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Steelers offense

I’m not completely certain that Mike Tomlin even knows ANYTHING about Offense. The reason there aren’t any changes, IMHO, is because MT doesn’t have a clue. Hell, he isn’t even that good when it comes to Defense. And don’t get me started on game management ( TO’s & challenges)
 
All the pressure caves into the middle. When Kenny drops back to pass he cannot see. There is no field vision that his line creates. I think his bad throws are that he cannot see. If the Steelers are stuck with canada, there has to surely be someone on staff to suggest getting Kenny out of the pocket on passing plays.


The steelers continue to force stuff that isn’t working. As a fan it does make me question their competitiveness. Most of the staff from Art to Tomlin are complacent.
I think it was the first play after halftime. Kenny rolls out to the right.....and I think,finally they are rolling him out to pass on the run and alleviate The rush up the middle. Half time adjustments. Kenny throws one of his worst passes of the night directly to a Brown. It should have been picked.

I’m not gonna kid myself. I am very disappointed in Kenny’s progress. I expected a lot more. Yes Canada has got to go.
Kenny hasn’t been any better. I certainly haven’t given up on him,but it’s time to see some improvement.
 
Kenny in the hot seat. Mitch wasn't warming up on the sidelines.
 
Again this is on Canada. When 90% of your pass plays are within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage the entire d is compressed. This is why no one is open on pass plays. no one can run the ball and our online can’t block. We say we played the 2 best defense teams. Nope. Watch the last 3 years, every team plays us the same way with same results, whether it is Pickett, Mitch or Ben. This is all scheme
 
I’m not completely certain that Mike Tomlin even knows ANYTHING about Offense. The reason there aren’t any changes, IMHO, is because MT doesn’t have a clue. Hell, he isn’t even that good when it comes to Defense. And don’t get me started on game management ( TO’s & challenges)
When he comes out after halftime and says he’d be “remiss if he didn’t compliment the offense” I’m quite certain Shades knows jack squat about offense

Obviously obvious ineptitude
 
Again this is on Canada. When 90% of your pass plays are within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage the entire d is compressed. This is why no one is open on pass plays. no one can run the ball and our online can’t block. We say we played the 2 best defense teams. Nope. Watch the last 3 years, every team plays us the same way with same results, whether it is Pickett, Mitch or Ben. This is all scheme
But just think how open Pickens will be in the middle if we just spread 99% of the throws as quick outs/come back routes to the sidelines

Pure genius by Tomlin-Canada
 
Top 5 Pittsburgh Steeler Centers Ever!
  1. Dermontti Dawson (#63)
  2. Mike Webster (#52) 'Iron' Mike Webster.
  3. Maurkice Pouncey (#53) Maurkice Pouncey.
  4. Ray Mansfield (#56) Ray Mansfield (#56)
  5. Jeff Hartings (#64) Jeff Hartings (64)
I fully agree. We have a tradition of great centers with long careers. I’ve been advocating the use of a high draft choice since the year Pouncey started snapping it over Ben’s head consistently . We’ve passed on so many since then. I think we’ve made a mistake not going for top rated centers, and underestimate their importance. I guess there’s always next year.
We should have Creed Humphries right now and not Najee Harris.
 
When he comes out after halftime and says he’d be “remiss if he didn’t compliment the offense” I’m quite certain Shades knows jack squat about offense

Obviously obvious ineptitude
I don't believe those were his words the remiss part was giving the Browns credit.
 
When he comes out after halftime and says he’d be “remiss if he didn’t compliment the offense” I’m quite certain Shades knows jack squat about offense

Obviously obvious ineptitude
What do you expect him to say? Why the heck anyone listens to anything any coach says is beyond me. They all just blow smoke around. It doesn't frustrate me what he says...it is the product I see on the field. I don't know. I gotta wonder if Sarge is onto something here, even though after last week I said give Pickett time. He missed at least 3 throws that he has to make...no excuses. It ain't the HC or the OC...it is him just not making the throws. But Canada is just terrible, no escaping that. That play late in the game, the Pickett option, what the heck was he watching the whole game to actually think that had a chance?

I've always laughed at the notion that us armchair coaches could do better, but I think some of you guys could.
 
Good thing they got rid of #7 before he was ready to call it quits.

Actually he's probably a lot better off health wise, QBs are on a suicide mission behind this line.
 
Moving Canada from the booth to maybe the hallway where he can't see what the defense is doing and maybe he gets some calls right?

You had me to moving him to the hallway and I was thinking he would see the exit sign at the end;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; then

YOU lost all credibility when you suggested it would give him advantage and keeping him………….



Salute the nation
 
Hey at least we know George Pickens can get open and has the wheels to take it to the house.

That's the only positive I got from the offense.

I would fire Canada tomorrow and burn his playbook. You could draw up better plays in the dirt and be more successful.


