Schefter reporting Steelers are now listening to trade offers for Bell (jets maybe)

[Steel Ballin]

Well you can cross Earl Thomas off your list. He was carted off the field with his leg in an air cast.

 

[Coach]

We've done nothing to address the secondary??? Look, things may not be panning out to be the second coming of the legion of boom, but it's not like they haven't been trying. (besides I think 90% of our issues is the DC and his scheme).

Lets take a look at just the last three years of drafts and free agents.

2016 - we drafted Artie Burns and Sean Davis in the first two rounds of the draft. We then added Brandon Boykin and Justin Gilbert.

2017 - We drafted Cam Sutton and Brian Allen. We then added Joe Haden and JJ Wilcox, also signed Mike Hilton.

2018 - we cut Mike Mitchell, drafted Terrell Edmunds and Marcus Allen. Signed Morgan Burnett and Nat Berhe.

Fact of the matter is they have been trying to add pieces to the secondary for several years now. Even back further when we drafted Senquez and the injury bug hit him like a freight train.

The problem isn't the players at this point. We have plenty of talented athletes on the field, the problem is the scheme. Time to simplify things, get back to the basics, let these players do what they do best (most of the guys drafted or signed recently are better in man to man situations vs zone). Seattles defense was nothing elaborate. It was one of the most simply schemes out there, but that's what made it effective. It let the players just react and instead of analyzing and guessing out of 3-4 different possibilities. Butler needs to go, the 3-4 zone needs to go...

Tomlin, who hires or promotes the DC needs to go. I really did not want Burns, I would have taken thet trade down and would have taken X. Howard ( Dolphins ) , and a 3rd round pick Simmons ( Broncos ). Had the Steelers done this, our secondary would be much better.

Was Edmunds the right call in round one? Anyone see Darius Leonard. Oh my, I wish we picked him instead. No disrespect to Edmunds, Leonard looks special.

 

[Stoney]

The defense will improve every week we have a young athletic defense. I'm not stressing out about the secondary or the front line. Middle linebacker would be my ultimate pick

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None of the defensive units will improve without proper coaching, something they haven't had in 2+ years...

 

[21STEELERS21]

Best case scenario is Bell comes in on the bye week so that he doesn't lose 2 checks and we trade him that week to someone for
a #2. Nobody mentions the transition tag, but that makes Bell not necessarily a rental. Team that trades for him can transition
tag him next year and have the option to match his market value offer sheet.

Where Steelers messed up, they should have put the non-exclusive tag on Bell and let him talk to other teams. It would
have allowed him to learn his market value and maybe realize the Steelers offer was reasonable.

 

[Bigappleyinzer]

Best case scenario is Bell comes in on the bye week so that he doesn't lose 2 checks and we trade him that week to someone for
a #2. Nobody mentions the transition tag, but that makes Bell not necessarily a rental. Team that trades for him can transition
tag him next year and have the option to match his market value offer sheet.

Where Steelers messed up, they should have put the non-exclusive tag on Bell and let him talk to other teams. It would
have allowed him to learn his market value and maybe realize the Steelers offer was reasonable.

I dont think the gross money terms were that far-off, only the guaranteed portion.

It sounds like management offered him something like $15mm gtd., which is ostensibly not market as Gurley and DJ proved.

And I am sure his stance has not change AT ALL following what happened to Earl Thomas.

I really think the Steelers brass mucked this whole thing up, and our offense is paying the price.

 

[Superman]

Tomlin, who hires or promotes the DC needs to go. I really did not want Burns, I would have taken thet trade down and would have taken X. Howard ( Dolphins ) , and a 3rd round pick Simmons ( Broncos ). Had the Steelers done this, our secondary would be much better.

Was Edmunds the right call in round one? Anyone see Darius Leonard. Oh my, I wish we picked him instead. No disrespect to Edmunds, Leonard looks special.

******* hindsighted ******. stfu. at no point before the draft did the name "Darius Leonard" roll off your keyboard. NONE. In fact, you even said you'd pass on him for Reid or Bates.
http://www.steelernationforums.com/...e-7-round-mock&p=482903&viewfull=1#post482903

Not a fan of pick #2 and #3 ( maybe a round later for each ), and doubt Freeman falls all the way to round 5.

A 3 round mock, using a primary and secondary if the primary is off the board for rounds 1-3

1 ) ILB Evans or Vander Esch
2 ) S Reid or Bates
3 ) RB Penny or DT/NT Phillips

 

[Coach]

Tomlin, who hires or promotes the DC needs to go. I really did not want Burns, I would have taken the trade down and would have taken X. Howard ( Dolphins ) , and a 3rd round pick Simmons ( Broncos ). Had the Steelers done this, our secondary would be much better.

