Mike tomlin and his race card

[Steelerfan]

Y'all are racist crackas, I tell ya

 

[Lmob0621]

Y'all are racist crackas, I tell ya

Now nobody will believe that this board is cracka-lackin'

 

[SteelChip]

Now nobody will believe that this board is cracka-lackin'

Thanks, it's nice for us to know we're appreciated.

 

[Drink IRON City]

I eat "female" Crakas !!!!! AND it's appreciated



Salute the nation

 

[Booted]

shut up already, you have bigger problems than race baiting.

He said on pregame show that people calling him a "players coach" is an insult to his age and his race. And he's sick of it.

Mike just bought himself a few extra years as Head Coach with that comment. Tomlin, you're a genius!

 

[Xc944]

shut up already, you have bigger problems than race baiting.

He said on pregame show that people calling him a "players coach" is an insult to his age and his race. And he's sick of it.

Now I will just call him a ****** coach and the problem is solved

 

[Steel Ballin]

Link to interview??

 

[Wingman]

I have never cared one **** what his race is. I did not like him initially because he did not seem to have it, no clock management, no look of understanding on the sidelines just bewilderment. His drafts were bad. We had much the same team of coaches with Cowher and they drafted talent overall, yes there were some goofs but more good than bad. MT might have been getting better, he might have been getting lucky but I liked this past draft better than most lately. His latest out burst however makes me think he is not getting it and is making excuses. I think now he is in fact a racist and feels that the color of his skin makes him special. The things that make someone special are beneath the skin, unless you are a model or an actor, or television personality for them it is all skin deep.

MT may be apt for this guy as it seems like it describes the contents of his head, which is below the skin and not racist at all.

 

[Rod Farva]

Oh no he ditint? *******......

 

[Bigappleyinzer]

Some interesting comments in here...

Tomlin never mentioned anything regarding racism. He said that because of his age and race, i.e. looking similar to the players, people tend to call him a players coach. Despite the fact the he views himself the opposite. Wast it documented that Tomlin was running the players into the ground during practices/training camps his first 2 years, and was told to lay off? How would this behavior be considered a players coach?

I will be honest- I would have rather him answered differently. But I can understand how he would be frustrated with some of the slick questions/comments he hears in Western PA. Just look at how many posters are projecting their 'feelings'. He merely mentions race and you guys get your panties in a bunch.

 

[Vader]

Tomlin never mentioned anything regarding racism. He said that because of his age and race, i.e. looking similar to the players, people tend to call him a players coach. Despite the fact the he views himself the opposite. Wast it documented that Tomlin was running the players into the ground during practices/training camps his first 2 years, and was told to lay off? How would this behavior be considered a players coach?

Where did you get that? That isn't what he said at all:

“That is the first I ever heard if it,” Ed Bouchette of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette said on Monday’s PFT Live. “He also mentioned young coach too, that kind of took that as a not an insult, but he wasn’t real happy with people calling him a players’ coach because he thought it was a little racist and because he was a young coach. There were times Bill Cowher was considered a players’ coach here, and I never thought of it as being a bad thing. Maybe he takes it as such, maybe he thinks people believe he’s coddling the players, which is not the case, I don’t think, any more than Bill Cowher coddled players. I was a little surprised by that.”

To make his point, Tomlin said the defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau could be called a “players’ coach,” too, but that he isn’t because LeBeau is an “old white guy.”

He is clearly talking about racism.

 

[Bigappleyinzer]

Where did you get that? That isn't what he said at all:



He is clearly talking about racism.

Explain to me how he is clearly talking about racism?

He mentions that he looks like the players and is not much older than them, which leads people to believe that he is a players coach. Hard to label him Al Sharpton after this innocuous statement...

Lebeau looks nothing like his players and is about 100 years old- people would never label him as a players coach, yet we have heard differently from several players. Also a pretty obvious point.

Its just funny that MT has never even mentioned the word racism- despite all of the thinly veiled racist crap he has heard out in the burgh. But this rather harmless comment, NOW somehow 'offends' everyone

 

[Vader]

Explain to me how he is clearly talking about racism?

He mentions that he looks like the players and is not much older than them, which leads people to believe that he is a players coach. Hard to label him Al Sharpton after this innocuous statement...

