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July 4, 1863

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The second greatest 4th of July in our nation's history. On that day, Lincoln received word that Meade had defeated Lee at Gettysburg, Pennsylvania and that Grant had captured Vicksburg and shut off the South's control of the Mississippi. We had won the war and our country was saved.

I strongly recommend that all read "The Killer Angels" by Michael Shaara. The battle at Gettysburg turned on the second day, after Sickles (N.Y., III Corps) abandoned Little Round Top in violation of his orders. The rebels under Hood and Law attacked, and had they captured that ground, they would have had clear artillery range to Hancock's position on Cemetery Ridge. The Union army would have been forced to retreat, and in retreat likely would have suffered massive casualties. A loss of that nature on Union soil would have led to an incredible PR disaster and very possibly defeat.

Fortunately, God once again smiled on our nation. Meade received word that Little Round Top was in peril, and ordered that it be defended at all costs. Meade went to Little Round Top and confronted Sickles, who urged retreat. Meade knew that was not possible and called in almost his entire reserves - 20,000 troops - to hold the ground. Caldwell's division (II Corps), countered the rebel advance, but was torn up in the Wheatfield, Sickles' troops were all but destroyed, so Hancock ordered an artillery regiment from New York and two Pennsylvania reserve units to defend the hill.

The 140th New York dragged their cannon up the steep, rocky incline (you have to visit the site to understand how difficult that would have been), but their artillery was not effective - the troops could not get the cannon pointed downhill at the rebel troops. However, those boys used their small arms and rifle fire to slow the rebel charge (by 15th Alabama). Not long thereafter, the 20th Maine and the 83rd Pennsylvania arrived to help defend the hill.

Chamberlain's troops (20th Maine) were nearly out of ammunition, and he knew his boys could not withstand another rebel charge. Late in the afternoon on July 2, 1863, Chamberlain ordered a bayonet charge by his men on the rebel's II Corps. A bayonet charge against a veteran and well-armed opponent, veterans of dozens of battles, and well-armed. And of course his men fixed bayonets and charged the Alabamans. Chamberlain's charge succeeded, and the North halted the rebel's advance, took a significant number of rebel prisoners from the 15th Alabama, and gave time for reinforcements to arrive. The Union held Little Round Top.

I think about these men a lot. They fought for their brothers. Their bravery is indescribable. They make me proud to be an American. They fought and killed and died for us, for all of us, and for their nation.

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Here's a flag from Gettysburg - handmade. Perfect.

So when I see Americans burning our flag, and spitting on America, and calling our nation racist, and unfair, and immoral - I get a little mad. No, I become incensed.

Tibs, you can have antifa and Avenatti as your heroes. I prefer the men who fought on Little Round Top, and Shiloh, and Vicksburg, and Normandy, and Iwo Jima.

July 3, 1863, 156 years ago. Think about our boys who have fought and died for us, and are still doing so today - including DJ's nephew. God bless them all. We owe them everything.
 
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Or if the Tyrant Lincoln would have simply left the south alone slavery would have died a natural death in 10-20 years and there would have been no need for a million dead Americans and the destruction of federalism.
 
https://www.rutherford.org/publicat...eclare_your_independence_from_tyranny_america
It’s Time to Declare Your Independence from Tyranny, America
By John W. Whitehead
July 02, 2019

“These are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.”—Thomas Paine, December 1776​

It’s time to declare your independence from tyranny, America.

For too long now, we have suffered the injustices of a government that has no regard for our rights or our humanity.

Too easily pacified and placated by the pomp and pageantry of manufactured spectacles (fireworks on the Fourth of July, military parades, ritualized elections, etc.) that are a poor substitute for a representative government that respects the rights of its people, the American people have opted, time and again, to overlook the government’s excesses, abuses and power grabs that fly in the face of every principle for which America’s founders risked their lives.

We have done this to ourselves.

