Scoop: PresidentTrump is pulling U.S. out of Paris climate deal

[Xnavycl]

And when you start disagreeing with scientific emergent truths, your arguments are as strong as someone arguing the earth is flat...

Here's a scientific emergent truth: The democrats don't have a pot to piss in.

...another, not unlike a dying star, the dems will one day implode on themselves, and become a white dwarf--a toss up between Grumpy & Dopey.

Finally, in science you must account for all the known variables; such as, who is paying for the grant that is funding your global warming scientific research, and what findings best fit with their agenda.

I mean, you don't want that cash-cow of funding to run dry, or better stated, run cold. Self preservation, right Mr. & Mrs. Scientist? You've got to keep those Bunsen burners lit somehow?

Conspiracy theory, no.

Conspiracy fact, yes!

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[Spike]

 

[Stewey]

It's very easy to understand why Tibs and all other libtards are for the accord. They are for anything that hurts, weakens or demeans America because they hate America. They can deny that, but their words, actions and what they support and believe in proves it.

A long held belief amongst libtards is that the U.S. is why third world countries exist. Our wealth is ill gotten. That was Obamas belief.

We need to pay back.

As already mentioned here, even if the computer models turned out to be right , liberals are all for spending trillions of dollars, and sacrificing millions of jobs, to reduce the average global temperature in the year 2100 by 0.17 degrees.

Why do people like Trog and Tibs have such a difficult time putting 2 + 2 together?

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[Stryker]

I'm not confusing you with anyone. You said "if anyone things we don't affect the environment, you are dead wrong". I don't know anyone who thinks this even the most devoted GW/CC denier.

There can't be very many more than two sides to the GW/CC issue. Maybe 3, I guess. You are either 1) Absolutely this is the truth 2) No ******* way or 3) To some degree, but the change is insignificant.

Under 1, you might have 1a) We can stop this or 2) nothing we can do or 3) we can alleviate some of the damage.

I don't know why you would thing the GW/CC unbelievers are sticking their head in the sand.

So you are saying humans do not affect the environment in any way?

 

[Stryker]

Here's a scientific emergent truth: The democrats don't have a pot to piss in.

...another, not unlike a dying star, the dems will one day implode on themselves, and become a white dwarf--a toss up between Grumpy & Dopey.

Finally, in science you must account for all the known variables; such as, who is paying for the grant that is funding your global warming scientific research, and what findings best fit with their agenda.

I mean, you don't want that cash-cow of funding to run dry, or better stated, run cold. Self preservation, right Mr. & Mrs. Scientist? You've got to keep those Bunsen burners lit somehow?

Conspiracy theory, no.

Conspiracy fact, yes!

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Looks like you majored in Political Science. FYI, it's not a real science. Now why can't you flat earthers get behind that?

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

So you are saying humans do not affect the environment in any way?

That's not what he's saying. Re-read it. He said he doesn't "think" we have an effect on the environment, or if we do it's very little.

It's right at the top of the page.

I'm there with him. I don't think we have that much of an impact on the environment. Some, sure. To warrant this hysteria? Nope. It is what it is, an economic redistribution model, plain and simple. The UN head of climate change STATED THIS AS FACT.

We pulled out from it. Thank God.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

Looks like you majored in Political Science. FYI, it's not a real science. Now why can't you flat earthers get behind that?

Watch the Political science major crap! I am deeply offended by that! It is much a real science as ..... well **** I got nothing.

 

[IndySteel]

Why do people like Trog and Tibs have such a difficult time putting 2 + 2 together?

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Because they're libtards. The brain synapse that connects common sense to reality doesn't spark, so each of those nodes are dead.

 

[Stryker]

That's not what he's saying. Re-read it. He said he doesn't "think" we have an effect on the environment, or if we do it's very little.

It's right at the top of the page.

I'm there with him. I don't think we have that much of an impact on the environment. Some, sure. To warrant this hysteria? Nope. It is what it is, an economic redistribution model, plain and simple. The UN head of climate change STATED THIS AS FACT.

We pulled out from it. Thank God.

I agree. Financially it was a smart move to pull out of it.

Does it mean that climate science is false? No it doesn't.

 

[Steeltime]

Does it mean that climate science is false? No it doesn't.

Cope, climate science is nothing more than computer models projecting future temperatures and rainfall.

That's it.

To date, the computer models have not accurately projected temperature increase or rainfall due to increased CO2 emissions. That is a fact. Here are the climate models compared to actual temperature data:

Is it asking too much that spending $3 trillion on something, we should KNOW THAT WE ARE SPENDING THE $3 TRILLION FOR GOOD REASON?!?

 

[Spike]

Don't waste your time arguing with a religious cult, anyone that dares to question them are labeled heretics


Just ask them "Where did the Great Lakes come from?”

Hooray Global Warming! We are STILL coming out from the end of the last Ice Age!

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

I agree. Financially it was a smart move to pull out of it.

Does it mean that climate science is false? No it doesn't.

