Report: Aaron Rodgers Is At Steelers Facility On Friday

[Drink IRON City]

He was on the worst team in the league last year.

Titans are pushing levis as their future. Kinda like what we did with Kenny .

We saw Mason Rudolph get pushed to the back when picket was here. We saw what he did when given the chance and enabled a rd 1 playoff game. We see him with a good attitude and not bad skills.

Mason, as the man, how can you not like him. In his interviews he is straight forward, kind, held himself to high standards amongst other things as well.

As a player, he is above average in Ability, but in a below average scheme / offense. We saw what he brought to the table when the “O” was opened up just a little. We also saw what he could do when the same O’l HC took away the freedom, for another playoff loss.

I’m not saying he will lead us to the promised land, but he can defiantly give us a positive season. Will can develope, something this coaching staff hasn’t done since 2018 and beyond. I use 2018 due to the fact that was Ben’s first retirement whisper, should have been developing / planning from that day forward yet……… nothing.

PisZ poor QB management by the Tomlin and add in the fiasco rogers, well you have another season set back and deeper in the laughing-stock barrel.




Salute the nation

 

[Badcat]

I get the frustration of what the Steelers have become. I am frustrated as well. But you claim history shows us that. What about 2014-2018? Hell, even 2007-2011 or so, though not as good as '14-'18.

I think he can build an offense. He hasn't had the players recently, which is his fault. But to fix the problem, you have to properly identify the problem. It's a player problem...which again, his fault. I am not giving him a pass here.

How are you measuring offensive success? In 2018 the Steelers were 2nd in passing yards and second to last in rushing yards. During 14-17 they were top 3 passing yards but middle of the pack in rushing. How much of that is Ben doing Ben things despite Tomlin doing Tomlin things? A truly great player can mask a truly great failure.

 

[diver]

How are you measuring offensive success? In 2018 the Steelers were 2nd in passing yards and second to last in rushing yards. During 14-17 they were top 3 passing yards but middle of the pack in rushing. How much of that is Ben doing Ben things despite Tomlin doing Tomlin things? A truly great player can mask a truly great failure.

Ok. Fair. But if the Steelers had the offensive production now they had in 2014-18, would anyone be arguing that Tomlin has no idea how to build an offense? This is a relatively recent criticism of Tomlin. You can say relatively recent with as long as he's been here. I just think it's more of a player problem...if he had better players, more reliable players, he'd open it up more. But it is his fault they don't have better players. And I think with Kahn and Weidl they are trying to do something about that.

 

[stillwright]

I get the frustration of what the Steelers have become. I am frustrated as well. But you claim history shows us that. What about 2014-2018? Hell, even 2007-2011 or so, though not as good as '14-'18.

I think he can build an offense. He hasn't had the players recently, which is his fault. But to fix the problem, you have to properly identify the problem. It's a player problem...which again, his fault. I am not giving him a pass here.

Some might say that was Ben....not Tomlin. And there is an argument for that notion.

 

[oicu8ad]

**** Rodgers give mason a shot!

You want that top 10 pick that bad!

What has Mason done, other than go 14-14-1 (9-8-1 regular season). 1-4 last season with Tenn.
Lost his job to Duck, 3rd stringer his last year here.
He is Mike Tomczak at best.

I say throw Will Howard in there and let him sink or swim. We'll know what we have in him, and if he isn't the answer, draft one in 2026

 

[Badcat]

Ok. Fair. But if the Steelers had the offensive production now they had in 2014-18, would anyone be arguing that Tomlin has no idea how to build an offense? This is a relatively recent criticism of Tomlin. You can say relatively recent with as long as he's been here. I just think it's more of a player problem...if he had better players, more reliable players, he'd open it up more. But it is his fault they don't have better players. And I think with Kahn and Weidl they are trying to do something about that.

