Religion is MYTH!!!!

[Spike]

if there's no sex in heaven, then literally, WTF?

Virgins?

 

[Troglodyte]

Religion had nothing to do with Pol Pot, Hitler, Stalin, Chairman Mao, etc...

I'm fairly certain Hitler had a problem with people of the Jewish faith.

 

[wig]

Turd, good news - EVERYONE is guaranteed a spot in "Heaven". He or she need merely repent their sins, accept Christ and gain entry. Nobody needs to be barred from the presence of God.

Now, the complicated part, what is Heaven? Is it a neat place in the clouds? Is it a "place" or medium where you can be in actual tangible relationship with God and Christ? That's a question people need to determine for themselves and be comfortable with. All we are definitively told is that we are given the opportunity to be in relationship with God (and thereby Christ and the Holy Spirit). The alternative is being "separate" from God. So that leaves us with the contrary question. What is Hell? Is it a burning pit in the center of the Earth? Is it Dante's Icy tomb surrounded by concentric rings? Is it a "state" of eternal isolation and loneliness? Again, that's up to you to decide.

People wrongly assume that being a Christian means you have all the answers and that you are automatically supposed to be some kind of amazing awesome person. It doesn't work that way at all. Being a Christian means you recognize that you are ultimately flawed. Tremendously, inherently flawed, and that you need help. Christians make mistakes every single day, likely often. Hopefully they seek to remedy those mistakes and they attempt to not repeat them. That's the goal. But guess what - we're flawed. The best Christians can merely try! And hopefully along they way they demonstrate the joy and happiness and peace that being a Christian brings to their lives to other people and THAT is what makes those other people curious about them. Not "super neat things" that Christians do. Anybody cn do nice things for somebody. Although, technically if you don't believe in any kind of afterlife at all it makes no sense whatsoever to be kind or even cooperative with your neighbors. If you're simply going to wink out of existence in 75 or 80 years your best play is to grab everything you can during your time and kick, beat and cheat everyone and everything that keeps you from getting whatever you want. That's just logic. But I digress.

Someone asked why would God create humanity with flaws and then let them go out and utilize free-will to make mistakes and disobey him. Why would we have children? We know they'll be messy, that they'll undoubtedly disobey us at some point, possibly even quite often. We know they'll fight with their siblings. They might take our car while we sleep. They will make mistakes that can bring themselves and others into harm's way. Why in the world would we bother to have flawed imperfect little copies of ourselves? Why would we care for them? Why would we nurture them and worry about them late at night? Why would we invest all that time in them and then LET THEM GO when they become young adults? It makes no sense. They're our PROPERTY! We made them, we raised them. They're OURS! Shouldn't they WORSHIP us? Is it possible we can be happy with watching them go out into the world and succeed on their own? Can we even bear allowing them to fail on their own? Can we take joy when they call us from time to time? Are we overjoyed when they finally ask us for help, despite the fact that they're proud and they find it difficult to lay their troubles before us even though nobody in the entire world could better understand or could be more sympathetic?

Is it possible that even if our children DID come to us with a request for help we might let them continue to work through a problem on their own? Is it conceivable that we may feel they need to grow through some adversity? Could it be that we send help when it's needed and we don't send help when it's needed too? Maybe just maybe as parents we know a little bit more than our children, even though they rarely see it that way.

Maybe...

 

[Sarge]

I'm fairly certain Hitler had a problem with people of the Jewish faith.

Yes, but was his problem with their faith? Hitler viewed Jews more as a race than a religion.

 

[MTC]

It could possibly be. But its a fact that Neo-Socialists hate the thought of having to answer to a higher power for the evil things they perpetrate on their fellow man.

I'm open minded on this too but feel the same way. Religion is a conscious law to keep people sane and societies civil. Although some societies justify their need to kill according to their "higher power".

Respect others and work honestly is the way I was taught to grow up

 

[Elfiero]

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16

Is that the imaginary Birkenstock wearing magical hippie I hear annoying people talk about all the time?

I figured CONservatives wouldn't get on with hippies, who woulda thunk it?

 

[Elfiero]

I'm open minded on this too but feel the same way. Religion is a conscious law to keep people sane and societies civil. Although some societies justify their need to kill according to their "higher power".

Respect others and work honestly is the way I was taught to grow up

How is that working out?

 

[Elfiero]

" I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned"---Richard Feynman

Nothing more needs to be said.

 

[Booted]

" I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned"---Richard Feynman

Nothing more needs to be said.

We could only hope.

 

[oneforthebus]

Is that the imaginary Birkenstock wearing magical hippie I hear annoying people talk about all the time?

I figured CONservatives wouldn't get on with hippies, who woulda thunk it?

Birkenstocks were not invented until around 1964 A.D., so not the same guy.

 

[wig]

Respect others and work honestly is the way I was taught to grow up

Nothing wrong with that, it's a wonderful and noble personal philosophy. It's just lonely. It doesn't leave you a lot of room for growth or the possibility for something greater.

 

[Steelworth]

Yes, but was his problem with their faith? Hitler viewed Jews more as a race than a religion.

