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Rodgers Signing with Black n’ Gold

Coryea said:
Thanks for correcting me, but your defense is allowed to make a stop correct? So I'm putting 10 points on the offense, fumble return for a TD and setting up the Jags in FG territory, so the defense still allowed Blake Bortles and the Jags offense to score 35 points.
If you were told before the game that Ben would have 469 yards, 5 TD's, 1 INT, and only 2 sacks, and the offense would score 42 points every single Steeler fan would've signed up for that.
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That was an embarrassing game. It was really pathetic.
 
Aussie_Steeler said:
Don't forget the total number of teams in the league also expanded in 1995 and 2002 without a change in playoff numbers. Most of Cowher's time it was 12 of 28 and 12 of 30, and the expanded playoffs have only been in place for 5 years of Tomlin's 18 years, so overall Tomlin has probably had lesser probability of making the playoffs than Cowher.
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I hear what you are saying, but also know all three coaches had their opportunities to make the playoffs………………

Was it also easier for the first two to win a playoff game???????

None of the coaches had anything do with the league schedule / format / game times / who they play / etc….

The one commonality was to coach and play the game.

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Chuck Noll. 16-8

Bill Cowher. 12-9

Mike Tomlin. 8-11

My HOPE is strong in that I see a possible PO win this year. It will take change, something Coach Tomlin has spoken of all off-season. Is there going to be truth in that or Groundhog Day once again.?

Scheme is the root cause of past and future outcome.




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Drink IRON City said:
I hear what you are saying, but also know all three coaches had their opportunities to make the playoffs………………

Was it also easier for the first two to win a playoff game???????

None of the coaches had anything do with the league schedule / format / game times / who they play / etc….

The one commonality was to coach and play the game.

Ask Siri

Chuck Noll. 16-8

Bill Cowher. 12-9

Mike Tomlin. 8-11

My HOPE is strong in that I see a possible PO win this year. It will take change, something Coach Tomlin has spoken of all off-season. Is there going to be truth in that or Groundhog Day once again.?

Scheme is the root cause of past and future outcome.




Salute the nation
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The Tomlin supporters, when referring to the recent playoff struggles always say well look at who he had at QB, he shouldn't be expected to win or make the playoffs, blah, blah, blah.
Cowher in 12 seasons without a Franchise QB had 7 post season wins and 4 AFCCG's
Tomlin in 17 seasons with a Franchise QB has 8 post season wins and 3 AFCCG's.
 
Drink IRON City said:
I hear what you are saying, but also know all three coaches had their opportunities to make the playoffs………………

Was it also easier for the first two to win a playoff game???????

None of the coaches had anything do with the league schedule / format / game times / who they play / etc….

The one commonality was to coach and play the game.

Ask Siri

Chuck Noll. 16-8

Bill Cowher. 12-9

Mike Tomlin. 8-11

My HOPE is strong in that I see a possible PO win this year. It will take change, something Coach Tomlin has spoken of all off-season. Is there going to be truth in that or Groundhog Day once again.?

Scheme is the root cause of past and future outcome.




Salute the nation
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Spot on DIC

Less mediocre teams in the field back in the Noll/Cowher days.

Mike’s probability was definitely far GREATER than Cowher as he was gift wrapped a HOF QB for every single playoff win he has ever had whereas Cowher was on the brink of a SB appearance (which should have happened if no BS refs going crazy with phantom PI penalties) with Kordell freakin Stewart. It is a QB driven league and Mike was gift wrapped one of the best for every bit of success he has ever had…thus his playoff success rate had a far higher probability than Bill even given the extra playoff seeds.

Cowher manufactured playoff wins without the benefit of having a HOF QB, which is literally the ONLY reason Mike has ever won a playoff game. In not one of “his” playoff wins did ya come away thinking “gee, Mike surely put them over the hump for that win” no it took a superlative effort by a HOF QB AND the greatest play in SB history to defy the Mike factor.

Mike career playoff win total without a HOF QB still stands at zero and that stat will continue another year….guaranteed.

Hell in Cowher’s SB win he did it despite Ben uncorking one of the worst performances ever by a playoff winning team QB.

10-22 158 yards and 2 picks
Anyone think Mike can overcome that?
 
Fiji Mariner said:
Spot on DIC

Less mediocre teams in the field back in the Noll/Cowher days.