I won't say that climate science is false. I will say that a lot of the "science" fed to us as "science" is in fact not science at all. The "evidence" we've been fed is a load of horse ****. In 1978, these scientists told us we were heading for an Ice Age. Then they told us the planet was warming. Called it Global Warming in fact. Then for 15 years, there was no warming. So it was changed to "Climate Change" because they couldn't show the warming.

I think a vast majority of climate science is tainted and influenced by money and grants and governments and Al Gore, all combined, that have a very real reason to get you hysterical about "climate change".

I think a lot of the science is corrupt, as evidenced. See NOAA and their falsified weather data. See the Navy falsified weather data. Or other agencies' falsified weather data.

I think the error in your quote above is you call it science. I don't. I call it manipulation through falsified data. When you can differentiate "climate science" from grant-influenced, government-influenced, politically-influenced statistical manipulation, then we can begin to have a discussion. There's been no planetary warming for 15 years. The global caps didn't melt. Scientists now are predicting an ice age. And guess what? Earth naturally goes through progressions of warming and cooling century after century after century.

I know this. Carbon taxes don't work. Ask Australia. Carbon taxes do redistribute wealth. Carbon taxes were a damnation on Germany. These taxes and regulations are a means by which to divert money from one pocket, to another - i.e., away from the US.

As stated before, when the US is asked to pony the brunt of the check and China has to do nothing for 30 years, well...and you couple it with this "science" you speak of...the writing on the wall is pretty evident.

 

[Spike]

‘Pittsburgh Not Paris’ Rally in Washington

President Trump’s supporters plan to hold a “Pittsburgh Not Paris” rally Saturday in front of the White House to demonstrate support for his decision to pull out of the Paris climate change agreement, countering expected protests by Democrats and liberal activists.

The rally, named after Mr. Trump’s remark about representing “citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris” when announcing he was ripping up the Obama-era agreement

The Trump campaign urged the president’s supporters in the area to attend the event Saturday from 10 a.m. until noon across from the White House in Lafayette Square.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/2/trump-supporters-plan-pittsburgh-not-paris-rally-w/

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Thank You PA!

 

[Stryker]

That's where I don't agree. I don't like the muddying of the waters techniques that corporations are creating to maximize profits and kick the can down the road. Pollution is an impact, emissions is an impact, usage of resources (especially fresh water) is an impact. And all of them need to be regulated.

Carbon taxation isn't the way though. It's fuzzy math at best.

 

[ark steel]

So you are saying humans do not affect the environment in any way?

What is so hard to figure out. Pretty clear I agree we affect the environment. I don't agree we affect Climate. Those aren't the same.

 

[Shane Falco]

The Paris Accord was never used properly

 

[deljzc]

If the environmentalists actually just stuck to the "facts" and science this wouldn't even be an issue. No one in the world would care. The actual effects are minimal at best. There is no proven "model" for climate change. They are all theories. And the theories have changed so much over the years and have so many variables that true scientific method (i.e. make an observation, form a question, form a hypothesis, conduct experiments and then make conclusions) is being perverted.

The fact SKEPTICS are being so blatantly attacked is the first sign true science isn't happening. Skeptics have and always will be the leaders in the scientific community. Copernicus was a skeptic. Newton was a skeptic. Einstein was a skeptic. For the scientific community to be so fearful of "skeptics" is the most blatant sign something is wrong with current climate "science".

Consensus means nothing in science. There was a time the scientific community agreed the earth was flat. That the four elements were earth, air, water and fire. That an "ether" existed so light waves could move.

The true problem with climate science right now is the data and scientific method is being abused by non-scientists as a sky-is-falling, scare-tactic for political ends (by both sides I might add but more so on the left). It's like politicians woke up one day and saw how much money WWF was making putting whales and baby seals on front pages that they realized pulling at the heart strings of America's environmental conscience was a sure-fire way to pass socialist legislation. I wish it wasn't like that. I wish we could all talk about ecosystems, life, death, man and nature in a logical, non-emotional way... but it never happens.

The true climate science. Those that understand it is an "best educated guess". Those that realize the world has (over billions of years) been extremely resilient at sustaining life. Those are the scientists you want to talk to. Not Governor Brown who actually said this is a WAR. That our species depends on it.

That type of non-scientific rhetoric is really what has and continues to hurt true science. And continues to hurt liberalism in general. The constant over-exaggeration of every event that doesn't go their way. The constant ideology that their **** doesn't stink. I really believe they turn people into conservatives just because people just hate their arrogant, know-it-all attitudes. And by conservative I mean just "shut up, quit talking and leave me alone to work and live my life" type of normal people that hate being lectured to about how bad they are and how little they know.

Liberals still haven't realized their holier than thou political ideology CREATES the animosity and backlash that occurs again and again in elections. The idea of greater good for all should be an easy sell, but liberals somehow manage to **** it up time and time again. It's humorous actually if you think about it. And I tell all my liberal friend to think how their message sounds and how often it sounds condescending and critiquing and downright accosting.

If there is one thing I've learned from being conservative it is to appreciate hard work and character. I think Martin Luther King is rolling over in his grave about the state of liberalism. Because we no longer judge people by their character. We judge them and value them by their demographic. By their political voting record.

