Pickett should play with the 1's vs Jags

[Fiji Mariner]

I guess it all boils down to if Mitch is to get hurt for say a 3-4 game stretch who does Cool Shades trust more between Rudy and KP to go 2-1 or 2-2 in his absence and give us a better shot at 9-8 to keep that pristine record he has going.

If KP is capable of .500 ball as a backup out of the gate then Obviously the future has arrived…standards boys, standards must be met.

 

[topseed]

There's a lot of hype going around the Burgh that Pickett is the second coming. All because of his check down performance versus practice squad players.

I love this bull **** defective reasoning.

Wasn't Pickett also playing with practice squad players? And wasn't one of his two incompletions intended for a guy who had just joined the team two days prior to the game?

Mason's "Best of the Three Quarterbacks" all-world game came versus Seattle's second-string. Don't you want to discount that, too? Guess it doesn't fit the narrative.

 

[Djfan]

Tomlin puts him in to see how he does against starters, with starters.

For once, I like what shades is doing.

 

[FordFairLane]

I love this bull **** defective reasoning.

Wasn't Pickett also playing with practice squad players? And wasn't one of his two incompletions intended for a guy who had just joined the team two days prior to the game?

Mason's "Best of the Three Quarterbacks" all-world game came versus Seattle's second-string. Don't you want to discount that, too? Guess it doesn't fit the narrative.

I’m not the one who said “Pickett needs varsity reps.” Tomlin did. Mason went against second string guys. Apparently, his performance didn’t conjure enough attention to get first string reps. But for some reason it wasn’t good enough to keep second string reps. But Pickett dumping the ball off leapfrogged Rudolph. Makes no sense. Either give Pickett first string reps and say it’s because he’s our first round pick or make him earn second string reps.

 

[slashsteel]

I’m not the one who said “Pickett needs varsity reps.” Tomlin did. Mason went against second string guys. Apparently, his performance didn’t conjure enough attention to get first string reps. But for some reason it wasn’t good enough to keep second string reps. But Pickett dumping the ball off leapfrogged Rudolph. Makes no sense. Either give Pickett first string reps and say it’s because he’s our first round pick or make him earn second string reps.

Well Rudy should have been intercepted and one of his long balls went out of bounds. So you mix that with his past iffy performances and perhaps they still saw his performance as a mixed bag.

The clear difference between Pickett and Rudolph besides mobility is a known VS an unknown. Not sure why that wouldn't make sense for a coach to get a closer look.

Rudy has had plenty of closer looks to this point. Including behind closed doors not seen by media and you and me.

So now he can get a closer look without obstructing Trib's reps.

 

[FordFairLane]

Well Rudy should have been intercepted and one of his long balls went out of bounds. So you mix that with his past iffy performances and perhaps they still saw his performance as a mixed bag.

The clear difference between Pickett and Rudolph besides mobility is a known VS an unknown. Not sure why that wouldn't make sense for a coach to get a closer look.

Rudy has had plenty of closer looks to this point. Including behind closed doors not seen by media and you and me.

So now he can get a closer look without obstructing Trib's reps.

How many interceptions did Rudolph get again?

I would agree Pickett and Trubisky are more mobile but I wouldn’t say Rudolph can’t scramble. He’s just more of a pocket passer than the other two.

He was rushed into the starting lineup year two then played a couple of starts. One with a lot of backups vs the Browns. And the second was a last minute start because Roethlisberger got covid. This was supposed to be his actual shot at starting but Tomlin and Art didn’t really mean it. In fact I’d guess they were surprised that he did so well in preseason and camp. But none of that mattered.

 

[SteelerFan448]

It all comes down to reps during the season. As already pointed out, you cannot waste an entire season with Pickett playing scout team QB as the No. 3. Just not great for development. The Steelers front office and coaching staff has already established Rudolph isn't the present or the future.

 

[slashsteel]

How many interceptions did Rudolph get again?

I would agree Pickett and Trubisky are more mobile but I wouldn’t say Rudolph can’t scramble. He’s just more of a pocket passer than the other two.

He was rushed into the starting lineup year two then played a couple of starts. One with a lot of backups vs the Browns. And the second was a last minute start because Roethlisberger got covid. This was supposed to be his actual shot at starting but Tomlin and Art didn’t really mean it. In fact I’d guess they were surprised that he did so well in preseason and camp. But none of that mattered.

Thing is that unknown exists arguably with two QBs and one QB is a known. Sure that might have worked against Rudy. He is stuck between a starter and a future hopefully developmental franchise.

I know you don't think Rudy is a franchise, so that is the smart play IMO.

 

[FordFairLane]

Thing is that unknown exists arguably with two QBs and one QB is a known. Sure that might have worked against Rudy. He is stuck between a starter and a future hopefully developmental franchise.

I know you don't think Rudy is a franchise, so that is the smart play IMO.

