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The Coronavirus thread

Coronavirus could double number of people going hungry

Food supplies across the world will be “massively disrupted” by the coronavirus, and unless governments act the number of people suffering chronic hunger could double, some of the world’s biggest food companies have warned.

Unilever, Nestlé and PepsiCo, along with farmers’ organisations, the UN Foundation, academics, and civil society groups, have written to world leaders, calling on them to keep borders open to trade in order to help society’s most vulnerable, and to invest in environmentally sustainable food production.

They urge governments to “take urgent coordinated action to prevent the Covid-19 pandemic turning into a global food and humanitarian crisis”. Maintaining open trade will be key, as will investing in food supply chains and protecting farmers in the developed and developing world, they say.

The G20 is coming under increasing pressure to act: a group of Nobel prize-winning economists and former senior development bank officials wrote to the forum advising that trillions of dollars would be needed to help the developing world cope with the Covid-19 pandemic. This week more than 100 former heads of government, including Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and Nicolas Sarkozy, also called on the G20 to act urgently or risk recurrent outbreaks.

However, little coordinated action has been agreed. The UN Food and Agriculture Organisation is increasingly worried that, although harvests are good and enough food is being produced to feed the world, export restrictions or tariffs by some governments could create shortages.

The urgent warning from food industry leaders comes as some countries have begin to restrict certain foods. Curbs on the movement of people, because of lockdowns, also threatens to create shortages of farm labour at a crucial time of year for many crops.

“The risk of major interruptions to food supplies over the coming months is growing, especially for low-income net-food-importing countries, many of which are in sub-Saharan Africa,” the food industry leaders warn in their letter.

Ports and borders must be kept open to the food trade, they urge, and big food exporting nations “must make it clear that they will continue to fully supply international markets and customers”.

The business leaders also want investment in local food production, treating farmers, people working in food processing and all parts of the food supply chain as key workers. Small farmers may need access to credit to keep producing, and the letter calls on banks and major companies to help them.

As people lose their jobs, or their income falls because of the lockdowns or ill health, hunger is likely to increase. “It would not be hard to envisage scenarios in which the number of people suffering from hunger on a daily basis, already estimated at over 800 million, doubles over the coming months, with a huge risk of increased malnutrition and child stunting,” the food companies warn.

Targeted food aid programmes, from the government, private sector and charities, will be needed, as well as income safety nets, the letter says. Cash assistance should be directed urgently to the developing world, and this must go far beyond the debt relief some countries have suggested.

Food distribution would also be key, Wanjira Mathai, director for Africa at the World Resources Institute, said. “We must ensure that supply and distribution chains can guarantee the delivery of food to the most vulnerable of our populations, especially in densely populated urban settlements, while at the same time containing Covid-19,” she said.

“A vital part of this includes investing in and supporting the last mile of distribution, so that food can reach people’s homes and not get stuck in central food stores.”

As governments prepare to help their economies recover from the coronavirus crisis, they should invest in making the food system more environmentally and socially sustainable, the letter says. That will require new investment and the reform of existing subsidies, nurturing agricultural land to keep it fertile, and a focus on nutritious and affordable food production, as well as ways to cut down on food waste.

“Today’s food system is fragile, due to chronic under-investment, the over-depletion of natural resources, and the partial misallocation of over $700bn (564bn) of annual support measures,” the signatories warn. “There is no short-term fix to these challenges, but we can seize the opportunity to recover in a better and stronger way.”

They advocate developing regional food supply networks, and providing free healthcare and income support, as well as investment in new technologies. Rich countries should help the poor to achieve this.

“Getting the food system right is central to a resilient recovery across the world, creating the potential for millions of new jobs, less hunger, greater food security and better management of key natural resources: soil, water, forests and the oceans,” the letter concludes.

The companies behind the letter are also taking their own action on the Covid-19 crisis. Nestlé is working with the Red Cross, giving food, medical nutrition products and bottled water for humanitarian relief, donating 10m Swiss francs (£8.2m) for the countries most in need. PepsiCo has donated $45m to developed and developing countries, and is supplying 50m meals to food banks, while Unilever is donating $100m of its products and extending $500m in credit to its small-scale producers.