I wish we could just get back to judging people by their character.

 

[Xnavycl]

Looks like you majored in Political Science. FYI, it's not a real science. Now why can't you flat earthers get behind that?

Close, aerospace engineer.

Don't know why you'd hit on the Poli-Sci folk. They went to college, which means they were indoctrinated, uh..taught by your tribe.

And yes, the world is flat, just like your *** from driving a bus.

Figuratively speaking, of course.

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[Stewey]

So you are saying humans do not affect the environment in any way?

Humans have affected the environment in several ways...water and air pollution from manufacturing for example.

Climate I suppose is a component of the environment, but we need to make a distinction between "the environment" and "climate change" here .

I'm of the belief that the human contribution to the increase in Co2 levels which amounts to a fart in a hurricane have no affect on the environment.

Climate change is the ticket for globalists/progressives/ liberals to ride their global distribution of wealth agenda.

 

[CharlesDavenport]

I agree. Financially it was a smart move to pull out of it.

Does it mean that climate science is false? No it doesn't.

No it doesn't. But climate science is a joke.

 

[Spike]

Ted Cruz Crushes Bizarre Attack On Paris Withdrawal

Harvard professor Joyce Chaplin:
The USA, created by int’l community in Treaty of Paris in 1783, betrays int’l community by withdrawing from #parisclimateagreement today.

Ted Cruz:
Just sad. Tenured chair at Harvard, doesn’t seem to know how USA was created. Not a treaty. Declaration+Revolutionary War+Constitution=USA.

Lefty academics @ my alma mater think USA was “created by int’l community.” No–USA created by force, the blood of patriots & We the People. Treaty of Paris simply memorialized that fact, of our total victory at Yorktown. Her claim is like saying a plastic globe created the earth.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archiv...rushes-bizarre-attack-on-paris-withdrawal.php

 

[CharlesDavenport]

Obamanomics -

Speaking as a private American citizen, Obama said: “The nations that remain in the Paris Agreement will be the nations that reap the benefits in jobs and industries created. But even in the absence of American leadership; even as this Administration joins a small handful of nations that reject the future; I’m confident that our states, cities, and businesses will step up and do even more to lead the way.”

- from http://www.dailywire.com/news/17077...052917-news&utm_campaign=position2#exit-modal

Create jobs and industries? It's the exact opposite, unless we're talking about the carbon hedge funds.

He just lives in bizarro world. Remember when Obamacare was going to lower healthcare costs and lower premiums by $2,500 per family?

 

[SteelChip]

Don't waste your time arguing with a religious cult, anyone that dares to question them are labeled heretics

There is no end to the amusement on this Spike. This is better than the day after Trump was elected.

Media: We Are All Going to Die
http://freebeacon.com/issues/we-are...ail&utm_term=0_b5e6e0e9ea-5dcf0dcbaa-22930469

The media is warning that global catastrophe is imminent. President Trump announced Thursday that the United States will withdraw from the Paris climate accord, a global agreement to curb greenhouse gas emissions. The move drew strong rebukes not only from Democratic lawmakers, but also from Trump's predecessor.

If these weren't actual clips, nobody would believe this nonsense was for real.....bwahahahaha

 

[Spike]

There is no end to the amusement on this Spike. This is better than the day after Trump was elected.

Media: We Are All Going to Die

If we don’t tax our citizens and businesses into poverty, then give our money to the rest of the world as Climate Welfare, How are we ever going to save the planet??

 

[Spike]

Trump Derangement Syndrome strike again


The Paris Climate Deal Was A 'Fraud' And A 'Sham' ... Until Trump Decided To Ditch It

Shouldn't environmentalists be celebrating the fact that President Trump decided to withdraw from the Paris climate-change agreement? After all, when it was signed, many of them called it a fraud, or worse.

The reaction to Trump's announcement was ferocious.

Yet it was only a little more than a year ago that climate scientists and environmentalists were viciously attacking the Paris agreement itself.

A joint letter signed by nearly a dozen top climate scientists said the agreement suffered "deadly flaws lying just beneath its veneer of success." These scientists complained that the agreement could actually be counterproductive, since it gave the impression that global warming was being dealt with when in fact it wasn't.

A study in the peer-reviewed journal Global Policy said that even if every country lived up to its CO2 emission reduction promises through 2030, the Paris deal would "likely reduce global temperature rise about 0.17°C in 2100."

"Current climate policy promises will do little to stabilize the climate and their impact will be undetectable for many decades," the study concluded.

Kevin Anderson, a climate-change professor at the University of Manchester told the London Independent that the Paris deal was "worse than inept" and that it "risks locking in failure."

Friends of the Earth International labeled it "a sham of a deal" that will "fail to deliver."

"Politicians say it is a fair and ambitious deal," the group's Dipti Bhatnagar said, "yet it is the complete opposite. People are being deceived."

http://www.investors.com/politics/e...d-and-a-sham-until-trump-decided-to-ditch-it/