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Let the rumor mill roll - bad QB version

topseed said:
You left ONE game out, not two. Pickett played in a total of 12 games in 2023.

Yeah, it's hard to believe that you said: "He looked exactly like Pickett did the year before," yet somehow didn't really mean it, until I pointed out all of their glaring dissimilarities. Funny how that works.

Fields was almost 12 points better than Pickett in passer rating. That's not close, it's 15% better. The rushing stats speak for themselves, and even when you insist that we somehow shouldn't compare the statistics, anybody with a set of working eyeballs can see that JF's running ability alone sets him clearly apart from Pickett.
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Again you brought up comparing stats not me, they looked the same in the throws they were asked/allowed to make and offense they were asked to run, I never said Fields wasn't better than Pickett, so keep going.
 
Coryea said:
Again you brought up comparing stats not me, they looked the same in the throws they were asked/allowed to make and offense they were asked to run, I never said Fields wasn't better than Pickett, so keep going.
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You brought up that Fields and Pickett looked exactly the same, not me. Those were your precise words. Read them again in enlarged bold print above if you'd like.

And even before that, you said: "Fields should be thankful for any opportunity he gets," and went on to complain about his low career completion percentage, poor passer rating, and fumbling issues. I simply pointed out that Fields played much better with the Steelers last year than he did in Chicago, which is relevant when his career numbers are criticized. Kenny Pickett really has nothing to do with it, except that he performed (worse) under similar restrictions.

I guess you can keep on denying that you said it, if it makes you feel better. Or something.
 
topseed said:
You brought up that Fields and Pickett looked exactly the same, not me. Those were your precise words. Read them again in enlarged bold print above if you'd like.

And even before that, you said: "Fields should be thankful for any opportunity he gets," and went on to complain about his low career completion percentage, poor passer rating, and fumbling issues. I simply pointed out that Fields played much better with the Steelers last year than he did in Chicago, which is relevant when his career numbers are criticized. Kenny Pickett really has nothing to do with it, except that he performed (worse) under similar restrictions.

I guess you can keep on denying that you said it, if it makes you feel better. Or something.
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He should be thankful for any opportunity he gets, he hasn't put up great stats in his career. Is that false? Whether it's his fault or 4 OC's, etc. I'll take Fields any day over Pickett, but the offense looked very similar no matter which QB was in there, Hell a report just came out saying he doesn't like throwing in the middle of the field
 
Drink IRON City said:
BONUS: I think the Lawrence thing was not valid. Pittsburgh is NOT going after Trevor.
———— Fields is as good a bridge QB as Trevor, and fields has a year in the “system”.


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I like how you put quotes around “system”. As in our so-called system. So true.

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The Rams are saying they want a 1st rounder for Stafford. The Steelers would be complete fools to trade that kind of draft capital (not to mention his cap hits) for him or any other QB with one foot out the retirement door. This would be a HUGE mistake for the Steelers.
 
TDX27 said:
The Rams are saying they want a 1st rounder for Stafford. The Steelers would be complete fools to trade that kind of draft capital (not to mention his cap hits) for him or any other QB with one foot out the retirement door. This would be a HUGE mistake for the Steelers.
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So you're saying Stafford will be our QB next season...
 
Coryea said:
He should be thankful for any opportunity he gets, he hasn't put up great stats in his career. Is that false? Whether it's his fault or 4 OC's, etc. I'll take Fields any day over Pickett, but the offense looked very similar no matter which QB was in there, Hell a report just came out saying he doesn't like throwing in the middle of the field
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Fields doesn't need to be "thankful" for anything. He went 4-2 as a starter with the Steelers last season, accounting for 10 touchdowns with only 2 turnovers, and he acquitted himself well even with obvious restraints in place. Some team will offer him an opportunity to be a starter, whether it's Pittsburgh or elsewhere. And it will be deservedly so.
 
topseed said:
Fields doesn't need to be "thankful" for anything. He went 4-2 as a starter with the Steelers last season, accounting for 10 touchdowns with only 2 turnovers, and he acquitted himself well even with obvious restraints in place. Some team will offer him an opportunity to be a starter, whether it's Pittsburgh or elsewhere. And it will be deservedly so.
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Absolutely !!! Justin improved his stock, not just to the Steelers but also to the league wide NFL.

Many are saying sign him like it’s no big deal. There is going to be more than one team in that hunt. NY Jets have already shown interest.

Fields is a total free agent and can sign anywhere once FA-ency starts. The Steelers may have some inside track but hence Agents get involved, $$$money$$$, can all change everything. Add in that Justin Fields will not just sign a Steelers contract without investigating what his market value truly is.

Can’t blame Justin one bit and I hope the Steelers don’t **** around and lose him. There isn’t much out there that would improve this team vastly more.. Fields has a high ceiling potential and myself, would take that risk full jump in.

I’ve revised my number to say 17 mil (low side) to 24 mil (high side) 2/yr with 55% to 70% guaranteed to get him.


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Drink IRON City said:
Absolutely !!! Justin improved his stock, not just to the Steelers but also to the league wide NFL.

Many are saying sign him like it’s no big deal. There is going to be more than one team in that hunt. NY Jets have already shown internet.

Fields is a total free agent and can sign anywhere once FA-ency starts. The Steelers may have some inside track but hence Agents get involved, $$$money$$$, can all change everything. Add in that Justin Fields will not just sign a Steelers contract without investigating what his market value truly is.

Can’t blame Justin one bit and I hope the Steelers don’t **** around and lose him. There isn’t much out there that would improve this team vastly more.. Fields has a high ceiling potential and myself, would take that risk full jump in.

I’ve revised my number to say 17 mil (low side) to 24 mil (high side) 2/yr with 55% to 70% guaranteed to get him.


