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Mason is back

I like Rudolph. I don't like Dart, Ewers, or Howard. Draft Shough in the 4th. Let Rudy play and draft Grant, Tyliek Williams,or Benjamin Morrison in the first. Jundkins or Omarian Hampton in the second.
 
steelhurt said:
I don’t know where the hell you got all that from me saying what I did about Omar Kahn.
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From your own words of criticism. I get it, you would rather Weidel be in charge. Personally, I think they are doing a good job in whatever the setup is.
steelhurt said:
I never, ever said or indicated players would be lining up to play here.
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Quotes like this sound exactly like that. "He should have locked up Justin weeks ago".
steelhurt said:
My criticism is vp of Omar Kahn who imo is not the a GM to run this team. He’s a numbers guy, a very good one but has had no experience in player scouting prior to his current position. Andy Weidel is the person that has proven experience and should be the GM not Omar.
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People have different opinions all the time. Kahn was promoted to GM, THEN Weidel became available and they scooped him up. If he had been available when the GM decision was being made maybe the choice would have been different. As it is I believe that the setup they have allows both people to do what they are good at. Weidel would have less time to do what he does best if he also had to deal with the day to day BS that I am sure Kahn is taking care of.
steelhurt said:
He’s got played by the Aiyuk and SF and now is allowing to team to be held hostage by the the narcissist Rodgers. He’s should have locked up Justin weeks ago and the team could be filling holes
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What if Aiyuk could have been had and he just sat on his *** and did nothing? He did the right thing, he attempted to get him but it didn't work out. Just because you want something doesn't mean you just get it.
steelhurt said:
These players care about money, period. Show them the money and they will come. It’s never been about a certain coach or team it’s about dead presidents and that’s all it is with them.
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So, "He’s a numbers guy, a very good one", but you want him to just make it rain with no thought to anything else?

We all have differing opinions of what should be done, and this board allows us to play GM or Coach. If any of us were right 100% of the time, we would probably have that job already. I do know that years ago people from the team read this board all the time, I would imagine that they still do. They would have called if they wanted any of us to interview for open positions.
 
MT~Forged said:
From your own words of criticism. I get it, you would rather Weidel be in charge. Personally, I think they are doing a good job in whatever the setup is.

Quotes like this sound exactly like that. "He should have locked up Justin weeks ago".

People have different opinions all the time. Kahn was promoted to GM, THEN Weidel became available and they scooped him up. If he had been available when the GM decision was being made maybe the choice would have been different. As it is I believe that the setup they have allows both people to do what they are good at. Weidel would have less time to do what he does best if he also had to deal with the day to day BS that I am sure Kahn is taking care of.

What if Aiyuk could have been had and he just sat on his *** and did nothing? He did the right thing, he attempted to get him but it didn't work out. Just because you want something doesn't mean you just get it.

So, "He’s a numbers guy, a very good one", but you want him to just make it rain with no thought to anything else?

We all have differing opinions of what should be done, and this board allows us to play GM or Coach. If any of us were right 100% of the time, we would probably have that job already. I do know that years ago people from the team read this board all the time, I would imagine that they still do. They would have called if they wanted any of us to interview for open positions.
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You’re a right fighter plain and simple. You try and argue your points by taking other posters points out of context just to try and prove yourself right.
 
topseed said:
I was encouraged with some of the smaller moves Kahn made early on, but given what's gone on at the wide receiver position last year and quarterback right now, I have to question his ability as a GM.
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Why, because he can't DEMAND someone sign a contract? The QB market has been really crappy for the last couple of years, especially when you don't have the money against the cap to chase the top guys.
topseed said:
With Kahn being a "numbers guy," one has to wonder what he was thinking to allow Fields to walk for just an 5 extra million a year.
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They had a value they placed on him. Smart money guys don't just "wing" it, they evaluate, make a plan, then stick to it. IF the NY deal was already on the table when they made their offer then why make it in the first place, just let him walk. People are undervalued every day. I have lost employees before because I didn't feel I could pay what they got elsewhere, it happens.
topseed said:
This would have been the perfect time to put some faith in Fields as a starter, and found out if he could've turned the corner with the same OC for the first time in his career.
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By the fact that they made an offer, it tells me that they were open to that direction. It was also obvious that they were still going to be looking to upgrade the Fields option too. Again, the player wanted to be guaranteed the starting job without the demonstration that they deserved it, they didn't want to have to compete. These young players are too damn entitled today.