I don’t know if Rudolph is a franchise QB. Anyone who says they know is full of it. If he’s not in our plans then as a franchise it’s pretty ****** they lead him on. He waited patiently behind Roethlisberger and even signed a friendly deal to stay this year. We could have at least cut him after signing Trubisky or even after drafting Pickett if the team didn’t care how he performed in camp or preseason. He’s been nothing but respectful to the team and fans. If he leaves I hope it’s to a franchise that isn’t as two faced as the Steelers have become.

 

[SteelerFan448]

I don’t know if Rudolph is a franchise QB. Anyone who says they know is full of it. If he’s not in our plans then as a franchise it’s pretty ****** they lead him on. He waited patiently behind Roethlisberger and even signed a friendly deal to stay this year. We could have at least cut him after signing Trubisky or even after drafting Pickett if the team didn’t care how he performed in camp or preseason. He’s been nothing but respectful to the team and fans. If he leaves I hope it’s to a franchise that isn’t as two faced as the Steelers have become.

I think everyone knows Rudolph isn't a franchise QB. Again, the Steelers brought in Trubisky to start AND drafted Pickett. They saw enough of Rudolph to decide he wasn't the guy moving forward. No one has traded for Rudolph. If you think you can get a franchise QB for a lower draft pick, you go out and get them and start them. He got third-string reps for an entire half. A potential franchise QB in his fourth year isn't getting a full second half in a preseason game.

Also, why are the Steelers two faced?

 

[slashsteel]

I think everyone knows Rudolph isn't a franchise QB. Again, the Steelers brought in Trubisky to start AND drafted Pickett. They saw enough of Rudolph to decide he wasn't the guy moving forward. No one has traded for Rudolph. If you think you can get a franchise QB for a lower draft pick, you go out and get them and start them. He got third-string reps for an entire half. A potential franchise QB in his fourth year isn't getting a full second half in a preseason game.

Also, why are the Steelers two faced?

They aren't. They promised Rudy nothing more than a chance to compete. When they brought a QB in and drafted one in the first round it showed they didn't have a lot of confidence in Rudy to show anything special.

 

[FordFairLane]

I think everyone knows Rudolph isn't a franchise QB. Again, the Steelers brought in Trubisky to start AND drafted Pickett. They saw enough of Rudolph to decide he wasn't the guy moving forward. No one has traded for Rudolph. If you think you can get a franchise QB for a lower draft pick, you go out and get them and start them. He got third-string reps for an entire half. A potential franchise QB in his fourth year isn't getting a full second half in a preseason game.

Also, why are the Steelers two faced?

Probably the same people who said they knew Aaron Rodgers was a bust. Or Ryan Tannehill. Or Steve Young. They knew it.

Now could Rudolph be nothing more than a good backup. Definitely. But anyone who says they “know” he is in reality knows nothing.

What I have seen is improvement. He has improved every year. He’s having his best camp. He’s having a good preseason. I don’t know where he will plateau. Could be good backup. Could be average starter. Could be pro bowler. Bottom line he hasn’t played enough to make that assessment.

No one has traded for him. Is that because no one is interested or we are asking primo compensation. Again, no one knows if he is a franchise QB. Giving up a 3rd for a guy with one year on a contract might be too much to bite off for an unknown commodity.

Because Tomlin and company stated Rudolph would have a fair shot at the position. Open competition and best man wins. It was an obvious lie. If they truly went into camp with that attitude he’d have started with the 1’s. Most TD’s with 0 INT’s in camp. Trubisky still starts. It’s a dick move. If he was never in consideration then cut him or trade him when you made up your mind. Don’t dangle that carrot then pull it away when he did what they asked.

 

[MT~Forged]

The Steelers and their local hometown fans are becoming more like Cleveland every day.

 

[Fiji Mariner]

As long as the story is a feel
good story isn’t that good enough MT-Forged?

The feel good story takes away a bit of the sting of this dangerously average cycle/standard we’re stuck in. Win enough to stay above .500, occasionally get to the playoffs as a one and done, rinse and repeat.

As long as we don’t pull a real Cleveland and ship him off as soon as we get that first elusive playoff win in a long time.

 

[slashsteel]

The Steelers and their local hometown fans are becoming more like Cleveland every day.

Nothing about hometown fans screams Cleveland. Ditto the Steelers. Maybe one of the oddest happenings I have seen outside of Wolf's sleepless nights dreaming of Rudy jumping over fences, to cooch thinking he is a GM after reading Walterfootball and watching ten seconds of YouTube.

 

[topseed]

I’m not the one who said “Pickett needs varsity reps.” Tomlin did. Mason went against second string guys. Apparently, his performance didn’t conjure enough attention to get first string reps. But for some reason it wasn’t good enough to keep second string reps. But Pickett dumping the ball off leapfrogged Rudolph. Makes no sense. Either give Pickett first string reps and say it’s because he’s our first round pick or make him earn second string reps.

You're the one denouncing Pickett's performance because it came against practice squad players.

I'm curious: Your buddy Mason looked good yesterday in the fourth quarter versus practice squad players...you going to put him down for it, too?

What I have seen is improvement. He has improved every year. He’s having his best camp. He’s having a good preseason. I don’t know where he will plateau.

