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Nancy Pelosi says Trump is morbidly obese

Here is a list of drugs that can also cause heart arrhythmias in critically ill patients:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20502173/

Numerous drugs have the potential to cause drug-induced arrhythmias. Drugs commonly administered to critically ill patients are capable of precipitating arrhythmias and include antiarrhythmics, antianginals, antiemetics, gastrointestinal stimulants, antibacterials, narcotics, antipsychotics, inotropes, digoxin, anesthetic agents, bronchodilators, and drugs that cause electrolyte imbalances and bradyarrhythmias. Drug-induced arrhythmias are insidious but prevalent. Critically ill patients frequently experience drug-induced arrhythmias; however, enhanced appreciation for this adverse event has the potential to improve prevention, treatment, patient safety, and outcomes in this patient population.
 
Hydroxychloroquine = bad. Why?

FDA approved drug that's been around for decades is considerably cheap. Cheap? That's no good for Big Pharma.

Orange Man Bad recommended the drug as a means to fight Covid-19. What? That's unacceptable.

The end.
 
Tibs said:
Oooh, that's a new one. Nice to see you elevating the civil discourse around here. Classy, real classy.
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you just posted a picture of the President looking like a Queen. That really elevated the civil discourse. After the **** you post up, don't talk about keeping it classy
 
Tibs said:
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careful sharing that meme with liberals. It would make Trump the first Trans President and they’d be powerless to stop themselves from voting for him.
 
Superman said:
btw - would you take a "drug" that has these potential side effects?

  • Blood in the urine
  • body aches or pain
  • chills
  • cough or cough producing mucus
  • difficulty with breathing
  • ear congestion
  • fever
  • headache
  • loss of voice
  • runny or stuffy nose
  • sneezing
  • sore throat
  • tightness in the chest
  • Bladder pain
  • bloating or swelling of the face, arms, hands, lower legs, or feet
  • chest pain
  • cloudy urine
  • difficult, burning, or painful urination
  • fast, pounding, or irregular heartbeat or pulse
  • frequent urge to urinate
  • joint pain, stiffness, or swelling
  • lower back, side, or stomach pain
  • Confusion
  • dark-colored urine
  • diarrhea (severe) with weight loss
  • dizziness
  • hives or itching
  • large, hive-like swelling on the face, eyelids, lips, tongue, throat, hands, legs, feet, or sex organs
  • muscle cramps or spasms
  • muscle pain or stiffness
  • nausea or vomiting
  • Blurred vision
  • chest pain or discomfort
  • dizziness, faintness, or lightheadedness
  • Back pain
  • diarrhea
  • dry mouth
  • flushed, dry skin
  • fruit-like breath odor
  • general feeling of discomfort or illness
  • increased hunger
  • increased thirst
  • increased urination
  • loss of appetite
  • muscle aches
  • pain or tenderness around the eyes and cheekbones
  • shivering
  • tender, swollen glands in the neck
  • trouble sleeping
  • trouble swallowing
  • Acid or sour stomach
  • belching
  • difficulty with moving
  • feeling of constant movement of self or surroundings
  • heartburn
  • indigestion
  • rapid weight gain
  • rash
  • sensation of spinning
  • tingling of the hands or feet
  • Hair loss or thinning of the hair
  • lack or loss of strength
  • redness of the skin
  • welts

yes or no, Tibs?
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Reads like my Sunday morning
 
 
Steeltime said:
Dr. Tibs' response to Supe:

iu
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Funny how everyone's a Doctor these days, just like that Mika Brzezinski or whatever her name is.
 
tapeANaspirin2it said:
It would make Trump the first Trans President and they’d be powerless to stop themselves from voting for him.
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Thanks for the laugh several times now, gentlemen.
 
hamster said:
Don't forget about Surgeon General Joyless Behar.
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Oh yeah, trying to shame that good man on national TV was pathetic. The people see this **** and they're going to make their presence felt at the ballot box.
 