Lebeau looks nothing like his players and is about 100 years old- people would never label him as a players coach, yet we have heard differently from several players. Also a pretty obvious point.

Its just funny that MT has never even mentioned the word racism- despite all of the thinly veiled racist crap he has heard out in the burgh. But this rather harmless comment, NOW somehow 'offends' everyone

Doesn't offend me in the least. I noticed how you talked about age with LeBeau but didn't mention the race. It was obvious to anyone that he was talking about racism because LeBeau is WHITE. He said so. So if he is saying he doesn't like that term because of age and RACE then says LeBeau isn't called that term because he is WHITE then how is that not racism? Of course LeBeau doesn't look like players because of his age but there are white players in the league right?

I also see how you love to throw in the "thinly veiled racist crap" into your argument. Like you have the ability to read people's minds. You don't like what people say so you transpose race into the mix to invalidate a point that isn't even being made.

 

[JupiterBnG]

Explain to me how he is clearly talking about racism?

He mentions that he looks like the players and is not much older than them, which leads people to believe that he is a players coach. Hard to label him Al Sharpton after this innocuous statement...

Lebeau looks nothing like his players and is about 100 years old- people would never label him as a players coach, yet we have heard differently from several players. Also a pretty obvious point.

Its just funny that MT has never even mentioned the word racism- despite all of the thinly veiled racist crap he has heard out in the burgh. But this rather harmless comment, NOW somehow 'offends' everyone

Because "old white guy" has nothing to do with race. Got it.

 

[SteelBuckeye]

What's funny to me is the interplay between "liberal" and "conservative" viewpoints on this issue. You have conservatives crying "reverse racism" or "the race card" and liberals crying "if you see racism in his statement it's you that's the racist". I can see how his statement could be interpreted by those that were looking for something to complain about as playing the race card. Don't believe Tomlin meant it that way. And again, I could give a damn about his socio-political thoughts. What are you going to do about the penalties, second half apathy, poor play calls, soft defense (players and coach)? I'll listen to Tomlin about those things and judge his statements about "football" by any results or lack thereof that come.

Listening to Tomlin as if what he has to say provides some moral compass on race? Not so much.

 

[hardcore12]

This guy may set us back 20 years with this pathetic childish race comments. No doubt as he continues to show how bad of a coach he really is that he will be in our players ears taking about how the city wants him our because he's black. Our young men will buy into this and turn on the city declaring we are a racist city. Etc... One man will tear down 40 years of greatness all because he's black and playing a race card. I'm so glad Bradshaw fired back at him ... I expect others to do the same

 

[Bigappleyinzer]

Doesn't offend me in the least. I noticed how you talked about age with LeBeau but didn't mention the race. It was obvious to anyone that he was talking about racism because LeBeau is WHITE. He said so. So if he is saying he doesn't like that term because of age and RACE then says LeBeau isn't called that term because he is WHITE then how is that not racism? Of course LeBeau doesn't look like players because of his age but there are white players in the league right?

I also see how you love to throw in the "thinly veiled racist crap" into your argument. Like you have the ability to read people's minds. You don't like what people say so you transpose race into the mix to invalidate a point that isn't even being made.

I never mentioned race for either Tomlin OR Lebeau. I said MT looks like the players while DL does not.

Sure there are white coaches who could pass for players- but its hard to make that correlation when ~70% of the NFL is black.

Lastly, you pretend as if I am making up this "thinly veiled racist crap" :
http://gawker.com/5947068/the-most-racist-city-in-america-pittsburgh

http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/09/how-racist-are-we-ask-google/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

The state with the highest racially charged search rate in the country was West Virginia. Other areas with high percentages included western Pennsylvania, eastern Ohio, upstate New York and southern Mississippi.

Have you even lived in the area before?

 

[JupiterBnG]

I never mentioned race for either Tomlin OR Lebeau. I said MT looks like the players while DL does not.

Who in the world honestly believes that the term "players' coach" is assigned to anyone because they "look like the players?"

Seriously, no one. Being a "players' coach" has nothing to do with age, race or appearance; it has everything to do with your attitude and approach to the job of coaching, and whether you are considered strict or lenient from a players' perspective.

