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Have a serious question. Who is better Pickett or Rudolph. Between the two I have been more of a fan of MR. Not so sure with KP. Thanks.
 
Better arm Mason, better as a pure pocket passer Mason. Better at getting out of the pocket and moving, Kenny until he does it too much, but he can do it. Kenny could do everything Mason does and add an element of mobility. Will he, is the question. If I had the best line in the game and incredible receivers, I would be fine riding with Mason. We have an improving but still mediocre line and need more WR's. I let them battle is Mason returns, but I think Kenny's mobility trumps Mason's slightly stronger arm if he gets comfortable again in the pocket. Something it took Mason awhile to figure out, but he didn't have enough lateral mobility to survive as well as Kenny, ala the KO in '19 against the Ratbirds.
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
Better arm Mason, better as a pure pocket passer Mason. Better at getting out of the pocket and moving, Kenny until he does it too much, but he can do it. Kenny could do everything Mason does and add an element of mobility. Will he, is the question. If I had the best line in the game and incredible receivers, I would be fine riding with Mason. We have an improving but still mediocre line and need more WR's. I let them battle is Mason returns, but I think Kenny's mobility trumps Mason's slightly stronger arm if he gets comfortable again in the pocket. Something it took Mason awhile to figure out, but he didn't have enough lateral mobility to survive as well as Kenny, ala the KO in '19 against the Ratbirds.
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Mason isn’t the same QB he was back in 19’. He has worked hard to overcome a lot. 3 games is a small sample size so there is that.

Kenny on the other hand has a larger sample size and part of that is injury prone.

I’m not argueing either way as I don’t think Mason will be back. If he does return it would be a “FOOL’s” game to think there would be a Fair competition between the two.


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Mason has over 5 years of training at the pro level. A very small sample size of actual play.Kenny has like a full season.

So far it doesn't look good for Kenny and I'm really hoping this offseason something clicks.

If not they'll be drafting another qb after next season.

I would definitely try to keep Mason. He could very well be starting sometime next season. Maybe they bring in a free agent too.
 
Gun to my head, I pick KP and hope for potential as we pretty much know mason's ceiling
 
If both reached their potential, Pickett. Right now based on performance, Rudolph. Dulac is reporting there is an internal disagreement within the organization about who should start next season.
 
SteelerFan448 said:
If both reached their potential, Pickett. Right now based on performance, Rudolph. Dulac is reporting there is an internal disagreement within the organization about who should start next season.
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he has been wrong a lot.
 
Steelr4evr said:
Mason has over 5 years of training at the pro level. A very small sample size of actual play.Kenny has like a full season.

So far it doesn't look good for Kenny and I'm really hoping this offseason something clicks.

If not they'll be drafting another qb after next season.

I would definitely try to keep Mason. He could very well be starting sometime next season. Maybe they bring in a free agent too.
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They were both good in the small sample size that was the post Canada era last year. Both looked very similar in starts before that, with similar winning percentages. Canada was basically a Fichtner clone aside from more Jet sweeps. Both were the two most predictable OC's I have ever seen. I figured Canada couldn't possibly be worse. I got that one wrong.
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
he has been wrong a lot.
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I wouldn't put it past the guy to flat out make crap up. Too often he is way off.

Anywho that room ended unsettled, no reason for me to think they won't at least initially remain that way unless they take significant steps to alter that viewpoint.

I wouldn't be surprised if It is Kenny and Tannehill signed as a relief pitcher. Knowing their usual approach they won't trade for a guy, or sign a high priced addition. I think Rudy takes some money and runs. Which leaves the room unsettled once again...
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
he has been wrong a lot.
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Most of his reporting is guess work, he doesn't have an actual source. He assumes there is probably disagreement within the organization so he just reports it based on percentage of possibility. He's kind of a POS
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
Better arm Mason, better as a pure pocket passer Mason. Better at getting out of the pocket and moving, Kenny until he does it too much, but he can do it. Kenny could do everything Mason does and add an element of mobility. Will he, is the question. If I had the best line in the game and incredible receivers, I would be fine riding with Mason. We have an improving but still mediocre line and need more WR's. I let them battle is Mason returns, but I think Kenny's mobility trumps Mason's slightly stronger arm if he gets comfortable again in the pocket. Something it took Mason awhile to figure out, but he didn't have enough lateral mobility to survive as well as Kenny, ala the KO in '19 against the Ratbirds.
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Kenny has a much stronger arm than Mason. Mason is a noodle-arm. He floats passes too much. See the INT in the endzone that ended the playoff game.

Mason is much more of a precision passer. Mason anticipates, especially across the middle, much better than Kenny.
 
SteveA said:
:nono::nono::nono: The whole football world “thought” they knew Rudy’s ceiling now didn’t they?
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It is exactly what I saw last season, a good backup with the capacity to win if with a good game plan in a low score affair.
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
They were both good in the small sample size that was the post Canada era last year. Both looked very similar in starts before that, with similar winning percentages. Canada was basically a Fichtner clone aside from more Jet sweeps. Both were the two most predictable OC's I have ever seen. I figured Canada couldn't possibly be worse. I got that one wrong.
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Oh the Steelers offense has been absolutely trash for 4-5 years.

The only time it's has looked really good was in the 2 min offense.
I take that back, the running this year really took a big step forward. If they can get a stud Center and another OT , it could be dominant. They need to be dominant on the line. The same goes for that DL. That 2 DL is ******* stupid. And that bend don't break **** blows as well.
 
SteelerFan448 said:
If both reached their potential, Pickett. Right now based on performance, Rudolph. Dulac is reporting there is an internal disagreement within the organization about who should start next season.
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Not much of a discussion right now since Rudolph is no longer on the team. They will have to sign him before ANY discussion can be had.
 
SteveA said:
:nono::nono::nono: The whole football world “thought” they knew Rudy’s ceiling now didn’t they?
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I was happy that it went higher than I had thought. It is great to be wrong when the team benefits. It is just a shame that it didn't carry over to a playoff win. Still good for him. Let him prove everyone wrong, except for when he plays the Steelers. If he does...
 
MT~Forged said:
Not much of a discussion right now since Rudolph is no longer on the team. They will have to sign him before ANY discussion can be had.
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Free agency doesn’t start until March and I would think the time between now and the. would be perfect to decide if you think either should be the starter if that’s actually a decision. If it’s Mason, then you’ll give him a pretty good contract to return.
 
steelreeling said:
Kenny has a much stronger arm than Mason. Mason is a noodle-arm. He floats passes too much. See the INT in the endzone that ended the playoff game.

Mason is much more of a precision passer. Mason anticipates, especially across the middle, much better than Kenny.
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I am not so sure about that. I think that was mental not physical on that throw. I have never heard someone say that Kenny has a stronger arm than Mason. Mason has an above average arm where Kenny's is just average. Which is fine if he plays smart. You might want to go watch Mason's college tape again. Precision was what everyone was hating him for lacking, supposedly, in 2019.
 
I’d be surprised if Mason doesn’t return. He was a FA last year and came back to be the 3rd QB. Why wouldn’t he be interested in returning after finishing the season as the starter?
 
MT~Forged said:
Not much of a discussion right now since Rudolph is no longer on the team. They will have to sign him before ANY discussion can be had.
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