Could be good backup. Could be average starter. Could be pro bowler. Bottom line he hasn’t played enough to make that assessment.

He improved last year? Based on what? The Lions game? Going 5-8 for 35 yards in mop-up duty against the Chiefs?

Pro Bowler? The guy has 4 touchdowns and 7 interceptions in his last 4 starts, good for a 62 QB rating.

You are truly comical.

 

[FordFairLane]

You're the one denouncing Pickett's performance because it came against practice squad players.

I'm curious: Your buddy Mason looked good yesterday in the fourth quarter versus practice squad players...you going to put him down for it, too?



He improved last year? Based on what? The Lions game? Going 5-8 for 35 yards in mop-up duty against the Chiefs?

Pro Bowler? The guy has 4 touchdowns and 7 interceptions in his last 4 starts, good for a 62 QB rating.

You are truly comical.

You can go read my assessment of the last preseason game on the my thread.

So what’s the power ball numbers going to be nostradumbus?

 

[madinsomniac]

So a lot of us did question the Pickett selection for one reason or another. Some wanted another player, some wanted a QB next year, Some just thought he wasn’t worth a first rounder. Regardless of whether we agreed with it or not, it’s pretty clear he really was the only qb worthy of a first round pick… maybe in time some of these other guys will turn out better, but for now they are all playing third or 4th string and looking rawer than a fresh fish… and he looks like he at least could be ready to start…

 

[jitter77]

I think the important thing is Pickett didnt look lost or abysmal. Based on camp reports I expected him to be very rough and maybe flash here and there. He has looked way better than I expected. He could still be a bust, but at least he seems to have a solid base to build on. He kinda reminds me a bit of Mac Jones

 

[topseed]

You can go read my assessment of the last preseason game on the my thread.

So what’s the power ball numbers going to be nostradumbus?

No thanks, I don't need to read any of your full game "assessments." I've wasted enough of my time with you.

You're avoiding simple questions, glossing over facts, and making less sense than ever.

 

[FordFairLane]

No thanks, I don't need to read any of your full game "assessments." I've wasted enough of my time with you.

You're avoiding simple questions, glossing over facts, and making less sense than eve

You tried cherry picking stats to fit your horseshit narrative. You take 4 starts over 3 seasons. Why not his last 3 and show how they rack up against each other?

I understand understanding football to the novice like you is hard and complicated. But trust me Rudolph has improved, everyone that knows football agrees, and the only ones who don’t are begrudging fans that can’t let go of his end of the 2019 season.

 

[slashsteel]

You tried cherry picking stats to fit your horseshit narrative. You take 4 starts over 3 seasons. Why not his last 3 and show how they rack up against each other?

I understand understanding football to the novice like you is hard and complicated. But trust me Rudolph has improved, everyone that knows football agrees, and the only ones who don’t are begrudging fans that can’t let go of his end of the 2019 season.

I would have to see him in an actual game this year to see how much of if any he improved. Still not convinced that he is anything but a ok backup.

Seen plenty of good Rudy preseason at Latrobe.

I think regardless he needs to be on a team with a top ten O-line to be able to survive. Just not mobile enough to handle a weak O-line. Trubisky and Pickett fit whatever Canada is trying to do better and have more of a chance of surviving the season.

Fans should also curb their early enthusiasm about Pickett as he will have some growing pains. They all do.

 

[slashsteel]

I think the important thing is Pickett didnt look lost or abysmal. Based on camp reports I expected him to be very rough and maybe flash here and there. He has looked way better than I expected. He could still be a bust, but at least he seems to have a solid base to build on. He kinda reminds me a bit of Mac Jones

My biggest concern with Pickett was the one year production concern. He had hand size, release, and one side roll out tendency to keep an eye on as well.

So far he is checking off every box. I am pleasantly surprised. Doesn't mean hiccups in these areas won't surface. I think his floor is higher than bust. I see him as an NFL starter. A star or franchise for me is the wait and see.

 

[TDX27]

Pickett threw a lot of int's in camp but improved each week and played well when in games. I still think Trubisky has to be our QB1 to start the season. Pickett should be our QB2 even if Rudolph is still on the team. Pickett needs the practice reps.

 

[topseed]

You tried cherry picking stats to fit your horseshit narrative. You take 4 starts over 3 seasons. Why not his last 3 and show how they rack up against each other?

I understand understanding football to the novice like you is hard and complicated. But trust me Rudolph has improved, everyone that knows football agrees, and the only ones who don’t are begrudging fans that can’t let go of his end of the 2019 season.

I don't have to cherry-pick ****, guy. Rudolph has an 80.9 CAREER passer rating in an era when the league average is well over 90.

You want his last 3 starts? Fine: He has a 1-1-1 record with QB ratings of 70.6, 89.2, and 39.8. That's an average of 66.5, well under his ****** career number. Great point.

Rudolph hasn't improved. You and maybe two other apologists here are among the few who have actually somehow convinced yourselves of that.

I understand that you understand very little. You prove it more and more every day.