 

[Vader]

I never mentioned race for either Tomlin OR Lebeau. I said MT looks like the players while DL does not.

Sure there are white coaches who could pass for players- but its hard to make that correlation when ~70% of the NFL is black.

Lastly, you pretend as if I am making up this "thinly veiled racist crap" :
http://gawker.com/5947068/the-most-racist-city-in-america-pittsburgh

http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/09/how-racist-are-we-ask-google/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0


Have you even lived in the area before?

I don't live in Pittsburgh and I have no idea what type of metric Gawker uses to determine "racists" towns. In today's world just saying "I want voter ID cards" makes you a racist. The LeBeau reference is the main point. LeBeau doesn't look like NFL players because of his age. BUT he does look like players because of his skin color. There is a higher percentage of white players in the NFL than there are blacks in the general population. As a matter of fact there is 3 times as many white players in the NFL as there are black people in the population. So the correlation should be easily made.

 

[Wingman]

I never mentioned race for either Tomlin OR Lebeau. I said MT looks like the players while DL does not.

Sure there are white coaches who could pass for players- but its hard to make that correlation when ~70% of the NFL is black.

Lastly, you pretend as if I am making up this "thinly veiled racist crap" :
http://gawker.com/5947068/the-most-racist-city-in-america-pittsburgh

http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/09/how-racist-are-we-ask-google/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0


Have you even lived in the area before?

Just to be clear define what the highest racially charged search rate is that you are referring to.

 

[Troglodyte]

Mike just bought himself a few extra years as Head Coach with that comment. Tomlin, you're a genius!

I don't recall the Rooney's having ever been critical of Tomlin. I think the soonest we would see would be January of 2016 and I suspect "minority candidate" would be priority 1A in their search for his replacement.

 

[t-man]

I've never seen a guy get this much **** for stating a fact.

I mean, really, how many times have we seen someone here go on about him being buddy buddy with his players based solely on, well, on what exactly? On the fact he had Casey Hampton on the PUP list running ******* laps his first year here? Does that strike you as a players coach? Lance Moore said they had more live practices here in training camp than he's EVER seen, yeah, players coach. How about the fact he benched every damn running back that fumbled the damn ball during that one game, to the point where he was OUT OF RUNNING BACKS. Players coach? (And he caught a LOT of **** from people here saying that was "dumb" and "too hard on a player")

Yeah, makes perfect sense.

Joe

 

[DBS1970]

The coach of the sub par team that shamed us is black. Lovie Smith will build a winner in Tampa and I am sure of it. I am not sure Mr Tomlin can build our Steelers back into a winner.I wonder is Tampa would do a black coach for a black coach swap? If that won't work I think we should drive a dump truck full of money up to Tony Dungys house and see if we can lure him out of retirement, he is a great coach who happens to be black. Mr Tomlin is a black man who happens to be a mediocre coach.

 

[oicu8ad]

The coach of the sub par team that shamed us is black. Lovie Smith will build a winner in Tampa and I am sure of it. I am not sure Mr Tomlin can build our Steelers back into a winner.I wonder is Tampa would do a black coach for a black coach swap? If that won't work I think we should drive a dump truck full of money up to Tony Dungys house and see if we can lure him out of retirement, he is a great coach who happens to be black. Mr Tomlin is a black man who happens to be a mediocre coach.

I'd trade Tomlin for Lovie so fast it aint even funny. One knows football, the other speaks like he does.

 

[antdrewjosh]

I've never seen a guy get this much **** for stating a fact.

I mean, really, how many times have we seen someone here go on about him being buddy buddy with his players based solely on, well, on what exactly? On the fact he had Casey Hampton on the PUP list running ******* laps his first year here? Does that strike you as a players coach? Lance Moore said they had more live practices here in training camp than he's EVER seen, yeah, players coach. How about the fact he benched every damn running back that fumbled the damn ball during that one game, to the point where he was OUT OF RUNNING BACKS. Players coach? (And he caught a LOT of **** from people here saying that was "dumb" and "too hard on a player")

Yeah, makes perfect sense.

Joe

Dont forget calling out Wallace to improve his game beyond a deep threat, calling out Willie Parker for being selfish, putting guys on a board in the locker room for when they screwed up, benching Holmes, benching Mendenhall.