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Should the Steelers trade up or trade down?
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Broderick Thomas Jones. That's his middle name.
I call him Broderick Thomas because we are basically best buds.
I mostly agree as the price would be too steep. But there is a few players I think are going to be all pro capable. I can see as a whole that the top tier might have a few more questions than some might anticipate. And that starts right at QB where there is some decent question marks.
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Stand your ground.
The Steelers need multiple trench. Stay pat or move down less than 7. No trade up at all.
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I've always felt like you have a good chance to get a good player in rounds 1-3. Anything after that is for projects, and likely cuts unless you just get lucky (which certainly happens sometimes). If we were to trade down on our first pick, we damn well better be swapping firsts and getting at least another 2nd. Even then, that's if a big need is off the table, or if the BPA just isn't all that great at 17. It mostly depends on what happens in FA.
I have not researched this issue but suspect that certain positions (G, DT, ILB) have a greater likelihood of success when drafted round 4 or later. Some (QB, LT, CB) seem overwhelmingly to be manned by round 1 and 2 selections, Marcia and Richard Sherman notwithstanding.
Once in a while, a position is way too deep and top end guys slip into the fourth… but usually yeah tge first 3-4 rounds you look for solid guys then gamble in the late rounds or just target special teams types…
Or they have some character issues in the past and the talent is there. But teams are a little nervous it won't stay in the past. See Antonio and Bryant.
Or they are a raw and or with a significant injury past. Plenty of reasons good talent slip. It is just perhaps a little more of a roll of the dice with the mentioned.
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If the Steelers went 2 offensive linemen and 1 defensive linemen with 3 of their 4 top picks would anyone not be happy?
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I think everyone would be pretty happy with that as long as there are no reaches in that group.
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We don’t have enough capital to trade up. I think this is obvious
We have to big a needs to trade down. I think this is obvious as well.
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Yes,sir. Build the lines. This is no year to go for offensive toys or trading up for some soft LB.
Besides building the lines makes the entire team better.
idk.. i would like an ILB. and we need a corner..
I think we have our Two starting defensive tackles on the roster. I dont think they prioritize the NT enough to make it a top 3 pick.
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Good point BUT, the value would have to be there.
BPA VS Player of Need VS Value at round position.
You know as well as me that we can’t just reach for player of need. I think we can get two of the first four to equal that equation and be Trench Workers.
Today I target OLT as being that one single player we can’t miss on. Many here say Moore can slide to LG (I know nothing is guaranteed) but that would be my strategy going forward
ILB and CB, with ILB edging out but either is important, so the value equation comes into play.
Free Agency will also govern the logistics of priority for the draft.
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I think we could trade back about 5 spots in the first and 10 spots with #32 and still get quality since we have several needs. Of course, the return has to be worth it.
I’m anxious to see if deals are made to get first round QB’s this year. This could definitely help us out. Projections are for 4or 5 of them to go first round…then again, we remember last year.
I’m anxious to see if deals are made to get first round QB’s this year. This could definitely help us out. Projections are for 4or 5 of them to go first round…then again, we remember last year.
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You’ve got a good scenario there Buster, but I don’t think I’d do both this year. We have to big of need in HIGH quality players.
Our current 1st two picks have us in a GREAT spot to obtain player of need vs draft spot value. We need a day one starter in a LT and if we get him it will require a high investment such as 1.17 to get him.
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unless they get a deal that blows them away they should take BPA in the 1st....I would be more open to trading #32 and getting a few extra picks
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I think we definitely need a quality corner either through FA or draft. I would go for LT or CB in round one. I dont see ILB as that big of need. I think we can add a decent cheap player through FA or grab one in the later rounds. If we dont have DJ then that leaves a hole at WR. We need to work on finding Cam's replacement he is not going to play forever. We have a lot of areas that need improvement. As long as the guy is not a total reach then would not be upset w/ most positions.
Really no ILBer in the draft that screams hey pick me at 17.
For me at 17 it is value meets need:
T
G
CB
WR
Also ok with a pass rushing OLB/DE if it was clearly BPA
At 32 we can expand to:
C
ILBer
S
Late 2,3 and 4 rinse and repeat.
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I say trade down in round one IF the top three tackles are off the board in round one to pick #22-31, picking up an additional 3rd and 6th round pick.
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“Who neEd’s OL when you have weapons”
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Why wouldn’t we have DJ ? Deonte Johnson, just signed an extension last year for a total of three years. We have him next two, unless my O’l memory is thinking wrong…..
They are not going to trade him.
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Steelers have other needs besides T. That isn't their only need. Feel free to say what players you would take. Or would you rather wait until after the draft?