Well, I believe there is a reason that the criticism is fairly recent and your post bears that out pretty well. Outside of the years that Tomlin adopted Bill's offensive personnel and then was able to build that Killer B's offense, he hasn't had much success at all offensively. To your point, since 2018, Tomlin has completely whiffed the last seven years on his coaching staff AND players. In fact, his hire of Canada alone should have drawn more ire from everyone in the league having been fired mid-season, which hadn't been done within the organization since 1941, some 82 years before. With Ben gone, the cracks emerged and here we are, exposed to the fact that Tomlin hasn't been able to build a viable offense for a good number of years.

 

[diver]

Well, I believe there is a reason that the criticism is fairly recent and your post bears that out pretty well. Outside of the years that Tomlin adopted Bill's offensive personnel and then was able to build that Killer B's offense, he hasn't had much success at all offensively. To your point, since 2018, Tomlin has completely whiffed the last seven years on his coaching staff AND players. In fact, his hire of Canada alone should have drawn more ire from everyone in the league having been fired mid-season, which hadn't been done within the organization since 1941, some 82 years before. With Ben gone, the cracks emerged and here we are, exposed to the fact that Tomlin hasn't been able to build a viable offense for a good number of years.

I don't know how he survived the Canada hiring and what went on with that. Maybe you could excuse the hiring, but letting it drag on?

Losing a QB the caliber of Ben is hard to overcome for any coach and have the same level of production. Did Noll all of the sudden forget how an offense should be run in the '80s?

 

[diver]

Some might say that was Ben....not Tomlin. And there is an argument for that notion.

I don't disagree with that. I disagree with the notion Tomlin won't open things up, or he has no notion of offensive football. I believe they are two separate arguments. I believe he will if he has the talent. He, however, is at fault for the lack of talent.

 

[BLITZ]

You want that top 10 pick that bad!

What has Mason done, other than go 14-14-1 (9-8-1 regular season). 1-4 last season with Tenn.
Lost his job to Duck, 3rd stringer his last year here.
He is Mike Tomczak at best.

I say throw Will Howard in there and let him sink or swim. We'll know what we have in him, and if he isn't the answer, draft one in 2026

Yes

 

[stillwright]

I don't disagree with that. I disagree with the notion Tomlin won't open things up, or he has no notion of offensive football. I believe they are two separate arguments. I believe he will if he has the talent. He, however, is at fault for the lack of talent.

You can't run an offense without using the middle of the field. That is a fail. And when Wilson did throw the ball all over against Cincinnati.......he was neutered. That is what a SB winning Vet QB gets from Tomlin.

 

[Lloyd]

Now, there seems to be some confusion between "turkey" bacon and "meatless, vegan" bacon. Seriously though, I can live without bacon. Bacon is good, especially on a club sammie, but is definitely something I could live without if I had to. Folks in here seem 100% addicted to it. Like its crack or heroin.

 

[diver]

You can't run an offense without using the middle of the field. That is a fail. And when Wilson did throw the ball all over against Cincinnati.......he was neutered. That is what a SB winning Vet QB gets from Tomlin.

Agreed. You cannot. But again, it was known Wilson's weakness was throwing over the middle. Cincy's defense was terrible, everyone was throwing on them. But my issue with Tomlin again comes back to the player he picked. He picked Wilson, knowing the weakness. It makes no sense. It's about the players. If Tomlin refused to throw over the middle when Ben was in his prime, I'd agree with the sentiment. To me, player choice is the biggest weakness since Ben left. The other stuff is in the weeds.

 

[speedicut]

Now, there seems to be some confusion between "turkey" bacon and "meatless, vegan" bacon. Seriously though, I can live without bacon. Bacon is good, especially on a club sammie, but is definitely something I could live without if I had to. Folks in here seem 100% addicted to it. Like its crack or heroin.

Commie.

 

[Steelers War Room]

There's certain behavior that's associated with autism spectrum disorder. I'm not so sure that 70% of this board doesn't have it.

I'm an excellent driver, Wapner on in 5 minutes.