Indeed, it is painfully fitting that mere days before the nation prepared to celebrate its freedoms on the anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, the City Council for Charlottesville, Virginia—the home of Thomas Jefferson, author of the Declaration—voted to do away with a holiday to honor Jefferson’s birthday, because Jefferson, like many of his contemporaries, owned slaves. City councilors have opted instead to celebrate “Liberation and Freedom Day” in honor of slaves who were emancipated after the Civil War.

This is what we have been reduced to: bureaucrats dithering over meaningless trivialities while the government goosesteps all over our freedoms.

Too often, we pay lip service to those freedoms, yet they did not come about by happenstance. They were hard won through sheer determination, suffering and sacrifice by thousands of patriotic Americans who not only believed in the cause of freedom but also had the intestinal fortitude to act on that belief. The success of the American revolution owes much to these men and women.

In standing up to the British Empire and speaking out against an oppressive regime, they exemplified courage in the face of what seemed like an overwhelming foe.

Indeed, imagine living in a country where armed soldiers crash through doors to arrest and imprison citizens merely for criticizing government officials.

Imagine that in this very same country, you’re watched all the time, and if you look even a little bit suspicious, the police stop and frisk you or pull you over to search you on the off chance you’re doing something illegal.

Keep in mind that if you have a firearm of any kind (or anything that resembled a firearm) while in this country, it may get you arrested and, in some circumstances, shot by police.

If you’re thinking this sounds like America today, you wouldn’t be far wrong.

However, the scenario described above took place more than 200 years ago, when American colonists suffered under Great Britain’s version of an early police state. It was only when the colonists finally got fed up with being silenced, censored, searched, frisked, threatened, and arrested that they finally revolted against the tyrant’s fetters.

No document better states their grievances than the Declaration of Independence, drafted by Thomas Jefferson.

A document seething with outrage over a government which had betrayed its citizens, the Declaration of Independence was signed on July 4, 1776, by 56 men who laid everything on the line, pledged it all—“our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor”—because they believed in a radical idea: that all people are created to be free.

Labeled traitors, these men were charged with treason, a crime punishable by death. For some, their acts of rebellion would cost them their homes and their fortunes. For others, it would be the ultimate price—their lives.

Yet even knowing the heavy price they might have to pay, these men dared to speak up when silence could not be tolerated. Even after they had won their independence from Great Britain, these new Americans worked to ensure that the rights they had risked their lives to secure would remain secure for future generations.

The result: our Bill of Rights, the first ten amendments to the Constitution.

Imagine the shock and outrage these 56 men would feel were they to discover that 243 years later, the government they had risked their lives to create has been transformed into a militaristic police state in which exercising one’s freedoms—at a minimum, merely questioning a government agent—is often viewed as a flagrant act of defiance.

In fact, had the Declaration of Independence been written today, it would have rendered its signers extremists or terrorists, resulting in them being placed on a government watch list, targeted for surveillance of their activities and correspondence, and potentially arrested, held indefinitely, stripped of their rights and labeled enemy combatants.

The danger is real.

We could certainly use some of that revolutionary outrage today.

Certainly, we would do well to reclaim the revolutionary spirit of our ancestors and remember what drove them to such drastic measures in the first place.

Then again, perhaps what we need to do is declare our independence from the tyranny of the American police state.

It’s not a radical idea.

It has been done before.

The Declaration of Independence speaks volumes about the abuses suffered by early Americans at the hands of the British police state.

Read the Declaration of Independence again, and ask yourself if the list of complaints tallied by Jefferson don’t bear a startling resemblance to the abuses “we the people” are suffering at the hands of the American police state.

If you find the purple prose used by the Founders hard to decipher, here’s my translation of what the Declaration of Independence would look and sound like if it were written in the modern vernacular:

There comes a time when a populace must stand united and say “enough is enough” to the government’s abuses, even if it means getting rid of the political parties in power.

Believing that “we the people” have a natural and divine right to direct our own lives, here are truths about the power of the people and how we arrived at the decision to sever our ties to the government:

All people are created equal.

All people possess certain innate rights that no government or agency or individual can take away from them. Among these are the right to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

The government’s job is to protect the people’s innate rights to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. The government’s power comes from the will of the people.

