MNF

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QB1
64% completion percentage
7.6 YPA
2 to 1 TD/INT ratio
93 Rating

QB2
64
7.7
3 to 1
100

One of these QB also averaged 1000 yards and 6 TD rushing

In my next post, I will detail how far King Henry has fallen off since last season. It must be all the carries he's getting this year.

QB 3
65
7.7
4 to 1
103

3 QB
2 of them are HoF
1 of them is "run first"
Which QB do you choose, based on stats and rating

 

[madinsomniac]

I don't think you get that posts are "archived,” as you call it

And I don't see a response to my QB comparison. I'll wait for your 1000 word thesis

You are a dope and I'll continue slapping you around when you talk dope things.

Your QB " comparison" has zero context and means nothing.

All you have done is get pissy and defensive because I pointed out Lamar is still a QB that runs too much and no qb who does what he does has ever won anything and has a short career compared to pocket passers

 

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Your QB " comparison" has zero context and means nothing.

All you have done is get pissy and defensive because I pointed out Lamar is still a QB that runs too much and no qb who does what he does has ever won anything and has a short career compared to pocket passers

I'm neither pissy nor defensive just calling out the smelly fertilizer you try to pass off as fact.

Watson doesn't need another contract because of his legal issues
Henry leads the league at his position
Jackson leads the league at his position and is nothing like corky or Cam

You ignored the QB comparison because it made your prunish head implode

None of this changes because you post anonymous nonsense on the web. I'll be here to call you out every week through January hopefully

 

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I think Lamar Jackson is a better QB than most around here give him credit for. Sure, he runs. It's an asset, why not use it? That said, I don't see him as "run first." I seem to remember several fans around here wanting to keep Fields in the line-up because he COULD run. I even remember people pointing out during the game the open spaces that Fields could have picked up a first when Wilson decided NOT to run. So is running bad or good? Seems it depends on the QB that is the subject of the discussion.

Agree. The ideal QB used to be 6'5 250 statue with a big, accurate arm. Things have changed a lot. Look at top 3 QB today

Mahomes
Allen
Jackson

They murder defenses with their arms and legs. It's frustrating to see them pickup 1st downs with their legs when the secondary is playing kifhts out. But that's the game today and every team is looking for a QB who can do both

Fields can get there if he continues to put in the work.

 

[madinsomniac]

I'm neither pissy nor defensive just calling out the smelly fertilizer you try to pass off as fact.

Watson doesn't need another contract because of his legal issues
Henry leads the league at his position
Jackson leads the league at his position and is nothing like corky or Cam

You ignored the QB comparison because it made your prunish head implode

None of this changes because you post anonymous nonsense on the web. I'll be here to call you out every week through January hopefully

1. How many NFL qbs who run 25% of the time have won a superbowl?
2. How many NFL rbs have sustained success after 29?

I think your opinion of your debating skills are wayyyy off of how the general board views them.

And I get why Ravens fans defend Lamar.., but it doesnt change that no team is coming into Baltimore with a pass first defense to stop them.. Lamar passes against Run first Ds 95% of the time... even on third downs... he doesnt face two deep safeties... nobody confuses him for mahomes or Burrow...

 

[slashsteel]

Agree. The ideal QB used to be 6'5 250 statue with a big, accurate arm. Things have changed a lot. Look at top 3 QB today

Mahomes
Allen
Jackson

They murder defenses with their arms and legs. It's frustrating to see them pickup 1st downs with their legs when the secondary is playing kifhts out. But that's the game today and every team is looking for a QB who can do both

Fields can get there if he continues to put in the work.

Action Jackson won’t ever be a pure passer. He has improved over time passing but still a runner playing QB. There is a reason Steelers struggle with two out of the three. But usually beat LJ.

 

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1. How many NFL qbs who run 25% of the time have won a superbowl?
2. How many NFL rbs have sustained success after 29?

I think your opinion of your debating skills are wayyyy off of how the general board views them.

And I get why Ravens fans defend Lamar.., but it doesnt change that no team is coming into Baltimore with a pass first defense to stop them.. Lamar passes against Run first Ds 95% of the time... even on third downs... he doesnt face two deep safeties... nobody confuses him for mahomes or Burrow...

I don't know the answers to your questions. I don't see the relevance

How is what happened yesterday relevant to what will happen today or tomorrow in this context? Answer this question. No tangents.

What does the opinion of a small sample size of people matter as it relates to reflecting truth or reality? Answer, no tangents.

What does Ravens fans defending Lamar have to do with anything we've discussed so far? Answer, no tangents.

What is a "pass first" defense?

You can't answer any of these questions without wandering into a different zip code because you're full of *****.

In your mind, I must be a ravens fan because I disagreed with your assessment that Jackson is "run first"

You continue to argue that players will lose the ability to play & pretend that you can predict when based on the track record of past players. Who cares? You don't know when Henry won't be able to play NFL level but you do know that he is killing it now.

You continue to argue that Jackson is not a good QB when he has been league MVP twice already and he's in the conversation for a 3rd MVP awards. Part of your support for this argument is that he will be unable to play in a couple years.

You compare Jackson to Corky and Cam and don't dare address his passing stats through 5 or 6 seasons because you know they're comparable to a couple of HoF QB. Add the stats from his legs and he blows them away.

You have scrambled **** & shitaki for brains, sir. You smell. I'm going to be here to call you out.