Mike’s probability was definitely far GREATER than Cowher as he was gift wrapped a HOF QB for every single playoff win he has ever had whereas Cowher was on the brink of a SB appearance (which should have happened if no BS refs going crazy with phantom PI penalties) with Kordell freakin Stewart. It is a QB driven league and Mike was gift wrapped one of the best for every bit of success he has ever had…thus his playoff success rate had a far higher probability than Bill even given the extra playoff seeds.

Cowher manufactured playoff wins without the benefit of having a HOF QB, which is literally the ONLY reason Mike has ever won a playoff game. In not one of “his” playoff wins did ya come away thinking “gee, Mike surely put them over the hump for that win” no it took a superlative effort by a HOF QB AND the greatest play in SB history to defy the Mike factor.

Mike career playoff win total without a HOF QB still stands at zero and that stat will continue another year….guaranteed.

Hell in Cowher’s SB win he did it despite Ben uncorking one of the worst performances ever by a playoff winning team QB.

10-22 158 yards and 2 picks
Anyone think Mike can overcome that?
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Ben had horrible stats no doubt, but he made big plays at big moments.
-3rd and 28 he scrambled from pressure and hit Ward at the 1 yard line to set up the 1st TD which he scored
-Faneca credited Ben with setting Seattle up for the Parker run, not sure how
-He picked off the blitzing safety to give El a clean throw on the Ward TD.
-He got our of pressure and hit Ward with a backhand pass on 3rd down to keep another scoring drive alive.

That 05 team IMO is always undervalued, they were so much better than most give them credit for.
They were 7-2 then Ben got hurt, Marvel got hurt, that's how they ended up 7-5, then once everyone was back healthy they played the 4 highest scoring offenses in the NFL on the road on their post season run.
 
Wait Rodgers actually signed with the Steelers? I would have thought it would be all over the sports pages.
 
Fiji Mariner said:
Spot on DIC

Less mediocre teams in the field back in the Noll/Cowher days.

Mike’s probability was definitely far GREATER than Cowher as he was gift wrapped a HOF QB for every single playoff win he has ever had whereas Cowher was on the brink of a SB appearance (which should have happened if no BS refs going crazy with phantom PI penalties) with Kordell freakin Stewart. It is a QB driven league and Mike was gift wrapped one of the best for every bit of success he has ever had…thus his playoff success rate had a far higher probability than Bill even given the extra playoff seeds.

Cowher manufactured playoff wins without the benefit of having a HOF QB, which is literally the ONLY reason Mike has ever won a playoff game. In not one of “his” playoff wins did ya come away thinking “gee, Mike surely put them over the hump for that win” no it took a superlative effort by a HOF QB AND the greatest play in SB history to defy the Mike factor.

Mike career playoff win total without a HOF QB still stands at zero and that stat will continue another year….guaranteed.

Hell in Cowher’s SB win he did it despite Ben uncorking one of the worst performances ever by a playoff winning team QB.

10-22 158 yards and 2 picks
Anyone think Mike can overcome that?
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Dang good post Fiji Mariner, thank you and for all the great ones along the way. Appreciate yaz

The NFL league has pussified the game. The strive for parody has been a priority for a long time. In achieving parody, the talent pool dwindles. The really good stars get paid a high % of cap space leaving the remainder cap to sign the rest of the team, less money equates to lower talent.

All teams have to deal with this factor, Tomlin is nothing special. Only thing that stands out is that Tomlin seems to be more3 of a Re-action instead of a PRO_Action when it comes to players. (Once Ben retired, the QB situation is a great example and many others)

Like I’ve said, I have HOPE./ my LS10 / and my BT50 I took for a spin last night….!!!




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Whether he retires or not, the thought of it will Make Howard work his tail off to be the guy next year. Rodgers just shortened his own leash as they'll want to see what they have in Howard unless Aaron has a great season from start to finish.

Gonna be another drama flick under Tomlick.
 
KentuckySteeler said:
Whether he retires or not, the thought of it will Make Howard work his tail off to be the guy next year. Rodgers just shortened his own leash as they'll want to see what they have in Howard unless Aaron has a great season from start to finish.

Gonna be another drama flick under Tomlick.
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How did AA Ron shorten his own leash? If you mean he is a short timer due to retiring when the season is over, sure.

Anything else…
Nope
 
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