Whenever any government abuses its power, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish that government and replace it with a new government that will respect and protect the rights of the people.

It is not wise to get rid of a government for minor transgressions. In fact, as history has shown, people resist change and are inclined to suffer all manner of abuses to which they have become accustomed.

However, when the people have been subjected to repeated abuses and power grabs, carried out with the purpose of establishing a tyrannical government, people have a right and duty to do away with that tyrannical Government and to replace it with a new government that will protect and preserve their innate rights for their future wellbeing.

This is exactly the state of affairs we are under suffering under right now, which is why it is necessary that we change this imperial system of government.

The history of the present Imperial Government is a history of repeated abuses and power grabs, carried out with the intention of establishing absolute Tyranny over the country.

To prove this, consider the following:

The government has, through its own negligence and arrogance, refused to adopt urgent and necessary laws for the good of the people.

The government has threatened to hold up critical laws unless the people agree to relinquish their right to be fully represented in the Legislature.

In order to expand its power and bring about compliance with its dictates, the government has made it nearly impossible for the people to make their views and needs heard by their representatives.

The government has repeatedly suppressed protests arising in response to its actions.

The government has obstructed justice by refusing to appoint judges who respect the Constitution and has instead made the Courts march in lockstep with the government’s dictates.

The government has allowed its agents to harass the people, steal from them, jail them and even execute them.

The government has directed militarized government agents—a.k.a., a standing army—to police domestic affairs in peacetime.

The government has turned the country into a militarized police state.

The government has conspired to undermine the rule of law and the constitution in order to expand its own powers.

The government has allowed its militarized police to invade our homes and inflict violence on homeowners.

The government has failed to hold its agents accountable for wrongdoing and murder under the guise of “qualified immunity.”

The government has jeopardized our international trade agreements.

The government has overtaxed us without our permission.

The government has denied us due process and the right to a fair trial.

The government has engaged in extraordinary rendition.

The government has continued to expand its military empire in collusion with its corporate partners-in-crime and occupy foreign nations.

The government has eroded fundamental legal protections and destabilized the structure of government.

The government has not only declared its federal powers superior to those of the states but has also asserted its sovereign power over the rights of “we the people.”

The government has ceased to protect the people and instead waged domestic war against the people.

The government has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, and destroyed the lives of the people.

The government has employed private contractors and mercenaries to carry out acts of death, desolation and tyranny, totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

The government through its political propaganda has pitted its citizens against each other.

The government has stirred up civil unrest and laid the groundwork for martial law.

Repeatedly, we have asked the government to cease its abuses. Each time, the government has responded with more abuse.

An Imperial Ruler who acts like a tyrant is not fit to govern a free people.

We have repeatedly sounded the alarm to our fellow citizens about the government’s abuses. We have warned them about the government’s power grabs. We have appealed to their sense of justice. We have reminded them of our common bonds.

They have rejected our plea for justice and brotherhood. They are equally at fault for the injustices being carried out by the government.

Thus, for the reasons mentioned above, we the people of the united States of America declare ourselves free from the chains of an abusive government. Relying on God’s protection, we pledge to stand by this Declaration of Independence with our lives, our fortunes and our honor.​

That was 243 years ago.

In the years since early Americans first declared and eventually won their independence from Great Britain, we—the descendants of those revolutionary patriots—have through our inaction and complacency somehow managed to work ourselves right back under the tyrant’s thumb.

Only this time, the tyrant is one of our own making: the American Police State.

The abuses meted out by an imperial government and endured by the American people have not ended. They have merely evolved.

“We the people” are still being robbed blind by a government of thieves.

We are still being taken advantage of by a government of scoundrels, idiots and monsters.

We are still being locked up by a government of greedy jailers.

We are still being spied on by a government of Peeping Toms.

We are still being ravaged by a government of ruffians, rapists and killers.

We are still being forced to surrender our freedoms—and those of our children—to a government of extortionists, money launderers and corporate pirates.

And we are still being held at gunpoint by a government of soldiers: a standing army in the form of a militarized police.