The letter is being sent to the leaders of the G7 and the G20, and to other countries.
 
Hot mic catches reporters discussing the actual low mortality rates and saying 'so it was all a hoax?'


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I was told haven’t read this yet, but a high number of the deaths have been people that are morbidly obese. Anyone heard this?
 
I was told haven’t read this yet, but a high number of the deaths have been people that are morbidly obese. Anyone heard this?

The virus screws with the ability for blood to carry oxygen... that makes the heart work harder, therefore anyone with it who does of a heart attack is listed as a coronavirus death, and morbidly obese people are the leading category for that
 
Yeah but that study wasn’t the cocktail it was just part of the recommended treatment from south korea...

Again tge pushback on this is really being lead by pharmaceutical companies who want a pricey treatment not a preexisting cheap one

To which cocktail are you referring?
 
The drumbeat of this purportedly even worse second wave is getting louder. Too loud IMO, and the most obvious reason for it is to extend the crisis as long as possible in order to affect the election. Thankfully, it seems like Trump is ready to call bullshit on any further extreme restrictions on freedom and commerce.
 
Yeah but that study wasn’t the cocktail it was just part of the recommended treatment from south korea...

Again tge pushback on this is really being lead by pharmaceutical companies who want a pricey treatment not a preexisting cheap one

There's been a lot of mixed results in various studies. The first question I would ask was who was getting it and who wasn't? Were they only giving it to the sickest patients? That might explain the difference in death rates.

I'm not touting it necessarily just think it needs a lot more study.
 
I believe its the hydroxychloroquine-azithromycin-zinc combination.

This is correct, but it was a poor test. It was a small sample and not very well conducted from what i read
 
The drumbeat of this purportedly even worse second wave is getting louder. Too loud IMO, and the most obvious reason for it is to extend the crisis as long as possible in order to affect the election. Thankfully, it seems like Trump is ready to call bullshit on any further extreme restrictions on freedom and commerce.

The question is who would it effect most Trump or Biden? Trumps supporters are more hard core and i think would be more likely to vote. I really don't want to see or have a mail in election. No matter who wins it will be ugly and there will be accusations and conspiracy theories about the election being fixed.
 
The drumbeat of this purportedly even worse second wave is getting louder. Too loud IMO, and the most obvious reason for it is to extend the crisis as long as possible in order to affect the election. Thankfully, it seems like Trump is ready to call bullshit on any further extreme restrictions on freedom and commerce.

The question is who would it effect most Trump or Biden? Trumps supporters are more hard core and i think would be more likely to vote. I really don't want to see or have a mail in election. No matter who wins it will be ugly and there will be accusations and conspiracy theories about the election being fixed.
 
I was told haven’t read this yet, but a high number of the deaths have been people that are morbidly obese. Anyone heard this?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...e-new-yorks-obesity-is-a-factor-idUSKBN21K1B0

Some 97% of those killed by COVID-19 in Louisiana had a pre-existing condition, according to the state health department. Diabetes was seen in 40% of the deaths, obesity in 25%, chronic kidney disease in 23% and cardiac problems in 21%.

https://www.the-hospitalist.org/hos.../comorbidities-rule-new-yorks-covid-19-deaths

As of midnight on April 6, there had been 5,489 fatalities caused by COVID-19 in the state, of which 86.2% (4,732) had at least one underlying condition, the New York State Department of Health reported April 7 on its COVID-19 tracker.

The leading comorbidity, seen in 55.4% of all deaths, was hypertension. In comparison, a recent estimate from the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services put the prevalence of high blood pressure at about 45% in the overall adult population.

In New York, the rest of the 10 most common comorbidities in COVID-19 fatalities were diabetes (37.3%), hyperlipidemia (18.5%), coronary artery disease (12.4%), renal disease (11.0%), dementia (9.1%), chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (8.3%), cancer (8.1%), atrial fibrillation (7.1%), and heart failure (7.1%), the NYSDOH said.
 
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There's been a lot of mixed results in various studies. The first question I would ask was who was getting it and who wasn't? Were they only giving it to the sickest patients? That might explain the difference in death rates.

