Pope Francis Says You’re not Christian if You Support Gun Manufacturers

[Spike]

I wonder how the Pope during the Crusades would have been received if he said something similar about sword manufacturers....


Pope says weapons manufacturers can't call themselves Christian

TURIN, Italy (Reuters) - People who manufacture weapons or invest in weapons industries are hypocrites if they call themselves Christian, Pope Francis said on Sunday.

Francis issued his toughest condemnation to date of the weapons industry at a rally of thousands of young people at the end of the first day of his trip to the Italian city of Turin.

"If you trust only men you have lost," he told the young people in a long, rambling talk about war, trust and politics after putting aside his prepared address.

"It makes me think of ... people, managers, businessmen who call themselves Christian and they manufacture weapons. That leads to a bit a distrust, doesn't it?" he said to applause.

He also criticized those who invest in weapons industries, saying "duplicity is the currency of today ... they say one thing and do another."

Francis also built on comments he has made in the past about events during the first and second world wars.

He spoke of the "tragedy of the Shoah," using the Hebrew term for the Holocaust.

"The great powers had the pictures of the railway lines that brought the trains to the concentration camps like Auschwitz to kill Jews, Christians, homosexuals, everybody. Why didn't they bomb (the railway lines)?"

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/pope-says...cant-call-themselves-christian-184139430.html

 

[deljzc]

Is he implying we didn't try to win the war the correct way? That we should have bombed railway lines in the middle of no where rather than military and industrial targets?

I don't mind the Pope, but that is pretty ******* far-fetched....

 

[CharlesDavenport]

He's an *******. And I'm Catholic.

 

[DBS1970]

Has Bergoglio the usurper looked in the armory of the Swiss Guards?

 

[Spike]

Has Bergoglio the usurper looked in the armory of the Swiss Guards?

An arsenal for me, but none for thee

 

[21STEELERS21]

I always thought that if you need a gun to protect yourself, you can't really believe in God. Anyone
that believes in God would have faith that God would protect them.

 

[Spike]

Anyone
that believes in God would have faith that God would protect them.

So the Swiss Guard should lay down their arms?

Who would protect The Vatican from the Muslim hoards?

 

[DBS1970]

I always thought that if you need a gun to protect yourself, you can't really believe in God. Anyone
that believes in God would have faith that God would protect them.

I love it when atheist amateur philosophers try to share their wisdom.

 

[CharlesDavenport]

I love it when atheist amateur philosophers try to share their wisdom.

No ****. It's almost painful.

 

[Spike]

 

[BAS]

I always thought that if you need a gun to protect yourself, you can't really believe in God. Anyone
that believes in God would have faith that God would protect them.

And that ended when Pope John Paul II got shot.

 

[madinsomniac]

Do not judge and you will not be judged... a spiritual man makes judgements about all things, but he himself is under no mans judgement... unless I read those passages wrong, i dont remember the Pope getting a free pass not to follow them....

 

[madinsomniac]

I always thought that if you need a gun to protect yourself, you can't really believe in God. Anyone
that believes in God would have faith that God would protect them.

Actually I personally believe that... however i also dont think it would be fair to force my beliefs on anyone else. I dont have a ten foot fence around my house with attack dogs and an arsenal.... but I dont care that plenty of people sleep better at night doing just that

 

[POP]

Yea, this coming from a dude with bodyguards armed to the teeth. Shut up, douche bag. He whines about the US wanting to build walls to keep illegals out, yet, the Vatican is surrounded by massive walls to keep people out.

I hate hypocrites the most.

I despise thieves less.

 

[Spike]

Do not judge and you will not be judged... a spiritual man makes judgements about all things, but he himself is under no mans judgement... unless I read those passages wrong, i dont remember the Pope getting a free pass not to follow them....

But, when it comes to things like homosexual relations, we hear the Pope say, "who am I to judge?"

Typical socialist attitude....they judge whatever fits their liberal agenda...so get rid of your armed guards or you’re not Christian, right?

Gun manufactures are like baby milk factories compared to the Catholic church’s history of bloodshed.

 

[Steeltime]

He also criticized those who invest in weapons industries, saying "duplicity is the currency of today ... they say one thing and do another."

Oh, you mean like spouting off about supposed celibacy while ignoring priests raping children?

Like that?

Dear Pope Politic - shut the **** up.

 

[ark steel]

I always thought that if you need a gun to protect yourself, you can't really believe in God. Anyone
that believes in God would have faith that God would protect them.

What if God's solution was for you to be smart enough to have your own gun to defend yourself?

For healing, my assumption is always that "if I ask God for healing, his answer will be to go to the doctor". He has better things to worry about than the blisters on my right palm.

A fellow was stuck on his rooftop in a flood. He was praying to God for help.
Soon a man in a rowboat came by and the fellow shouted to the man on the roof, "Jump in, I can save you."
The stranded fellow shouted back, "No, it's OK, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me."
So the rowboat went on.
Then a motorboat came by. "The fellow in the motorboat shouted, "Jump in, I can save you."
To this the stranded man said, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith."
So the motorboat went on.
Then a helicopter came by and the pilot shouted down, "Grab this rope and I will lift you to safety."
To this the stranded man again replied, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith."
So the helicopter reluctantly flew away.
Soon the water rose above the rooftop and the man drowned. He went to Heaven. He finally got his chance to discuss this whole situation with God, at which point he exclaimed, "I had faith in you but you didn't save me, you let me drown. I don't understand why!"
To this God replied, "I sent you a rowboat and a motorboat and a helicopter, what more did you expect?"

 

[BAS]

Oh, you mean like spouting off about supposed celibacy while ignoring priests raping children?

Like that?

Dear Pope Politic - shut the **** up.

I don't see how the current Pope should be held accountable for the deeds of past Popes, unless he was guilty of the same coverups.

 

[Spike]

I don't see how the current Pope should be held accountable for the deeds of past Popes, unless he was guilty of the same coverups.

You do realize we are now living in the golden age of victimization


Popes have a tradition of apologizing for past sins of the church. In 2000, Pope John Paul II issued a sweeping apology for the church’s errors over the previous 2,000 years. Francis himself offered a striking apology during his 2015 trip to South America, when he asked for forgiveness for the church’s complicity in the brutality of the era of Spanish colonialism.



of course, that's never enough



Gay Catholic Groups Want the Vatican to Do More Than Apologize

ROME — Leaders of gay Catholic groups on Monday praised Pope Francis for saying that all Christians and the Roman Catholic Church owed an apology to gays for previous mistreatment, even as the groups called on the church to take more concrete steps to repudiate past teachings and condemn anti-gay violence.

“For a pope to acknowledge that the church has done so much damage to gay people, and that we deserve an apology, is an unprecedented act of humility,” she said in a telephone interview. “But a statement of remorse is only as good as the change in behavior that follows.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/28/world/europe/pope-francis-gays-christians-apology.html?_r=1