Given the fact that we are a relatively young nation, it hasn’t taken very long for an authoritarian regime to creep into power.

Unfortunately, the bipartisan coup that laid siege to our nation did not happen overnight.

It snuck in under our radar, hiding behind the guise of national security, the war on drugs, the war on terror, the war on immigration, political correctness, hate crimes and a host of other official-sounding programs aimed at expanding the government’s power at the expense of individual freedoms.

The building blocks for the bleak future we’re just now getting a foretaste of—police shootings of unarmed citizens, profit-driven prisons, weapons of compliance, a wall-to-wall surveillance state, pre-crime programs, a suspect society, school-to-prison pipelines, militarized police, overcriminalization, SWAT team raids, endless wars, etc.—were put in place by government officials we trusted to look out for our best interests and by American citizens who failed to heed James Madison’s warning to “take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties.”

In so doing, we compromised our principles, negotiated away our rights, and allowed the rule of law to be rendered irrelevant.

There is no knowing how long it will take to undo the damage wrought by government corruption, corporate greed, militarization, and a nation of apathetic, gullible sheep.

The problems we are facing will not be fixed overnight: that is the grim reality with which we must contend.

Frankly, as I make clear in my book Battlefield America: The War on the American People, we may see no relief from the police state in my lifetime or for several generations to come.

That does not mean we should give up or give in or tune out.

Remember, there is always a price to be paid for remaining silent in the face of injustice.

That price is tyranny.

As Edmund Burke, the eighteenth-century British statesman and author who supported the American colonists warned, “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
 
I went to Gettysburg this past April. I’ll never forget it. Amazing place.
 
The Killer Angels is an excellent read, need to find my copy again.
You have to visit Gettysburg to appreciate the magnitude of it. Humbling experience.
 
The Killer Angels is an excellent read, need to find my copy again.
You have to visit Gettysburg to appreciate the magnitude of it. Humbling experience.

Funny how life works. I live about an hour, hour and 15 minutes from Gettysburg.

In my life I've lived within 1.5-2 hours of Washington DC my whole life. 3 different states, 3 different locales, but all within the DC limits. I have driven past Gettysburg, quite literally, a hundred times on the way to work meetings, basketball tournaments, personal travel. Yet only visited the park once.

Guess life is like this. They say those in Paris visit the Eifel Tower exactly two times...as kids when their parents take them, as adults when they take their kids. Locals don't often appreciate and enjoy the local attractions, but hell we will travel to see them.

I should make a Saturday of it and really spend some time at Gettysburg. The enormity of those days, of that battle, is almost beyond comprehension. Ditches and trenches so full of dead bodies that they filled up, were no longer ditches, and soldiers marched right over top of the dead.

That battle is simply something I cannot picture, fathom, comprehend. The enormity of life lost. The importance of it all.

I will say this, and wish it if someone could share it...a few years ago a photographer published some then and now pictures of Gettysburg. One stood out in my mind. Believe it was Little Round Top and a large rock there. In the then photo laid a dead soldier on top of the rock. The now photo showed current tourists standing on the rock in the same place or next to the spot that dead soldier lay. That picture fascinates me as so many in that expose did.

If anyone remembers the link, shoot it my way?

Happy 4th again everyone. Enjoying a Titos if it seems I'm rambling, which of course I am...

EDIT: I found the link. Fascinating photos: https://www.nps.gov/gett/learn/photosmultimedia/then-and-now.htm

Good Night America.
 
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You have to visit Gettysburg to appreciate the magnitude of it. Humbling experience.

Would love to visit someday. Gettysburg is on the bucket list, along with St. Vincent College at Latrobe for a training camp one day.
 
Would love to visit someday. Gettysburg is on the bucket list, along with St. Vincent College at Latrobe for a training camp one day.

Do both.

I've taken my kids to Latrobe 3 or 4 times. 100% free. It's quite a day. You literally get up close to the players. Just a fun atmosphere. Next day or prior, head down to Gettysburg. Hotels are cheap, the area is pretty open country. Make sure to take the guided tours, etc.