Was Edmunds the right call in round one? Anyone see Darius Leonard. Oh my, I wish we picked him instead. No disrespect to Edmunds, Leonard looks special.

******* hindsighted ******. stfu. at no point before the draft did the name "Darius Leonard" roll off your keyboard. NONE. In fact, you even said you'd pass on him for Reid or Bates.
http://www.steelernationforums.com/...e-7-round-mock&p=482903&viewfull=1#post482903

Your gimp masks is on too tight.

First off, I was 100% correct on Burns and the trade down. Would you rather have Burns or X. Howard and* Justin Simmons? Sack up and answer that question, if you can. I am correct, Colbert was not.

Secondly, I wanted Reid over Edmunds, and said so on the day after the draft when Evans and Vander Esch were OFF the board. Edmunds is going to be benched. He's not ready, and maybe not good enough. We'll see.

Thirdly, I said I wanted ILB Jerome Baker in round two, not Washington who looks very average so far. Check out how Baker is doing.

Lastly, I did not say Leonard in round one, I'm saying the Steelers would be better off if they picked him in round one. Dude looks awesome.

If you have correct info on something you called, only then can you tell someone to STFU. In this case you have neither.

 

[slashsteel]

Tomlin, who hires or promotes the DC needs to go. I really did not want Burns, I would have taken the trade down and would have taken X. Howard ( Dolphins ) , and a 3rd round pick Simmons ( Broncos ). Had the Steelers done this, our secondary would be much better.

Was Edmunds the right call in round one? Anyone see Darius Leonard. Oh my, I wish we picked him instead. No disrespect to Edmunds, Leonard looks special.



Your gimp masks is on too tight.

First off, I was 100% correct on Burns and the trade down. Would you rather have Burns or X. Howard and* Justin Simmons? Sack up and answer that question, if you can. I am correct, Colbert was not.

Secondly, I wanted Reid over Edmunds, and said so on the day after the draft when Evans and Vander Esch were OFF the board. Edmunds is going to be benched. He's not ready, and maybe not good enough. We'll see.

Thirdly, I said I wanted ILB Jerome Baker in round two, not Washington who looks very average so far. Check out how Baker is doing.

Lastly, I did not say Leonard in round one, I'm saying the Steelers would be better off if they picked him in round one. Dude looks awesome.

If you have correct info on something you called, only then can you tell someone to STFU. In this case you have neither.

coach seriously just cut the who you wanted in the draft ****. Nobody ******* cares. and besides you had plenty of suck with your picks. You are not a draft guru. You don't even watch full game tapes. So give your tired narrative a rest.

 

[Superman]

Tomlin, who hires or promotes the DC needs to go. I really did not want Burns, I would have taken the trade down and would have taken X. Howard ( Dolphins ) , and a 3rd round pick Simmons ( Broncos ). Had the Steelers done this, our secondary would be much better.

Was Edmunds the right call in round one? Anyone see Darius Leonard. Oh my, I wish we picked him instead. No disrespect to Edmunds, Leonard looks special.



Your gimp masks is on too tight.

First off, I was 100% correct on Burns and the trade down. Would you rather have Burns or X. Howard and* Justin Simmons? Sack up and answer that question, if you can. I am correct, Colbert was not.

Secondly, I wanted Reid over Edmunds, and said so on the day after the draft when Evans and Vander Esch were OFF the board. Edmunds is going to be benched. He's not ready, and maybe not good enough. We'll see.

Thirdly, I said I wanted ILB Jerome Baker in round two, not Washington who looks very average so far. Check out how Baker is doing.

Lastly, I did not say Leonard in round one, I'm saying the Steelers would be better off if they picked him in round one. Dude looks awesome.

If you have correct info on something you called, only then can you tell someone to STFU. In this case you have neither.

you directly inferred that you'd have taken Darius Leonard instead of Edmunds.
YOU said that.
Just now.
No one even prodded you to extoll this virtue of wisdumb.

and, at no point did you ever say anything about Darius Leonard. None. Not prior to the draft, and until now, not after the draft.

 

[Coach]

coach seriously just cut the who you wanted in the draft ****. Nobody ******* cares. and besides you had plenty of suck with your picks. You are not a draft guru. You don't even watch full game tapes. So give your tired narrative a rest.

