognize this team should be going all-in on the QB and try to build a dominant offense. The defense is solid for now, especially if healthy.
 
Q. If you believe some of the value board guys you want will be there at 2.17 dont you just take Jack Campbell at 2.1 and make sure you get him. I hear some of the talking heads say words like perfect fit. Do you really wanna risk losing that by 7 picks? I think if you take him at 32 you rid yourself of the stench of the Devin Bush pick immediately. He is everything that guy ain't. I wouldn't take him at 1.17 either but if they get him the draft is made for me. The rest is just detail. Really good details hopefully.
 
Gentry is a good blocker and more than capable of getting out for some targets as he did last year. He is a huge target if they want to use him in the redzone more. The receiving part of his game is still improving. I can't see them drafting a TE high when they already have a TE1 and he doesn't seem to be worried about his concussions. TE, especially high is a luxury pick. I still just don't see it when they have so many true needs.
 
Gentry is a good blocker and more than capable of getting out for some targets as he did last year. He is a huge target if they want to use him in the redzone more. The receiving part of his game is still improving. I can't see them drafting a TE high when they already have a TE1 and he doesn't seem to be worried about his concussions. TE, especially high is a luxury pick. I still just don't see it when they have so many true needs.
You can't compare Gentrys blocking with what Washington has to offer, if the kid can catch too then he is a huge target for KP in play action and or audibles against stacked boxes
 
this is a very coach like response

it makes absolutely no sense and not sure how you turn "the qb" into two qbs

Coolie, when it comes to Cooooch, anything is possible.

Supe seems to be assessed with cooooch at times, do the math………..

Is there a chance coooooch “hacked” Supe’s account, all variables to be determined…………..



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Drafts never turn out the way we think they should, best we can hope for when it's done is to sit back and say that's not too bad.

And of course the analysis of Cooch.
Exactly, the last two times someone fell to the steelers that I was really pulling for was DeCastro in the first and Tuitt in the second. It seems like we have a good idea of what the nfl already knows, and the players we're hoping for are almost always gone. If we want someone like Broderick Jones it's going to probably cost us #49. I'm just hoping for the best and not reach (Burns, Edmunds, J. Jones) with our first two picks.
 
You can't compare Gentrys blocking with what Washington has to offer, if the kid can catch too then he is a huge target for KP in play action and or audibles against stacked boxes

I hear what you are saying but also hope they don’t pull another CREED HUMPHRYs-less pick.


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I hear what you are saying but also hope they don’t pull another CREED HUMPHRYs-less pick.


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Yeap, agree. Would be a an option for me at 2.49 if we already got one of the top 4 OT and no premium position is available without reaching
 
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Broderick "Thomas" Jones is one of my favorite picks. He is very likely to be an elite LT, at worst an excellent RT.

Would not mind Van Ness at 17, or my new man-crush, Darnell Washington at 32. Want to make Okorafor a superb run blocking RT? Draft Washington at 32.
1. i think JSN would be a very, very good receiver in the slot. It looks as if he could immediately start there on the Steelers. Of course, in Matt Canada's offense JSN wouldn't even see the field this season. And that's cause the middle of the field is just decoy for Mr. Canada.
Will the Steelers draft this talented WR?
Not a snowball's chance in hell.

2. And I would be pleasantly shocked if they upgraded with a Round 1 OT. The guy who completely and utterly fits the Steelers' pass-pro and inside-zone running schemes - the anti-Kendrick Green - is: Skoronski.


For that reason, and that reason alone, the Steelers will definitely not draft Peter Skoronski.

3. So what kind of player do the Steelers NOT have on their Noah's Ark offense? a ferocious blocking TE.
Who are the Steelers likely to take Round 1?
Darnell Washington.
 
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