topseed said:
Now he's bringing back a quarterback in Rudolph who is nothing more than a career backup, and the Steelers basically have their fingers up their @sses, waiting on the musings of a 41-year old has-been. Don't be surprised if they end up crawling to Russ, and this shitshow can start another act with two QBs who have already proved that they can't accomplish anything in Pittsburgh.
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They signed a NEEDED B/U QB for peanuts. The Rudolph signing has no impact on the search for a starting QB. If they feel Rudolph is capable of starting if they get no one else, they did it cheap. My guess is that Rudolph is/was never in the starting QB discussion.
 
topseed said:
Here we go already with the FFL Mason Rudolph Excuse Express Train...all aboard!
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The quote was in reference to Rudolph not having played in a Smith offense, so you have no idea what he will do if forced into starting.
 
Steelmann said:
If you go back,you and I were one of the very few on here that thought Mason got shafted when they brought in Mitch as a starter. Mason was supposedly being promoted to #1 after Big Ben. At that time I was totally for them playing him all year to get it over with and see exactly what he had. I was totally against signing Mitch.
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I was also of that opinion
Steelmann said:
Perhaps I am hasty judging my mentoring comment. Although your comment “ from all reports he helped Kenny and Mitch as much as he could “ certainly doesn’t bode well for Mason. They both sucked.
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Did Rudy offer insight that wasn't accepted? Did he offer insight that was 100% wrong? We don't know, but Ben talked about how smart he was a number of times. He is perceived to be good enough that he is still getting paid, instead of getting on with his life's work.
Steelmann said:
Personally,If someone is to be a mentor I’d like to think they’ve been successful in their occupation. While his bank account is successful,I certainly don’t think you could say he’s had a successful career on the field. But I get what you’re saying,it’s not 100% statistical.
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Some people know what to do but just don't have the ability to pull it off, these people make the best mentors. We had a guy when I was in the Navy that could just not pass the tests or stay out of trouble to advance beyond E-3, but he taught EVERYONE in our shop how to keep the equipment working like nobody I had ever met.
Steelmann said:
I think my frustration is just the lack of planning. And it’s been going on for years. Everyone and their dog knew we had no QB’s under contract for 2025. One could say the same thing for going into 2024. Fields and Wilson just fell into their laps. And let’s face it they were cheap. I’ve always been the one to say drafting your QB is the way to go,with the all important 5 year rookie deal. It’s why I was against trading for Aiyuk and then Metcalf this year. Giving up high draft choices is huge and leaves you less bargaining power if you want to move up. Nothing is more important than getting your future QB.
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Solid reasoning. Kind of like drafting a RB in round 1 when you have no OL to speak of. I also am not a fan of the Metcalf signing, because they had NOBODY committed to QB1. If they had ANY QB1 in the #20-25 range, then I would feel differently. Maybe it works out, but I would rather have had that #2 to use to build for the next QB1 for a whole lot less money.
 
troymania said:
I like Rudolph. I don't like Dart, Ewers, or Howard. Draft Shough in the 4th. Let Rudy play and draft Grant, Tyliek Williams,or Benjamin Morrison in the first. Jundkins or Omarian Hampton in the second.
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After watching Howard at the combine, I would only consider him as an UDFA
 
steelhurt said:
You’re a right fighter plain and simple. You try and argue your points by taking other posters points out of context just to try and prove yourself right.
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That is the problem with message board convos. You just have to accept that and WE have to try to explain ourselves better.

I am sure I misinterpreted your meaning, just as you are mine.
 
Rudy, an experienced veteran. Cheap. That's what we did last year. Veteran qb's cheap.

Start the season!
 
Rudy, an experienced veteran. Cheap. That's what we did last year. Veteran qb's cheap.

Start the season!
 
warriors42 said:
I love the signing. I do not sign Rodgers or Wilson now. Like I said in a different post, on draft day I start trading picks away like I'm a ten year old trading marbles or sports cards. Then I set back and see if we end up with a top ten pick that we could use along with all my picks I got from trading this year and go get Arch who is probably gonna be the best of all the Manning's.