Here is the serious downside of the anti-Trump hydroxchloroquine hysteria. Not studying this drug may cost lives but we only care about lives lost if they can be used to make Trump look bad I guess:

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/trump-hate-is-making-it-harder-to-study-hydroxychloroquine/

Yesterday, I pointed out the potential consequences of having an overwrought, childish, partisan debate over a lifesaving drug that’s used by millions of Americans. Today, I see, Joe Biden is comparing hydroxychloroquine to poison. “It’s like saying maybe if you inject Clorox into your blood it may cure you,” Biden said of Donald Trump’s admission that he takes the drug. “C’mon, man! What is he doing? What in God’s name is he doing?”

I get that Biden thinks it’s cute to merge the myth that Trump wants Americans to inject themselves with bleach and the president’s unproven prophylactic use of hydroxychloroquine. It’s worth noting, however, that the presumptive Democratic Party nominee is also now telling Americans — including those who need this low-risk prescribed drug that has been approved for all public use for over 70 years — that taking hydroxychloroquine is tantamount to injecting yourself with bleach.

Listen to this NPR interview with some doctors trying to conduct tests of hydroxychloroquine effectiveness. Dr. John Giles, a rheumatologist at Columbia University, who says that the partisan fight over hydroxychloroquine has made it virtually impossible for him to find people to test the effectiveness of the drug against coronavirus. Why would anyone want to swallow Clorox, right?

“We are hearing now from some participants that the study and the drug feel too political and they just don’t want to participate at all,” says Dr. Christine Johnston at the University of Washington. Giles also points out that hydroxychloroquine is a “very, very safe drug,” and yet he can’t get people to participate in a study because “pretty much everyone” believes it’s “dangerous to your heart.”

You might remember the same media that is deeply offended by Trump’s championing of an “unproven” drug wrote story after story about a study, neither rigorous nor peer-reviewed, that claimed hydroxychloroquine regularly caused heart arrhythmias.


So Giles was unable to conduct any trials. Other doctors are struggling to find people as well. There is no other conceivable reason why this happens other than the politicization and fear-mongering of a drug. Merely because Trump championed the drug, Dana Milbank feels free to compare it to “camel urine” and Representative Donna Shalala feels free to joke about how it might cause hair loss. (I wonder if the thousands of young people who need hydroxychloroquine think it’s as funny as she does.)

These people don’t care one whit about science, they are consumed with hate for Trump. There are a number doctors with solid qualifications who see promise in hydroxychloroquine as a therapeutic answer to COVID-19. Whether they are right or wrong is yet to be seen. Or maybe not, since knee-jerk anti-Trumpism has created an environment where scientists can’t conduct a simple study.

DAVID HARSANYI is a senior writer for National Review and the author of First Freedom: A Ride through America’s Enduring History with the Gun. @davidharsanyi
 
oneforthebus said:
“We are hearing now from some participants that the study and the drug feel too political and they just don’t want to participate at all,” says Dr. Christine Johnston at the University of Washington. Giles also points out that hydroxychloroquine is a “very, very safe drug,” and yet he can’t get people to participate in a study because “pretty much everyone” believes it’s “dangerous to your heart.”

You might remember the same media that is deeply offended by Trump’s championing of an “unproven” drug wrote story after story about a study, neither rigorous nor peer-reviewed, that claimed hydroxychloroquine regularly caused heart arrhythmias.

So Giles was unable to conduct any trials. Other doctors are struggling to find people as well. There is no other conceivable reason why this happens other than the politicization and fear-mongering of a drug. Merely because Trump championed the drug, Dana Milbank feels free to compare it to “camel urine” and Representative Donna Shalala feels free to joke about how it might cause hair loss. (I wonder if the thousands of young people who need hydroxychloroquine think it’s as funny as she does.)

These people don’t care one whit about science, they are consumed with hate for Trump. There are a number doctors with solid qualifications who see promise in hydroxychloroquine as a therapeutic answer to COVID-19. Whether they are right or wrong is yet to be seen. Or maybe not, since knee-jerk anti-Trumpism has created an environment where scientists can’t conduct a simple study.
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Trump needs to do something so unprecedented in the realm of politics (and in the spirit of completely irrational behavior by many) and immediately condemn hydroxychloroquine and say he's stopped taking it because of all the warnings he's suddenly heeded. Seriously, I know that sounds ridiculous, but we live in a ridiculous time right now, and what the hell would they all do all of a sudden?