Ben ROETHLISBERGER did just that.


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Good thing they got rid of #7 before he was ready to call it quits.

Actually he's probably a lot better off health wise, QBs are on a suicide mission behind this line.

It's a horrible offense. I don't know how anyone could possibly see this offense winning a championship. Ever. They would do better just to go dust off the playbooks from the 1970's or late 1990's-early 2000's with Bettis.

Can anyone on the line pull and block? You have Heyward and Washington to plow the road.

This doing the same nonsense over and over for 4 years will never amount to anything. They're wasting everyone's time with that crap.
 
I think it was the first play after halftime. Kenny rolls out to the right.....and I think,finally they are rolling him out to pass on the run and alleviate The rush up the middle. Half time adjustments. Kenny throws one of his worst passes of the night directly to a Brown. It should have been picked.

I’m not gonna kid myself. I am very disappointed in Kenny’s progress. I expected a lot more. Yes Canada has got to go.
Kenny hasn’t been any better. I certainly haven’t given up on him,but it’s time to see some improvement.


Get some OC improvement and you will see QB play improvement.


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Also I notice we're in shotgun a ton, and running Najee on stretch plays from shotgun. Why aren't we running under center more, and running Najee up the middle? Living in shotgun doesn't help the run game, especially when the OLine isn't getting the push or opening up holes like you'd need. Sometimes you just got to tell you're lineman, you gotta drive these guys back and run some straight at the guard and C from under center. This college spread **** isn't working. I'd be running tons of 2 TE sets showing the same look running up the middle and mixing in play action off of it. Idfk know what the offensive plan is tbh, it's basically a game plan scribbled on the walls of a padded cell which is where Canada belongs
 
Again this is on Canada. When 90% of your pass plays are within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage the entire d is compressed. This is why no one is open on pass plays. no one can run the ball and our online can’t block. We say we played the 2 best defense teams. Nope. Watch the last 3 years, every team plays us the same way with same results, whether it is Pickett, Mitch or Ben. This is all scheme
Didn't we draft a monster TE? I counted 1 catch for 2 yards out of the position last night. TE has always been an afterthought to the Steelers and stubbornness dies hard.
 
I am not a Canada fan. But it’s not like his route concepts aren’t widely used in the NFL. In fact, that is my biggest problem with him. He doesn’t innovate. He actually had a nice triple option jet sweep I only saw ran like once last year. Went for 20+ yards. Actually, a nice design. I don’t think I’ve seen it ran since. Also, we never fake a jet sweep then pass. Then we never put new wrinkles in. You should have your staple of plays that you run and run so well that it doesn't matter than the other team has seen the tape because you run a dozen plays from that formation and you run them so well that you win more than lose. Then you put in a few new wrinkles so when they think they know they don't, and you have a half a dozen plays that if ran correctly should be wins. We don't seem to do that. And we don't seem to run our staple of plays very well. The lack of preparation and the laziness in some of the route running is just ridiculous. Even that big TD from Pickens it wasn't some great route ran. It seems the CB expected safety help and just gave him the inside. The only truly great route runner we have is DJ. The lack of preparation and the lack of emphasis on the little things piss me off. Those two things are on Tomlin imo. If you see a guy running lazy routes you need to get on his ***. And looking at the offense since Tomlin fired Arians has been predicated on these really short routes. imo this is what Tomlin wants from his offense. A lot of 5-7 yard routes to keep the chains moving. Obviously, not working. So I am all for a new OC but there's two things that need to change and improve. One, QB play. Say what you want but people were open. That first INT Freiermuth was open on a post. Pickett stared down his receiver for an easy INT. He's young, 15 starts, needs to learn from that. Lots of passes were thrown behind or low or too far in front. Accuracy and his inconsistency is my biggest concern. Usually, college QB's have the accuracy they just throw stupid passes or don't look off safeties. Things that can be taught. Things that you get away with in College Football you don't get away with in the NFL. Those are just teachable moments. So his INT though infuriating I am less concerned with. The accuracy is a huge problem. I don't know you can teach accuracy or arm strength once you hit the NFL. Brock Purdy worked with a QB coach/trainer named Will Hewlett. I have no idea who he was before about December of last year. He literally retrained Brock to a new throwing motion. Pretty unheard of for a guy who was a 4 year starter throwing nearly 1500 college passes. At that point you are what you are and the NFL team won't try to reinvent the wheel. Not Hewlett. He did analytics and diagnosed the weaknesses in Purdy's throwing motion. Purdy was a very accurate thrower in college averaging 67.7% and having nearly 72% as a senior. But his arm strength was pretty pedestrian. So they revamped his throwing motion to get rid of wasted motion and to increase velocity by 5 mph. That is huge in the NFL. So if I am the Steelers I am hiring Will Hewlett as a consultant coach to come in and work with Kenny this offseason. Day one of the offseason I want him living and breathing football with that dude. I want him to come into 2024 with Peyton Manning type accuracy. And I think Kenny is a very hard worker so I feel like if you gave him a coach like that to learn from he is going to absorb it like a sponge.
Two. Preparation and innovation on offense. If Tomlin can't do it find someone who will. Throw this coaching staff out and start over.
 
