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Rudolph to return

The article on the steelernation page makes the most sense. I was confused why we didn't release Trubisky right away and save 8 million and then just sign a veteran back up for cheaper. But Khan held on to Mitch knowing it does nothing to the cap to release him earlier and now allows for Rudolph and Trubisky to fight it out for the backup spot. If Rudolph wins they can cut Mitch and save the money for resigning the likes of Alex Highsmith.
 
The article on the steelernation page makes the most sense. I was confused why we didn't release Trubisky right away and save 8 million and then just sign a veteran back up for cheaper. But Khan held on to Mitch knowing it does nothing to the cap to release him earlier and now allows for Rudolph and Trubisky to fight it out for the backup spot. If Rudolph wins they can cut Mitch and save the money for resigning the likes of Alex Highsmith.
This one?

I suspect even more disappointed fans if he becomes the official back up.
 
Vet minimum. So basically it cost the Steelers nada.

Any Idea what a 5 yr “vet” minimum contract is worth these days. It isn’t just on salary fits all as the years roster definately affects the pay. (Not sure to what degree, it’s not as much as we think)


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The article on the steelernation page makes the most sense. I was confused why we didn't release Trubisky right away and save 8 million and then just sign a veteran back up for cheaper. But Khan held on to Mitch knowing it does nothing to the cap to release him earlier and now allows for Rudolph and Trubisky to fight it out for the backup spot. If Rudolph wins they can cut Mitch and save the money for resigning the likes of Alex Highsmith.
I have nothing against Rudolph as a backup, but I sure hope that’s not the plan. Steelers are painting a pretty clear picture of the kind of team they want to build. I just see him as an unnecessary link to the past. Mitch has proven to be a team first guy…Rudolph, not so much.
 
Any Idea what a 5 yr “vet” minimum contract is worth these days. It isn’t just on salary fits all as the years roster definitely affects the pay. (Not sure to what degree, it’s not as much as we think)


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Beats me. His is only a one year with that roster rule the cap doesn't take a hit. Not sure how that plays out past the 1 year contracts. Perhaps that same rule isn't in place beyond that.
 
I have nothing against Rudolph as a backup, but I sure hope that’s not the plan. Steelers are painting a pretty clear picture of the kind of team they want to build. I just see him as an unnecessary link to the past. Mitch has proven to be a team first guy…Rudolph, not so much.
What has Rudolph done to say he isn't a team first guy? By all accounts he has been more than a good teammate and willing to help the other QB's in the locker room.
 
What has Rudolph done to say he isn't a team first guy? By all accounts he has been more than a good teammate and willing to help the other QB's in the locker room.
That’s a side note to my main point, but yeah, I I’d certainly say a perception was created that he isn’t. Not that I fault him, he got screwed last year. But he made it clear he didn’t want to be here and only signed when he found he wasn’t as highly regarded as he thought. I was NOT saying get rid of him because he is not a team guy. What I am saying is I think Mitch is a better fit and Rudolph’s indifference to being here makes the decision easier.

Mitch is more plug and play with Pickett’s style...Rudolph fit the mold for Ben. Again, I don’t blame him, it’s business, but when you compare his “demotion” response to Trubisky’s demotion when both had promises implied, they stand in stark contrast. Also, Mitch participated in the QB/reciever training…I’m sure that gives him a leg up with chemistry. Mason might be the cheaper backup, but I think Mitch is the right one.
 
Vet minimum. So basically it cost the Steelers nada.
If they all get along well about best situation you couod hope for. And short of cutting Trubisky which didn't seem in the cards costs you what 8million over 3 years to have a top 5 backup in the league. If I'm KP though I'd be saying to Mitchell when the three of us go out.YOU are paying.
 
Vet minimum depends on playing time and years in the league. I don't think position is involved but not sure. I thought Rudolph would be making around $1.5 million but he's making barely over $1 million. Still a nice payday for not dressing on most weekends.
 
That’s a side note to my main point, but yeah, I I’d certainly say a perception was created that he isn’t. Not that I fault him, he got screwed last year. But he made it clear he didn’t want to be here and only signed when he found he wasn’t as highly regarded as he thought. I was NOT saying get rid of him because he is not a team guy. What I am saying is I think Mitch is a better fit and Rudolph’s indifference to being here makes the decision easier.

Mitch is more plug and play with Pickett’s style...Rudolph fit the mold for Ben. Again, I don’t blame him, it’s business, but when you compare his “demotion” response to Trubisky’s demotion when both had promises implied, they stand in stark contrast. Also, Mitch participated in the QB/reciever training…I’m sure that gives him a leg up with chemistry. Mason might be the cheaper backup, but I think Mitch is the right one.
How'd Rudolph get screwed last year? What did Rudolph do that was worse than Mitch indicating maybe signing in Pittsburgh wasn't the best move?

“Everything happened kind of quick [in free agency]. I didn't really have a long time to think of the decision. I wish I would've taken some more time and not just signed the first day of free agency,” Trubisky said via Pryor’s article. “Looking back on it, just try to do some more research. But I felt like they were interested. I felt like it was a good opportunity to possibly get back on the field, but nothing's guaranteed.”
 
He must like Pittsburgh. He obviously didn't get real offers but I'm pretty sure half the teams would take him at 1.08 million unless he is a known cancer which I seriously doubt.
 