EDIT: And head on up to the Burgh and do a stadium tour. Worth it. I've had pictures of my kids taken with Tomlin, Art Rooney Jr and Colbert at these events. Went to the Super Bowl parade in 2008 too, had Troy P crowd dive 10 yards from us. Good times.
 
Do both.

I've taken my kids to Latrobe 3 or 4 times. 100% free. It's quite a day. You literally get up close to the players. Just a fun atmosphere. Next day or prior, head down to Gettysburg. Hotels are cheap, the area is pretty open country. Make sure to take the guided tours, etc.

EDIT: And head on up to the Burgh and do a stadium tour. Worth it. I've had pictures of my kids taken with Tomlin, Art Rooney Jr and Colbert at these events. Went to the Super Bowl parade in 2008 too, had Troy P crowd dive 10 yards from us. Good times.

Sounds awesome, been wanted to do so for years, maybe one day I can make it happen.
 
Would love to visit someday. Gettysburg is on the bucket list, along with St. Vincent College at Latrobe for a training camp one day.

I visited June, 2010 with wife. She asked me where I wanted to go, as most vacations are planned by the Mrs. and we go where she wants. I told her I had done a report about Gettysburg in 7th grade, and the research I did had stuck with me my entire life so I wanted to see Gettysburg.

We planned a whole vacation for Pennsylvania. Flew into Philadelphia, spent two days there visiting historical Revolutionary war sites. Drove to Gettysburg the next morning, checked into a nice hotel, Comfort Suites. Took a 4-hour tour the next day via ... Segue. The best way to do it. Out of the car the entire trip. Met up in town, and headed towards the battlefield. Started at the Peach Orchard and Wheat Field, then moved to Seminary Ridge, where the Confederates wound up setting their line. Looked across a sprawling field covering just less than 1 mile - the field the Confederates had to cross to reach the Union position on Cemetery Ridge.

Also went to Little Round Top. It is not a big area - maybe 3-4 acres (?). Thousands fought on that hill in close quarters, and hundreds died for their country, for their families, for their fellow troops. From there, we went to Cemetery Ridge. The ridge had a stone fence about 3' high, running several hundred feet. Union Cavalry General John Buford believed it was an ideal position to set up the Union defenses, but worried that the large Union infantry reinforcements would not reach them in time. Nonetheless, he made the decision to stand and defend that ground. If he had abandoned Cemetery Ridge, the rebels would have held the high ground at Seminary Ridge and the even better ground at Cemetery Ridge.

Cemetery Ridge has a plaque and statue commemorating Father William Corby, who gave absolution (last rites) to Irish troops before the battle on July 2, 1863. Father Corby (who later became President of Notre Dame) stood on a rock and blessed the Irish Brigade, which had suffered massive casualties the prior day.

Gettysburg fell into dramatic disrepair in the 1930's, but the city and Federal government put in a LOT of time and money to restore it to what it looked like on July 1-3, 1863. For some reason, the town had cut down vast amounts of trees, but those were replanted and the foliage around Gettysburg is very much the same as it looked in 1863.

Pickett's forces had to cross almost a mile over open ground to reach Cemetery Ridge. What I did not know before I visited was that for some reason, a large wooden fence about 5' high traversed a very large section of the plain. The fence has been reconstructed to look the same as it did on July 3, 1863. The rebels had to climb that fence, located maybe 100 yards from the Union line. A piece of that fence is in the Gettysburg museum. I am not going to describe it - you literally have to see it to believe it.

By-the-by, Gettysburg is as pretty as a polished diamond. Gettysburg had a population of about 2,400 people as of July 1, 1863. Only one - ONE - citizen died during the fighting. Back then, soldiers did not hide behind citizens, including children.

Here is the photo that I believe Tim mentioned?

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The photo shows dead Confederate troops at the "Slaughter Pen," at the foot of Little Round Top.

This site has a number of photos, showing the results of the battle merged with present day views of the same locations:

https://www.nps.gov/gett/learn/photosmultimedia/then-and-now.htm
 
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