 

[Lloyd]

I don't disagree with that. I disagree with the notion Tomlin won't open things up, or he has no notion of offensive football. I believe they are two separate arguments. I believe he will if he has the talent. He, however, is at fault for the lack of talent.

I believe on the few occurrences Clown-lin does have the O talent, he fuddle buddles around and doesn't use it. Ben spoiled him. Look how he can't even put a decent OL together. If he ever does, like with Munch, he screws it up.

 

[Hypocycloids]

Well, tomorrow is Friday. We will see what happens.

 

[stillwright]

Agreed. You cannot. But again, it was known Wilson's weakness was throwing over the middle. Cincy's defense was terrible, everyone was throwing on them. But my issue with Tomlin again comes back to the player he picked. He picked Wilson, knowing the weakness. It makes no sense. It's about the players. If Tomlin refused to throw over the middle when Ben was in his prime, I'd agree with the sentiment. To me, player choice is the biggest weakness since Ben left. The other stuff is in the weeds.

Again. You don't take the middle of the field out of your playbook. You and I see that they do. What do you think the opposing DCs see? They scheme to that. Running 90% of the time on 1st down and 85% on 2nd down is something else the opposing DC see and scheme to.

You have to keep defenses honest. Tomlin's mentality of this is what we do...now stop us is what is holding the team back on both sides of the ball.

 

[Lloyd]

https://www.nfl.com/news/steelers-l...alls-pittsburgh-interest-aaron-rodgers-a-joke

We've all witnessed how Tomlin can't put together an Oline sans Munch. Terry also says Rogers is a waste of time. He's not wrong.

 

[diver]

Again. You don't take the middle of the field out of your playbook. You and I see that they do. What do you think the opposing DCs see? They scheme to that. Running 90% of the time on 1st down and 85% on 2nd down is something else the opposing DC see and scheme to.

You have to keep defenses honest. Tomlin's mentality of this is what we do...now stop us is what is holding the team back on both sides of the ball.

I agree with you. I just feel that was dictated by the players he had...which he was responsible for, moreso than his refusal to do it. I guess in the end it doesn't matter...they weren't doing it.

 

[slashsteel]

 

[Booted]

Now, there seems to be some confusion between "turkey" bacon and "meatless, vegan" bacon. Seriously though, I can live without bacon. Bacon is good, especially on a club sammie, but is definitely something I could live without if I had to. Folks in here seem 100% addicted to it. Like its crack or heroin.

Good to know. Thanks.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

Some might say that was Ben....not Tomlin. And there is an argument for that notion.

But Tomlin trusted him and let Ben be Ben for the most part. At worst he stayed out of the way. He was far more aggressive calling two point plays and going for scores late, many castigated him for that as well.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

I believe on the few occurrences Clown-lin does have the O talent, he fuddle buddles around and doesn't use it. Ben spoiled him. Look how he can't even put a decent OL together. If he ever does, like with Munch, he screws it up.

How many "great" coaches were great without being spoiled by a HoF QB?

 

[Hypocycloids]

Now, there seems to be some confusion between "turkey" bacon and "meatless, vegan" bacon. Seriously though, I can live without bacon. Bacon is good, especially on a club sammie, but is definitely something I could live without if I had to. Folks in here seem 100% addicted to it. Like it’s crack or heroin.

How does Tomlin fit in all of this?

 

[stillwright]

But Tomlin trusted him and let Ben be Ben for the most part. At worst he stayed out of the way. He was far more aggressive calling two point plays and going for scores late, many castigated him for that as well.

This offense Tomlin has deployed the last 5 season is putrid. QB aside. You stated Russ was what we needed and when Russ opened it up himself the 1st game against Cincinnati Tomlin flipped. You can largely blame our late season collapse directly on Tomlin. Instead of embracing what Russ did he did the exact opposite. It cost us. Now we wait for Rodgers. There is zero proof we open up even for him.

Tired of the notion that it was the QB that made Tomlin institute the ****** offense.

Not just the offense though.....the play calling was simply dismal.