Would you like to point out what was incorrect about that statement? It was America who went into those wars and the rest followed. The war in Afghanistan was in response to an attack against America - who else's war was it if not America's? Iraq - again it was America leading the rest of "the West" into war and Vietnam was one of many actual wars during the cold war period that was basically an America v Communism proxy war - the only difference being that the Vietnam war actually had America's and their allies troops on the ground.
I wasn't making a judgmental comment about those wars just pointing out the exaggerations in Del's statements. The fact that I question the factual basis for a complaint that aid/military support etc is a one way street from America to the rest of the world, no more make me a bleeding heart liberal, than questioning immigration policy makes someone a racist. Seriously a lot of you guys (on both sides of the political spectrum) seem to have a real problem with discussing/debating issues on their merits without having to put a label on someone. But then I suppose only those who are extremely passionate about their political views are likely to be spending time posting them on a messageboard (especially one primarily devoted to football).
Where you were incorrect:
"Those were America's wars, no-one else's," Taking that comment at literal, face value is incorrect. We did not go to war alone. We went to war
with support and a coalition - a very large coalition in each case. The Afghan coalition:
1 Afghanistan
2 Australia
3 Armenia
4 Azerbaijan
5 Bangladesh
6 Bulgaria
7 Belgium
8 Bosnia and Herzegovina
9 Canada
10 China
11 Congo
12 Cyprus
13 Czech Republic
14 Denmark
15 Egypt
16 Estonia
17 France
18 Georgia
19 Germany
20 Greece
21 Hungary
22 India
23 Iran
24 Ireland
25 Italy
26 Japan
27 Kuwait
28 Kyrgyzstan
29 Latvia
30 Lithuania
31 Macedonia
32 Malaysia
33 Montenegro
34 Netherlands
35 New Zealand
36 Norway
37 Oman
38 Pakistan
39 Poland
40 Portugal
41 Qatar
42 Romania
43 Russia
44 Slovakia
45 Slovenia
46 South Korea
47 Spain
48 Sudan
49 Sweden
50 Switzerland
51 Tajikistan
52 Thailand
53 Turkey
54 Turkmenistan
55 United Arab Emirates
56 Ukraine
57 United Kingdom
58 United States
59 Uzbekistan
The Iraq coalition:
NATO: A contingent of around 150 advisers under the separate command NATO Training Mission - Iraq-(withdrawn 12/11)
United States: 150,000 invasion 165,000 peak-(withdrawn 12/11)
United Kingdom: 46,000 invasion (withdrawn 5/11)
Australia: 2,000 invasion (withdrawn 7/09)
Romania: 730 peak (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 7/09)
El Salvador: 380 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 1/09)
Estonia: 40 troops (deployed 6/05-withdrawn 1/09)
Bulgaria: 485 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Moldova: 24 peak (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Albania: 240 troops (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Ukraine: 1,650 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Denmark: 545 peak (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Czech Republic: 300 peak (deployed 12/03-withdrawn 12/08)
South Korea: 3,600 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Tonga: 55 troops (deployed 7/04-withdrawn 12/08)
Azerbaijan: 250 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Singapore: 175 offshore (deployed 12/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Bosnia and Herzegovina: 85 peak (deployed 6/05-withdrawn 11/08)
Macedonia: 77 peak (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 11/08)
Latvia: 136 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 11/08)
Poland: 200 invasion—2,500 peak (withdrawn 10/08)
Kazakhstan: 29 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 10/08)
Armenia: 46 troops (deployed 1/05-withdrawn 10/08)
Mongolia: 180 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 09/08)
Georgia: 2,000 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 8/08)
Slovakia: 110 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/07)
Lithuania: 120 peak (deployed 6/03-withdrawn 08/07)
Italy: 3,200 peak (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 11/06)
Norway: 150 troops (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 8/06)
Japan: 600 troops (deployed 1/04-withdrawn 7/06)
Hungary: 300 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 3/05)
Netherlands: 1,345 troops (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 3/05)
Portugal: 128 troops (deployed 11/03-withdrawn 2/05)
New Zealand: 61 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 9/04)
Thailand: 423 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 8/04)
Philippines: 51 troops (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 7/04)
Honduras: 368 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 5/04)
Dominican Republic: 302 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 5/04)
Spain: 1,300 troops (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 4/04)
Nicaragua: 230 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 2/04)
Iceland: 2 troops (deployed 5/03-withdrawal date unknown)