How'd Rudolph get screwed last year? What did Rudolph do that was worse than Mitch indicating maybe signing in Pittsburgh wasn't the best move?
Chalk it up to an off the cuff remark, but I don’t really think he was given a legitimate chance at QB1 last year. I like Mason and Mitch….again my point was I think Mitch is a better fit, and I hope they don’t ship off Mitch and keep Mason.

It’s all perception…a sense rather than fact but this sounds worse to me than Mitch saying he should have taken his time and thought it through longer.

https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/news/new-report-mason-rudolph-done-pittsburgh-steelers
 
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So Mason admitted in an interview that he turned down other offers to come back here… I assume those were third string roles for vet minimums… for those who don’t know, he supposedly fired his agent before resigning here.

There is a really good reason why… Mason signed that one year extension in 2021 to come back for about 5 million dollars… that deal really sidelined his career… first of all, it totally took him out of last years market, where the market was far better… especially for backup roles that had a path to starting… secondly the cap number coupled with his drop back passer style ultimately kept him from being traded last year… the value he had to the Steelers superseded what teams were willing to offer for him, and those typical QB injuries never really materialized across the league.

This year there simply wasn’t a market for qbs… if you look at depth charts there are a bunch of older qbs that will be done soon and some younger qbs that teams are still hoping they develop but are far from proven… some of those guys will be gone next year…

If he is going to be a third string qb, it’s far more logical for him to come back to a system he knows. If nothing else he can certainly put another strong preseason tape together so he could get a chance at a higher spot next season…

If he left just to get away, there is always the chance he struggles to pick up the new system right away and they cut him early and then his career is over
 
That’s a side note to my main point, but yeah, I I’d certainly say a perception was created that he isn’t. Not that I fault him, he got screwed last year. But he made it clear he didn’t want to be here and only signed when he found he wasn’t as highly regarded as he thought. I was NOT saying get rid of him because he is not a team guy. What I am saying is I think Mitch is a better fit and Rudolph’s indifference to being here makes the decision easier.

Mitch is more plug and play with Pickett’s style...Rudolph fit the mold for Ben. Again, I don’t blame him, it’s business, but when you compare his “demotion” response to Trubisky’s demotion when both had promises implied, they stand in stark contrast. Also, Mitch participated in the QB/reciever training…I’m sure that gives him a leg up with chemistry. Mason might be the cheaper backup, but I think Mitch is the right one.
I have seen a lot of Trubisky play living in Wisconsin and watching him with the bears for years. He is what he is at this point. I agree he has the legs like Kenny and is scrambling QB but Mitch has never been able to throw over the middle. He just doesn't seem to see the traffic and doesn't throw to the open space. I guess he is what he is. I would say an exceptional backup and an ok starter. Rudolph I really don't have too much to go on. 2019 was up and down but it was his second year in the league and thrusted into the starting lineup. He played well, not good, before the concussion. After that all I got is training camp, preseason, a spot start and a few mop up duties. Nothing I have seen doesn't say he is at least a good backup. More TDs than INTs. Decent QB rating. Good competition percentage. I guess what I am saying is I would rather have Rudolph as the backup and 8 million more dollars to sign Alex Highsmith than having the slight increase in backup QB quality in having Mitch. That is just me. I think a pro bowl edge guy like Highsmith is more important than Mitch Trubisky.
 
Mitch won't be road blocking Highsmith from a new contract. The only thing that would roadblock his return is if the Steelers in general think he is too pricey after negotiating. By now we know what Mitch is and damn sure know what Rudy the red nosed third stringer is. Steelers and the whole fan base minus one snowflake knows what they have in Rudolph. The reason he came cheap.

Man days and weeks go by but that agenda stays the same. Two posters on this site get a wacky *** viewpoint and ride it deep into the ground.

For the love of got damn it mane.
 
guess what I am saying is I would rather have Rudolph as the backup and 8 million more dollars to sign Alex Highsmith than having the slight increase in backup QB quality in having Mitch. That is just me. I think a pro bowl edge guy like Highsmith is more important than Mitch Trubisky.
So Rudy signs a 3rd string QB offer for just over a million. And now you are saying get rid of Mitch’s and his 2nd string QB contract to save 8 mill for Alex. Like that would just magically happen. Even though Mitch was going to stay and make that this year regardless. You don’t think if Rudy was the second stringer he would not make more than one million with his tenure? Or we wouldn’t have to sign another QB? This 8 million to just magically appear for Alex?
I must say....when it comes to the subject of these 3 QB’s for the Steelers your thoughts are frigging bizare O world.
 
just wanted to bump this so we can all see how insanely ignorant Coolie is.
 
He’ll be back now unless the Steelers get outbid.
Hindsight is 20/20 but you wonder why they gave Mitch an extension in the off-season.
 
He’ll be back now unless the Steelers get outbid.
Hindsight is 20/20 but you wonder why they gave Mitch an extension in the off-season.
Weren't they trying to lower the cap hit with the extension? I can't remember what the thought process was.

I would think they might try to bring Rudy back. But not sure it would be Rudy's first choice. Who knows his market value but as of right now it looks better than last off-seasons.
 
Weren't they trying to lower the cap hit with the extension? I can't remember what the thought process was.
I don’t see why. He was on a two-year deal and this would have been his last year anyway.
 
So he's back as #3 because no one else wanted him as a #2?
Agree that it's a lot of money to tie up in cap space for backup QB's which makes me afraid that they'll trade Mitch.
Mitch > Rudy.

Insert Anchor Man saying "we're laughing." :ROFLMAO:

Gee, some of the people saying Pickett ain't the guy just might be wrong! lmao
 
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