Then move on to the next issue, then the next.
 
oneforthebus said:
Here is the serious downside of the anti-Trump hydroxchloroquine hysteria. Not studying this drug may cost lives but we only care about lives lost if they can be used to make Trump look bad I guess:

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/trump-hate-is-making-it-harder-to-study-hydroxychloroquine/

Yesterday, I pointed out the potential consequences of having an overwrought, childish, partisan debate over a lifesaving drug that’s used by millions of Americans. Today, I see, Joe Biden is comparing hydroxychloroquine to poison. “It’s like saying maybe if you inject Clorox into your blood it may cure you,” Biden said of Donald Trump’s admission that he takes the drug. “C’mon, man! What is he doing? What in God’s name is he doing?”

I get that Biden thinks it’s cute to merge the myth that Trump wants Americans to inject themselves with bleach and the president’s unproven prophylactic use of hydroxychloroquine. It’s worth noting, however, that the presumptive Democratic Party nominee is also now telling Americans — including those who need this low-risk prescribed drug that has been approved for all public use for over 70 years — that taking hydroxychloroquine is tantamount to injecting yourself with bleach.

Listen to this NPR interview with some doctors trying to conduct tests of hydroxychloroquine effectiveness. Dr. John Giles, a rheumatologist at Columbia University, who says that the partisan fight over hydroxychloroquine has made it virtually impossible for him to find people to test the effectiveness of the drug against coronavirus. Why would anyone want to swallow Clorox, right?

“We are hearing now from some participants that the study and the drug feel too political and they just don’t want to participate at all,” says Dr. Christine Johnston at the University of Washington. Giles also points out that hydroxychloroquine is a “very, very safe drug,” and yet he can’t get people to participate in a study because “pretty much everyone” believes it’s “dangerous to your heart.”

You might remember the same media that is deeply offended by Trump’s championing of an “unproven” drug wrote story after story about a study, neither rigorous nor peer-reviewed, that claimed hydroxychloroquine regularly caused heart arrhythmias.


So Giles was unable to conduct any trials. Other doctors are struggling to find people as well. There is no other conceivable reason why this happens other than the politicization and fear-mongering of a drug. Merely because Trump championed the drug, Dana Milbank feels free to compare it to “camel urine” and Representative Donna Shalala feels free to joke about how it might cause hair loss. (I wonder if the thousands of young people who need hydroxychloroquine think it’s as funny as she does.)

These people don’t care one whit about science, they are consumed with hate for Trump. There are a number doctors with solid qualifications who see promise in hydroxychloroquine as a therapeutic answer to COVID-19. Whether they are right or wrong is yet to be seen. Or maybe not, since knee-jerk anti-Trumpism has created an environment where scientists can’t conduct a simple study.

DAVID HARSANYI is a senior writer for National Review and the author of First Freedom: A Ride through America’s Enduring History with the Gun. @davidharsanyi
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A flaw in the article, Plaquenil (hydroxychloroquine) entered the market in April of 1955, only 65 years of public exposure, and much too soon to judge it's safety or effectiveness. :rolleyes1: We're all going to die!
 
ZonaBurgh said:
A flaw in the article, Plaquenil (hydroxychloroquine) entered the market in April of 1955, only 65 years of public exposure, and much too soon to judge it's safety or effectiveness. :rolleyes1: We're all going to die!
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Zona, you know what they say about "new" drugs: The first 75 years really tell the tale.
 
Zona, I remember you saying you prescribed it for 30+ years or something of the sort? You a retired pharmacist?

Because all of a sudden we have all of these armchair clinicians in the media talking about hydroxychloroquine like they know every little thing about it. It's nice to know we have an actual expert on the topic.
 
Steelworth said:
Zona, I remember you saying you prescribed it for 30+ years or something of the sort? You a retired pharmacist?

Because all of a sudden we have all of these armchair clinicians in the media talking about hydroxychloroquine like they know every little thing about it. It's nice to know we have an actual expert on the topic.
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Since the mid 70's, the last 27 years in a clinic, sitting in with physicians, educators, etc. developing individual drug therapy for patients. Hung it up about 18 months ago when my legs told me it was time.

Stoney is the go to guy now.
 
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