Absolutely. Hitler actually had personal disdain for the Christian church and only used religion as a political tool. From wikipedia:

Hitler was born to a practicing Catholic mother and an anticlerical father; after leaving home Hitler never again attended Mass or received the sacraments.[371][372][373] Speer states that Hitler made harsh pronouncements against the church to his political associates and though he never officially left it, he had no attachment to it.[374] He adds that Hitler felt that in the absence of the church the faithful would turn to mysticism, which he considered a step backwards.[374] According to Speer, Hitler believed that either Japanese religious beliefs or Islam would have been a more suitable religion for the Germans than Christianity, with its "meekness and flabbiness".[375]

Historian John S. Conway states that Hitler was fundamentally opposed to the Christian churches.[376] According to Bullock, Hitler did not believe in God, was anticlerical, and held Christian ethics in contempt because they contravened his preferred view of "survival of the fittest".[377]

 

[CharlesDavenport]

AGW is myth. Socialism as a successful ecomonic system is a myth. Both have been disproved.

 

[Sarge]

Absolutely. Hitler actually had personal disdain for the Christian church and only used religion as a political tool. From wikipedia:

If the international Jewish financiers in and outside Europe should succeed in plunging the nations once more into a world war, then the result will not be the Bolshevisation of the earth, and thus the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe![313]

— Adolf Hitler addressing the German Reichstag, 30 January 1939

 

[MTC]

Nothing wrong with that, it's a wonderful and noble personal philosophy. It's just lonely. It doesn't leave you a lot of room for growth or the possibility for something greater.

It's good to challenge yourself and keep an open mind. I have a strong stance for my beliefs. If practiced in good will I'm tolerant of a lot of things.

 

[MTC]

How is that working out?

Going great. Life is full of ups and downs. Rather than staying in the dumps when things go bad, you go on and work.
Just cause I liberal bash doesn't mean I show disrespect. My daily interactions with people 99.9% of the time are postive.

Go about my work, learn something new --- or try and enjoy life

 

[Stewey]

I'm fairly certain Hitler had a problem with people of the Jewish faith.

I'm fairly certain Hitlers problem with Jews had little to do with their faith.

 

[Troglodyte]

...and thus the victory of Jewry...

— Adolf Hitler addressing the German Reichstag, 30 January 1939

Jewry? Isn't that what black people call rings, necklaces, bracelets and watches?

 

[Stewey]

AGW is myth. Socialism as a successful ecomonic system is a myth. Both have been disproved.

At first it sounded like you said both myths have been disproven....that they are not really myths.

 

[Stewey]

Jewry? Isn't that what black people call rings, necklaces, bracelets and watches?

Not only is it strange that the first 3 letters of jewelry is Jew, but that 9 times out of 10 you are a Jew if your last name is:

Goldman
Goldstein
Goldblum (Pittsburgh native Jeff is Jewish)
Silver
Silverman
Silverstein
Pearl (Daniel Pearl the news reporter murdered by Muslims was Jewish)
Pearlman
Ruby (Jack Ruby was Jewish)
Diamond (Neil Diamond is Jewish)
Greenburg ( green the color of money. Mike is Jewish)
Greenstein
Greenspan
Sterling
Crystal (Billy Crystal is Jewish)

I wonder why that is.

Eddie Money and Johnny Cash were not Jews btw.

 

[Sarge]

Not only is it strange that the first 3 letters of jewelry is Jew, but that 9 times out of 10 you are a Jew if your last name is:

Goldman
Goldstein
Goldblum (Pittsburgh native Jeff is Jewish)
Silver
Silverman
Silverstein
Pearl (Daniel Pearl the news reporter murdered by Muslims was Jewish)
Pearlman
Ruby (Jack Ruby was Jewish)
Diamond (Neil Diamond is Jewish)
Greenburg ( green the color of money. Mike is Jewish)
Greenstein
Greenspan
Sterling
Crystal (Billy Crystal is Jewish)

I wonder why that is.

Eddie Money and Johnny Cash were not Jews btw.

OJ Simpson. Not a Jew.

 

[madinsomniac]

Without delving into specific religions... the concept that most athiests believe in despite some fairly large leaps of faith makes me think their disdain of religion is just itself a form of religion trying to force itself on the rest of the world...

This existance is almost surely a form of computer program... from the coding of dna to matter itself, as well as the mathematical impossibly of random life evolving in the timeframe this universe could in theory have as a maximum. Beyond that there are tons off illogical unnatural limitations that science cannot explain. Its far more likely we are an advanced version of someone's civilization simulator in some other reality that actually did evolve in a way we were more or less based on than random occurrence evolving us down this path in a few trillion years...

 

[CharlesDavenport]

At first it sounded like you said both myths have been disproven....that they are not really myths.

Yes. Sorry for the ambiguity.

 

[MTC]

I'm fairly certain Hitlers problem with Jews had little to do with their faith.

Hitler was an angry wanker who blamed Germany's economic woes on the Jews.
Now the Jews have the $$$

 

[MTC]

Without delving into specific religions... the concept that most athiests believe in despite some fairly large leaps of faith makes me think their disdain of religion is just itself a form of religion trying to force itself on the rest of the world...

This existance is almost surely a form of computer program... from the coding of dna to matter itself, as well as the mathematical impossibly of random life evolving in the timeframe this universe could in theory have as a maximum. Beyond that there are tons off illogical unnatural limitations that science cannot explain. Its far more likely we are an advanced version of someone's civilization simulator in some other reality that actually did evolve in a way we were more or less based on than random occurrence evolving us down this path in a few trillion years...

In simple english: The Matrix!