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MSN takes no prisoners with Tomlin

That’s an interesting read for sure. More and more fans are seeing exactly what most here have said for quite some time.
Curry and Brown more than likely didn’t share the same philosophy as Coach Greatness and just maybe that led to the miscommunication issues the defense experienced. Who knows but I do know this train has left the station and has gone off the rails. Cho Cho!
 
str8liner said:
Better late than never I guess. Some of us have been wanting him gone for years.

Seriously, I remember a few years after the 2010 SB loss thinking "this guy ain't gonna cut it anymore....."
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I pissed people off for saying that he was going to be outcoached in that SB, and lose. He was easy to see through even back then.
 
Outstanding article, and it articulates what I ranted about in another thread upon hearing the Steelers let Brown walk much better than what tried to convey. The difference between a paid author and an internet keyboard warrior whose tired of Mike's bullshit. :ROFLMAO:
 
That article is tripe, built around a speculative tweet by Kaboly. Nonsense, start to finish.
 
Outstanding article, and it articulates what I ranted about in another thread upon hearing the Steelers let Brown walk much better than what tried to convey. The difference between a paid author and an internet keyboard warrior whose tired of Mike's bullshit. :ROFLMAO:
Sarge said:
That article is tripe, built around a speculative tweet by Kaboly. Nonsense, start to finish.
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Well, I liked it! so, there!!! :ROFLMAO:
 
Even after we won the SB i was not a fan. He was a young coach so i gave him the benefit of the doubt. The same issues back then we still have today and some things have gotten worse. Multiple players on multiple teams keep saying how we just do the same stuff over and over. We are using old concepts with no creativity on D. Offense is beyond conservative then hope to pull a rabbit out of the hat at the end of the game. I just do not get people's fascination with Tomlin
 
jitter77 said:
Even after we won the SB i was not a fan. He was a young coach so i gave him the benefit of the doubt. The same issues back then we still have today and some things have gotten worse. Multiple players on multiple teams keep saying how we just do the same stuff over and over. We are using old concepts with no creativity on D. Offense is beyond conservative then hope to pull a rabbit out of the hat at the end of the game. I just do not get people's fascination with Tomlin
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And it's not likely he'll change. Mike Tomlin knows what he knows. He won a Super Bowl and a bunch of regular season games doing what he does. He's a media darling for never having a losing season. He ain't changing ****. To his mind, changing anything is bad because what he is doing is working. I'm still stunned the light didn't come on after the offensive performance against Cincy. From there, I think he went MORE conservative.

I think it will take two seasons of losing records of like 5 wins or less to even get him to CONSIDER changing.

The Steelers under Mike Tomlin will be what they have been. A 8-10 win team with no shot in the playoffs.
 
Sarge said:
And it's not likely he'll change. Mike Tomlin knows what he knows. He won a Super Bowl and a bunch of regular season games doing what he does. He's a media darling for never having a losing season. He ain't changing ****. To his mind, changing anything is bad because what he is doing is working. I'm still stunned the light didn't come on after the offensive performance against Cincy. From there, I think he went MORE conservative.

I think it will take two seasons of losing records of like 5 wins or less to even get him to CONSIDER changing.

The Steelers under Mike Tomlin will be what they have been. A 8-10 win team with no shot in the playoffs.
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Actually he didn't win a Super Bowl doing what he does, he was young, had a Super Bowl ready team, with an all time great DC and a well known OC, Tomlin didn't get in the way, he let them run their schemes and plays. He won a Super Bowl doing the exact opposite of what he does.
 
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Coryea said:
Actually he didn't win a Super Bowl doing what he does, he was young, had a Super Bowl ready team, with an all time great DC and a well knows OC, Tomlin didn't get in the way, he let them run their schemes and plays. He won a Super Bowl doing the exact opposite of what he does.
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Ok, well then he won a bunch of regular season games. Point is still valid. He's not going to change. He wants to be the winningest coach in Steelers history.
 
slashsteel said:
He does the right thing…. For his pockets.

If fans think Rooney will do anything with Mike… I have some bad news for yinz.
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I’m not convinced about the part having to do with filling his pockets.
I believe he wants badly to hoist the Lombardi like his dad and grandfather did before him…and for the city that he loves dearly.

I don’t think he wants leave this world having the distinction of being the first Rooney in charge to have failed to win a SB.

I’m certain that in his heart he believes Tomlin remains the right guy despite the long drought. He will point to the winning seasons, and the fact that it is extremely difficult to win a Super Bowl, and the fact that he is very well aware that Tomlin is highly respected outside of Pittsburgh, and would get snatched up the moment he was fired.

That being said, I’m hoping that the increasing criticism against him and the increasing criticism of Tomlin coming from outside of Pittsburgh (and that billboard) will cause him to rethink his position and for him do the right thing.
But sadly I’m not counting on it.
 