1st it was Bens fault, he didnt fit into Matts scheme.....just wait for Kenny then we will see.
What is it now? We are gonna catch the defense off guard with plays so dumb the defense would never think we would run them. Well, I think they are on to us.
How about the "Special Teams" offense
Lets try punting on 1st down and scoring with the defense and Boz. Imagine the money we could save, our defense would have so much depth. They say defense wins championships. :)
 
I am not a Canada fan. But it’s not like his route concepts aren’t widely used in the NFL. In fact, that is my biggest problem with him. He doesn’t innovate. He actually had a nice triple option jet sweep I only saw ran like once last year. Went for 20+ yards. Actually, a nice design. I don’t think I’ve seen it ran since. Also, we never fake a jet sweep then pass. Then we never put new wrinkles in. You should have your staple of plays that you run and run so well that it doesn't matter than the other team has seen the tape because you run a dozen plays from that formation and you run them so well that you win more than lose. Then you put in a few new wrinkles so when they think they know they don't, and you have a half a dozen plays that if ran correctly should be wins. We don't seem to do that. And we don't seem to run our staple of plays very well. The lack of preparation and the laziness in some of the route running is just ridiculous. Even that big TD from Pickens it wasn't some great route ran. It seems the CB expected safety help and just gave him the inside. The only truly great route runner we have is DJ. The lack of preparation and the lack of emphasis on the little things piss me off. Those two things are on Tomlin imo. If you see a guy running lazy routes you need to get on his ***. And looking at the offense since Tomlin fired Arians has been predicated on these really short routes. imo this is what Tomlin wants from his offense. A lot of 5-7 yard routes to keep the chains moving. Obviously, not working. So I am all for a new OC but there's two things that need to change and improve. One, QB play. Say what you want but people were open. That first INT Freiermuth was open on a post. Pickett stared down his receiver for an easy INT. He's young, 15 starts, needs to learn from that. Lots of passes were thrown behind or low or too far in front. Accuracy and his inconsistency is my biggest concern. Usually, college QB's have the accuracy they just throw stupid passes or don't look off safeties. Things that can be taught. Things that you get away with in College Football you don't get away with in the NFL. Those are just teachable moments. So his INT though infuriating I am less concerned with. The accuracy is a huge problem. I don't know you can teach accuracy or arm strength once you hit the NFL. Brock Purdy worked with a QB coach/trainer named Will Hewlett. I have no idea who he was before about December of last year. He literally retrained Brock to a new throwing motion. Pretty unheard of for a guy who was a 4 year starter throwing nearly 1500 college passes. At that point you are what you are and the NFL team won't try to reinvent the wheel. Not Hewlett. He did analytics and diagnosed the weaknesses in Purdy's throwing motion. Purdy was a very accurate thrower in college averaging 67.7% and having nearly 72% as a senior. But his arm strength was pretty pedestrian. So they revamped his throwing motion to get rid of wasted motion and to increase velocity by 5 mph. That is huge in the NFL. So if I am the Steelers I am hiring Will Hewlett as a consultant coach to come in and work with Kenny this offseason. Day one of the offseason I want him living and breathing football with that dude. I want him to come into 2024 with Peyton Manning type accuracy. And I think Kenny is a very hard worker so I feel like if you gave him a coach like that to learn from he is going to absorb it like a sponge.
Two. Preparation and innovation on offense. If Tomlin can't do it find someone who will. Throw this coaching staff out and start over.

I just want a staff that innovates and adapts rather than beats a square peg in a round hole… and I hate the concept that pro level coaches should not teach… they all should be developing guys every day
 
Someone just told me that Canada has been our OC for 36 games now. We have over 20 pts just 10 times. Think about that in todays NFL.
 
Cleveland Crybaby Radio played a quote from Watt ...."thankfully I was able to scoop it up and run for a TD" (paraphrase)


Makes you wonder if there was a hidden message pointing to the ineptness of the offense. lol
 
Again this is on Canada. When 90% of your pass plays are within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage the entire d is compressed. This is why no one is open on pass plays. no one can run the ball and our online can’t block. We say we played the 2 best defense teams. Nope. Watch the last 3 years, every team plays us the same way with same results, whether it is Pickett, Mitch or Ben. This is all scheme
The bad scheme is alot of it but you cannot ignore how terrible Kenny's accuracy and decision making has been. That sideline attempt to Harris in double coverage the defender literally dropped a gimmie pick.
Regardless of bad scheme the coaches don't control decision making or accuracy.
kenny is Awful.
 
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