I called out busts rather easily in the past, and often the guys I would have taken are better. No--I will not be muted here. Just don't reply back, that is your best move, and remember I've got the bigger head.

 

[thesteelcity]

Until anything actually takes place, it's like farting in the wind. I'm so tired of hearing about Bell. The Steelers didn't handle this like a smart organization should have. Other teams trade their problem players, get multiple picks, players and whatever. Not the Steelers, they held onto him, gave him a contact that was fair(that's fine, but we knew what LB was looking for) and now they will just see him walk for nothing because they didn't see him sitting this year. Nobody pulls one over on the Steelers. . . well, LB did and I don't blame any team that will wait to see how it plays out.

 

[Coach]

you directly inferred that you'd have taken Darius Leonard instead of Edmunds.
YOU said that.
Just now.
No one even prodded you to extoll this virtue of wisdumb.

and, at no point did you ever say anything about Darius Leonard. None. Not prior to the draft, and until now, not after the draft.

At no point did I say anything about Leonard? Bahahaha. Wrong! I liked the guy, not for round one though. But I'd trade him now for Edmunds.

http://www.steelernationforums.com/showthread.php?20600-FINAL-MOCK-rounds-1-3&highlight=Leonard

Just so you have it my draft would have been this, and I said it the say after the draft picking who I liked at the time when we pick


1 ) FS Reid. * I don't have access to background reports, so if there were character issues such Reid plans to be an anthem take a knee media guy, I'd pass and take another player.* Until then he's a good cover guy, fast 4.40 speed and tall at 6'1". * Great hands. * A true sideline to sideline defender, for man, or zone.* Not ideal for slot coverage, but so what we'd got corners for that. * *For the record, I did like Edmunds and mentioned him in my mock drafts, just not for round one.* If it were round two, I would have applauded the pick.*

>>>Doing well in Houston.

2 ) ILB Baker.* Baker has rare speed for the position, a need a Williams is slow.* Solid on the blitz, can force fumbles, and gets his hands on his share of passes as well. * Good at making tackles behind the line of scrimmage.* An OSU guy replaces an OSU guy, with Shazier offering pointers.

>>>Doing very well in Miami.

3A ) QB Rudolph.* I would have been all right with Rudolph in round two; he's a steal in round three!* Same pick as the Steelers. A top deep passer, good on leading receivers.* The fact is the Steelers, while Ben is playing will never have a top 10 pick, which is where the best prospects go, *so this pick is a calculated one.* We'll find out if Rudolph can play after 100 practices and a few pre-season games. I think he went to the right team. An impressive speaker with a good football mind, he'll work to get better.*

>>>We picked him.

*3B ) *DT/NT *Phillips. Strong as a bull yet very active vs. the run or pass, with unusual stamina and effort for a large player. This guy loves to play football and can get into the backfield.* He's exactly what we need in 3 or 4 man fronts. * Hargrave to me gets pushed around too often and doesn't add much as a pass rusher.

>>> Off to a fair start.


5A ) Punter Dickson. I think he's a Pro Bowl punter, about 1.3 million cheaper than Berry. A *Pin them back, drop it inside the 10-yard line, a guy who can boom if for instance, go for hang time type of punter.* A really good punter can help a defense, which is the theme of my draft.

>>> Only averaging 48.4 yards a kick, with sick hang time.

5B ) RB Samuels, *Same pick, same round. A do it all type, who has some speed.* A beast in the red zone. * We can use a player like this. A Steeler power back, who can play some H back too. * Decent speed.* Very scheme flexible.*

>>> We picked him.


7 ) WR Foster. A former five-star recruit for Alabama, he did not pan out or get drafted.* However, he's 6'2" tall with 4.4 speed and moldable traits for the coaches. * Foster has rare upside for round seven.* I wonder if he could return kicks if given the chance?


>>> On Buffalo. 2 catches, 15 yards a catch.


Summary: I think our speed and tackling on defense would be MUCH better with this draft. We'd have another option at NT/DT, a developmental speed WR, and a pro bowl punter. Yes its too early to judge. 3 years is needed. Why the Steelers spent 3 of our first 4 picks on offense is beyond me.

 

[slashsteel]

I called out busts rather easily in the past, and often the guys I would have taken are better. No--I will not be muted here. Just don't reply back, that is your best move, and remember I've got the bigger head.

YOU ARE NOT A DRAFT GURU

Your best move is to tone it down, as not one poster wants to hear who you would have picked.

Get that into your thick skull. It is bad enough the team sucks, nobody wants to see your ******* chest thumping.