One ****** season for another possible HOF QB. I take that in a heart beat.
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agreed, but not what will happen
 
troymania said:
I like Rudolph. I don't like Dart, Ewers, or Howard. Draft Shough in the 4th. Let Rudy play and draft Grant, Tyliek Williams,or Benjamin Morrison in the first. Jundkins or Omarian Hampton in the second.
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Welcome back
Your dreams were your ticket out
Welcome back
To that same old place that you laughed about
Well, the names have all changed
Since you hung around
But those dreams have remained
And they've turned around
Who'd have thought they'd lead you
(Who'd have thought they'd lead you)
Back here where we need you?
(Back here where we need you?)
Yeah, we tease him a lot
'Cause we got him on the spot
Welcome back
Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back
Welcome back, welcome back
Welcome back
We always could spot a friend
Welcome back
And I smile when I think how you must have been
And I know what a scene
You were learnin' in
Was there somethin' that
Made you come back again?
And what could ever lead you
(What could ever lead you)
Back here where we need you?
(Back here where we need you?)
Yeah, we tease him a lot
'Cause we got him on the spot
Welcome back
Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back
Welcome back, welcome back
And I know what a scene
You were learnin' in
Was there somethin' that
Made you come back again?
And what could ever lead you
(What could ever lead you)
Back here where we need you?
(Back here where we need you?)
Yeah, we tease him a lot
'Cause we got him on the spot
Welcome back
Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back
Welcome back, welcome back
Yeah, we tease him a lot
(Welcome back, welcome back)
'Cause we got him on the spot
(Welcome back, welcome back)
Yeah, we tease him a lot
'Cause we got him on the spot
Welcome back
Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back
Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back
Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back
 
MT~Forged said:
That is the problem with message board convos. You just have to accept that and WE have to try to explain ourselves better.

I am sure I misinterpreted your meaning, just as you are mine.
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If you haven’t reached the conclusion on the following three things I’m afraid I cannot help you:
A) The Steeler majority owner Arthur Rooney II is an incompetent owner who has no idea how to orchestrate a winner and by winner I’m not referring to non losing seasons being above the league mean.
B) The franchise has a GM who it’s obvious does not have the experience to have been given this job. He lacks scouting and player experience never having even served as an assistant GM. He’s a bean counter, a Capologist, a good one but not a GM.
C) The team is saddled with a very overrated and mediocre head coach. Never bad enough to have his team finish with losing records but never good enough to help build a championship caliber team.
Given far too much authority in helping Kahn construct the roster.
This is where we are in 2025 and it starts at the top. Just look at what’s happening with this Rodgers debacle. A good owner would never allow his team to be humiliated like this especially from some narcissistic attention grabbing over the hill player.
That’s where we are as careers are being wasted in TJ, Minkah, and Hayward.
 
Lunar said:
Welcome back
Your dreams were your ticket out
Welcome back
To that same old place that you laughed about
Well, the names have all changed
Since you hung around
But those dreams have remained
And they've turned around
Who'd have thought they'd lead you
(Who'd have thought they'd lead you)
Back here where we need you?
(Back here where we need you?)
Yeah, we tease him a lot
'Cause we got him on the spot
Welcome back
Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back
Welcome back, welcome back
Welcome back
We always could spot a friend
Welcome back
And I smile when I think how you must have been
And I know what a scene
You were learnin' in
Was there somethin' that
Made you come back again?
And what could ever lead you
(What could ever lead you)
Back here where we need you?
(Back here where we need you?)
Yeah, we tease him a lot
'Cause we got him on the spot
Welcome back
Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back
Welcome back, welcome back
And I know what a scene
You were learnin' in
Was there somethin' that
Made you come back again?
And what could ever lead you
(What could ever lead you)
Back here where we need you?
(Back here where we need you?)
Yeah, we tease him a lot
'Cause we got him on the spot
Welcome back
Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back
Welcome back, welcome back
Yeah, we tease him a lot
(Welcome back, welcome back)
'Cause we got him on the spot
(Welcome back, welcome back)
Yeah, we tease him a lot
'Cause we got him on the spot
Welcome back
Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back
Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back
Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back
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MT~Forged said:
After watching Howard at the combine, I would only consider him as an UDFA
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I would partially ignore the combine. Guys have bad days. I wouldn't take him the first or second, but I would consider him late 3rd or fourth. I am not sure what to think of Dart but I like Shough from the third on.
 
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