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I’ve been thinking a team will likely offer him at least 3-4 year in the 20-25 range per

Could see him do a 3 year 60 with say 45 guaranteed or something like a 4 year 100 with 50 guaranteed.

The money QBs make anymore is crazy and as a top FA prospect along with Darnold I think both will get paid in this QB needy league.
 
topseed said:
Fields doesn't need to be "thankful" for anything. He went 4-2 as a starter with the Steelers last season, accounting for 10 touchdowns with only 2 turnovers, and he acquitted himself well even with obvious restraints in place. Some team will offer him an opportunity to be a starter, whether it's Pittsburgh or elsewhere. And it will be deservedly so.
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He also had 5 fumbles that we recovered, something that has always been an issue with him.
Well for his sake, he should go anywhere but here, alot of people were saying good things about Pickett after his rookie year, that he could be good here, etc., but the restraints of Tomlin will never allow that, same with Fields.
 
Fiji Mariner said:
I’ve been thinking a team will likely offer him at least 3-4 year in the 20-25 range per

Could see him do a 3 year 60 with say 45 guaranteed or something like a 4 year 100 with 50 guaranteed.

The money QBs make anymore is crazy and as a top FA prospect along with Darnold I think both will get paid in this QB needy league.
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I just put out early feelers to see what numbers others thought as well.

With my Spirit World visitation(s) I have learned that you don’t fall under the “others” category. You are continuously mentioned in the history archives and the Elders talk of you in a favorable way (don’t let this go to your head as you may need that at some time). Live Free-Happy Life would be something to keep close.

My biggest concern is the Steelers sitting with their thumbs up their AsZ waiting. I think Justin signs fairly fast, less than a week so the Steelers best be adamant about securing him as our starting QB of the immediate future. A snooze ya looooZe situation the Steelers have been notorious for.

Good News, my 1927, 27cylinder Air-plane is now hitting on 23 rotor cylinders as I got two more repaired. No fear as that’s the beauty of this type of motor, you can still fly with as few as 11 cylinders (take offs are very hard at that level). What this means to you and that intuit village is, your shipments will be timely and their MAIL and streamer pirate codes will always be delivered so as they will not miss any Steelers games.


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Drink IRON City said:
I just put out early feelers to see what numbers others thought as well.

With my Spirit World visitation(s) I have learned that you don’t fall under the “others” category. You are continuously mentioned in the history archives and the Elders talk of you in a favorable way (don’t let this go to your head as you may need that at some time). Live Free-Happy Life would be something to keep close.

My biggest concern is the Steelers sitting with their thumbs up their AsZ waiting. I think Justin signs fairly fast, less than a week so the Steelers best be adamant about securing him as our starting QB of the immediate future. A snooze ya looooZe situation the Steelers have been notorious for.

Good News, my 1927, 27cylinder Air-plane is now hitting on 23 rotor cylinders as I got two more repaired. No fear as that’s the beauty of this type of motor, you can still fly with as few as 11 cylinders (take offs are very hard at that level). What this means to you and that intuit village is, your shipments will be timely and their MAIL and streamer pirate codes will always be delivered so as they will not miss any Steelers games.


Salute the nation
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The one caveat I saw him quoted as saying he wanted a legitimate shot at the starting role, so while he said the right things after being benched for OldeRuss he obviously wants reassurances that he is not put in the same situation.

I’m right there with yaz, I have a feeling the Steelers aren’t in lock step in the FO with direction for QB1 and the feet dragging may very well cost them having a shot at the QB with a potential future as a solution to the QB question.

It’s not like we’d be letting Ben slip out the door but screwing around and whiffing on Fields definitely opens the door for meh “solutions” such as Russ, Carr, Cousins or (vomit in mouth) Rodgers.

At least Fields gives some hope, and hope is a helluva drug.
 
ZonaBurgh said:
Beating a dead drum here, but if you had a choice of any QB now playing, which one thrives with the current coaching?
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The dead drum should be able to keep that internal clock going to the beat....... no sacks......................


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I feel like if Fields gets to FA he is gone. His yards per game during this year is low, but only because the count all the games he was in for a couple runs against it.. he averaged a bit over 180 ypg in his starts... his numbers are really comparable to Daniel jones' 4th year numbers that got Jones a 40 million per extension three years ago... someone will gamble big on him if we dont

And we wont... Tomlin just wants fades to the outside... and Wilson is better at that... so they will bring him back... ..
 
Unfortunately there are not many options out there at QB and we are in QB purgatory thanks to the wonderful planning of Mediocre Mike when Ben was on his last legs.
I say go with the young, athletic Justin Fields and give him some playmakers.
If he fails then draft your QB in 26.
 
Coryea said:
Again you brought up comparing stats not me, they looked the same in the throws they were asked/allowed to make and offense they were asked to run, I never said Fields wasn't better than Pickett, so keep going.
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Stats aside.....it was the exact same offense.
 
Just think about it…
Throwing over the middle is dangerous-per Mike Tomlin.

Ya know what’s less dangerous than throwing? Running!!!

We need to fully commit and scrap
The run/run/pass/punt offense for the run/run/run/punt mixed with the run/run/run/run turnover on downs offense.

Warren may not be the best back for this offense though as turnovers are the ultimate betrayal to the new and improved less risky Tomlin run based offense.

We just need to trade Friermuth and Pickens for an extra OL and a RB. Put 7 OL and Washington at TE (top secret info-he’s only a blocker and any routes are just decoys). Go grab Chubb to play “QB” and flank him with 2 speedy RBs and go wildcat all game every game.

I don’t want to see a damn forward pass next year, it’s simply too risky.

Luckily we have the perfect OC to implement this new risk averse scheme.

SuperbOwl
 
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