 

[madinsomniac]

I don't know the answers to your questions. I don't see the relevance

How is what happened yesterday relevant to what will happen today or tomorrow in this context? Answer this question. No tangents.

What does the opinion of a small sample size of people matter as it relates to reflecting truth or reality? Answer, no tangents.

What does Ravens fans defending Lamar have to do with anything we've discussed so far? Answer, no tangents.

What is a "pass first" defense?

You can't answer any of these questions without wandering into a different zip code because you're full of *****.

In your mind, I must be a ravens fan because I disagreed with your assessment that Jackson is "run first"

You continue to argue that players will lose the ability to play & pretend that you can predict when based on the track record of past players. Who cares? You don't know when Henry won't be able to play NFL level but you do know that he is killing it now.

You continue to argue that Jackson is not a good QB when he has been league MVP twice already and he's in the conversation for a 3rd MVP awards. Part of your support for this argument is that he will be unable to play in a couple years.

You compare Jackson to Corky and Cam and don't dare address his passing stats through 5 or 6 seasons because you know they're comparable to a couple of HoF QB. Add the stats from his legs and he blows them away.

You have scrambled **** & shitaki for brains, sir. You smell. I'm going to be here to call you out.

Once more, there are different types of QBs

Tom Brady was a pure pocket Passer. His career high in rushing attempts was 49. He stepped up in the pocket, and rarely ran. His career rush% was 5.4

Ben Rothlisberger was a scrambler... he was a pocket passer who rarely ran... his career high was 54 attempt, but like brady was usually between 20-30. However, he often extended plays to buy time for receivers to come open... his career rush % was 5.7

Patrick Mahomes is a mobile QB. He can be a pocket passer or play from outside the pocket. His career high in rushing attempts in a season is 75... because when he is scrambling, he is still looking to pass... he runs on 9.6% of his plays

Russel Wilson is at the upper end of mobile qbs.., he once ran for 118 attempts in a season, though his average is closer to the mid 80's... he runs on 14.7% of his touches

Josh Allen runs 17.2% of tge time... and that might be too much

Then you have Lamar... his career average is running 29.9% of tge time he gets the ball and isnt sacked or hands it off... though the past couple years he has been down around 25%...

Its insanely high...

And at nonpoint did i say he was bad at being a QB.. I said he is a run first QB and that they style doesnt win in the postseason and it leads to shorter careers

PS Kordell made a pro bowl and was 4th in league MVP voting the season before Cowher benched him for Tommy Maddox.. because he wanted a better Passer from the pocket...

Cam Newton won a league MVP...

Raven fans hate those comparisons for some reason...

 

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Once more, there are different types of QBs

Tom Brady was a pure pocket Passer. His career high in rushing attempts was 49. He stepped up in the pocket, and rarely ran. His career rush% was 5.4

Ben Rothlisberger was a scrambler... he was a pocket passer who rarely ran... his career high was 54 attempt, but like brady was usually between 20-30. However, he often extended plays to buy time for receivers to come open... his career rush % was 5.7

Patrick Mahomes is a mobile QB. He can be a pocket passer or play from outside the pocket. His career high in rushing attempts in a season is 75... because when he is scrambling, he is still looking to pass... he runs on 9.6% of his plays

Russel Wilson is at the upper end of mobile qbs.., he once ran for 118 attempts in a season, though his average is closer to the mid 80's... he runs on 14.7% of his touches

Josh Allen runs 17.2% of tge time... and that might be too much

Then you have Lamar... his career average is running 29.9% of tge time he gets the ball and isnt sacked or hands it off... though the past couple years he has been down around 25%...

Its insanely high...

And at nonpoint did i say he was bad at being a QB.. I said he is a run first QB and that they style doesnt win in the postseason and it leads to shorter careers

PS Kordell made a pro bowl and was 4th in league MVP voting the season before Cowher benched him for Tommy Maddox.. because he wanted a better Passer from the pocket...

Cam Newton won a league MVP...

Raven fans hate those comparisons for some reason...

Hey buddy I don't have time to read all this nonsense but check out the stat comparisons between Rodgers, Ben, Jackson. Rodgers edges Jackson who edges Ben. Admittedly half the sample size from Jackson and no playoff success.

Control your emotions. Look at the facts. Players shouldn't have to wear the B&G for you to respect and appreciate them. Jackson is a rival and one of the top 3 QB in the league. Henry may be the best back in the league whether he is Titan or Raven. Get your head out of your ***

Also send over the lotto numbers

 

[BLITZ]

Why does this board attract closet Raven fans

 

[JMM]

Why does this board attract closet Raven fans

Do we smell?

 

[slashsteel]

Hey buddy I don't have time to read all this nonsense but check out the stat comparisons between Rodgers, Ben, Jackson. Rodgers edges Jackson who edges Ben. Admittedly half the sample size from Jackson and no playoff success.

Control your emotions. Look at the facts. Players shouldn't have to wear the B&G for you to respect and appreciate them. Jackson is a rival and one of the top 3 QB in the league. Henry may be the best back in the league whether he is Titan or Raven. Get your head out of your ***

Also send over the lotto numbers

This one is a real pr!ck.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Not sure if I mentioned this, but **** the rats. For some reason I don’t like them…………


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I found a brief moment / reason to actually like them. I'm in a "41" pool (cost $34.00 for the year). Random drawn each week who your team is and if that teram scores 41 or over, you win. There was no ties this week so I won like $67.00, swo I'm in the winning money colum.

NOW, back to not liking them.!!!!


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