Far too much credit has been given to Tomlin for that SB win. Look at it objectively and ask yourself how a very young inexperienced coach could win a SB in his second season. Come on be real! This team was ready made for anyone coming in to reap success and it happened to be Tomlin.
And please don’t give me the lame *** excuse about Cowher having an 8-8 season in 2006. Not unless you’re willing to mention that the franchise QB was coming off a motorcycle accident that was life threatening and an emergency appendicitis surgery. In addition to that 2006 team having some significant injuries.
Far too much credit given to Tomlin for that SB win in 2008. All he had to do is stay the hellnout of the way and let the coordinators do their jobs.
Also, another note that has been forgotten was that after his first season in 2007 the veterans went to Coach greatness telling him he didn’t need to run them as hard as he did in training camp the previous year. They reminded him they were veterans and knew what was expected of them.
I remember that back then.
 
Sarge said:
Ok, well then he won a bunch of regular season games. Point is still valid. He's not going to change. He wants to be the winningest coach in Steelers history.
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Oh I totally agree with you. He'll still be the 3rd, a distant 3rd, best coach in Steelers history even if he does get the record
 
Djfan said:
They are beginning to see things.

Link to article here.
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Nice find and post Djfan, appreciate yaz.

Coach Tomlin appears to have sealed himself off from the customer. You see this a lot in the business world and a company can survive for awhile, as Tomlin has shown. I think he is becoming a tired product in the eyes of the customers and they are opening their eyes wide.

I could never wish bad on my beloved Steelers, but it seems our beloved Steelers are being taken away from us slowly and intently. The perfect storm has arisen in the combination of Art 2 & his say the right thing Coach Tomlin. They have been both believing in the greatness they read and have ended up Tomlinized, without them even realizing what has happened.

Bill Cowher checked his ego, looked at what was best for the team and himself. He chose the right way, leaving arrogance out of the decision making.

Mike Tomlin may believe he can do this, but arrogance is lapping at his side not allowing him to resign. Art 2 is to enamored by being ahead of the means, and rolling in the money ahead of schedule, any business man would do that as well. 31 other teams strive for that scenario continuously.

Neither of them see as anything being wrong or broken and have adopted….. “you can’t fix what isn’t broke”.

Salute the nation
 
Sarge said:
That article is tripe, built around a speculative tweet by Kaboly. Nonsense, start to finish.
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I couldn't disagree more. The fact is that many of us here - so presumably elsewhere, too - saw the nonsense clearly. A big impediment to getting this fixed has been the lack of acknowledgment from management. So, any rumblings from (respected ??) media will help the groundswell to swell more.

Therefore, the article is very good.
 
Sarge said:
Ok, well then he won a bunch of regular season games. Point is still valid. He's not going to change. He wants to be the winningest coach in Steelers history.
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I think Rooney wants him tonbe the winningest coach in Steelers history.....then to the magic number of.......200. Tomlin will be here until those 2 milestones are met.
 
Hypocycloids said:
I’m not convinced about the part having to do with filling his pockets.
I believe he wants badly to hoist the Lombardi like his dad and grandfather did before him…and for the city that he loves dearly.

I don’t think he wants leave this world having the distinction of being the first Rooney in charge to have failed to win a SB.

I’m certain that in his heart he believes Tomlin remains the right guy despite the long drought. He will point to the winning seasons, and the fact that it is extremely difficult to win a Super Bowl, and the fact that he is very well aware that Tomlin is highly respected outside of Pittsburgh, and would get snatched up the moment he was fired.

That being said, I’m hoping that the increasing criticism against him and the increasing criticism of Tomlin coming from outside of Pittsburgh (and that billboard) will cause him to rethink his position and for him do the right thing.
But sadly I’m not counting on it.
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If he believes Mike is the guy to get this team anywhere I am not sure what he has been watching. Nothing is showing that Mike can get this team anywhere close to the big dance.

Some grand delusions occurring if that be the case.
 
Rooney likes the sound of never a losing season. He will also like 200 wins. It's all fluff.
 
Hypocycloids said:
He should just call it quits, but I feel the more he is criticized the more insistent he will be on staying….especially after seeing that billboard.
It’s up to Rooney to do the right thing.
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It's too late to make the change now, the top replacement options are off the board.

I would like to think that those so called "up and coming" coaches see Tomlin for who he is and decided to part ways amicably at the end of their contract. Maybe the team tried to extend them and were told, "Thanks but no thanks". Then again maybe Tomlin was feeling some pressure from them and chose to not offer a new deal. Only a select few individuals know what really went on, and reporters and us fans are not in that group.
 
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stillwright said:
I think Rooney wants him tonbe the winningest coach in Steelers history.....then to the magic number of.......200. Tomlin will be here until those 2 milestones are met.
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I’m too lazy to look it up, but will this current contract get him to those two ,limestones…….??? I sure hope so.


Salute the nation
 
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