I'm not touting it necessarily just think it needs a lot more study.

It's has been pretty much established that Hydrox doen't work by itself. These patients were not prescribed the key ingredient...ZINC!
It is the combination three components that doctors have been touting.

There was no zinc administered to these patients.

“We performed a retrospective analysis of data from patients hospitalized with confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection in all United States Veterans Health Administration medical centers until April 11, 2020,” the researchers explained. Some 97 patients had been treated with just hydroxycholoroquine, 113 were treated with hydroxycholoroquine and the antibiotic azithromycin and 158 received “standard supportive management” for COVID-19

Now check this out:


Report this morning about a doctor in LA who saw benefits on his serious ill patients using HCQ + Zinc. https://abc7news.com/coronavirus-drug-covid-19-malaria-hydroxychloroquine/6079864/
This doctor says he found HCQ only works if combined with zinc.
It’s what I was saying earlier – maybe the trials of HCQ are so spotty because it only works on patients that have enough serum zinc to transport into the cells.
“Sunday, April 5, 2020 8:48PM
LOS ANGELES — A Los Angeles doctor said he is seeing significant success in prescribing the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine in combination with zinc to treat patients with severe symptoms of COVID-19…
Dr. Anthony Cardillo said he has seen very promising results when prescribing hydroxychloroquine in combination with zinc for the most severely-ill COVID-19 patients.
“Every patient I’ve prescribed it to has been very, very ill and within 8 to 12 hours, they were basically symptom-free,” Cardillo told Eyewitness News. “So clinically I am seeing a resolution.”
He said he has found it only works if combined with zinc. The drug, he said, opens a channel for the zinc to enter the cell and block virus replication.
He added that the drug should not be prescribed for those who are presenting only mild symptoms, as there are concerns about shortages for patients with other conditions who need to take the drug on a regular basis.

1. 1. Treatment with HCQ and zinc only – Dr. Cardillo




1. LA doctor seeing success with hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19
https://abc7news.com/coronavirus-drug-covid-19-malaria-hydroxychloroquine/6079864/

2. With HCQ+AZ+Zn
NY Dr. Vladimir Zelenko: Cocktail of HCQ, Zinc Sulfate and Azithromycin showing phenomenal results with 900 coronavirus patients treated – https://tinyurl.com/HCQ-Zinc-Zelenko

3. Nevada MD explains why zinc ionophore therapy works
https://www.theepochtimes.com/old-drug-may-provide-promising-new-treatment-for-covid-19_3277523.html

(2020). Does Zinc Supplementation Enhance the Clinical Efficacy of Chloroquine/Hydroxychloroquine to Win Todays Battle Against COVID-19?. 10.20944/preprints202004.0124.v1.

Currently, drug repurposing is an alternative to novel drug development for the treatment of COVID-19 patients. The antimalarial drug chloroquine (CQ) and its metabolite hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) are currently being tested in several clinical studies as potential candidates to limit SARS-CoV-2-mediated morbidity and mortality. CQ and HCQ (CQ/HCQ) inhibit pH-dependent steps of SARS-CoV-2 replication by increasing pH in intracellular vesicles and interfere with virus particle delivery into host cells. Besides direct antiviral effects, CQ/HCQ specifically target extracellular zinc to intracellular lysosomes where it interferes with RNA-dependent RNA polymerase activity and coronavirus replication. As zinc deficiency frequently occurs in elderly patients and in those with cardiovascular disease, chronic pulmonary disease, or diabetes, we hypothesize that CQ/HCQ plus zinc supplementation may be more effective in reducing COVID-19 morbidity and mortality than CQ or HCQ in monotherapy. Therefore, CQ/HCQ in combination with zinc should be considered as additional study arm for COVID-19 clinical tri





• als.
https://www.researchgate.net/public...roquine_to_Win_Todays_Battle_Against_COVID-19







References
1. Magdalena Jarosz, et al. Antioxidant and anti-inflammatory effects of zinc. Zinc-dependent NF-κB signaling.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5306179/
2. https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2019.02347/full
3. https://academic.oup.com/advances/article/10/4/696/5476413
4. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6548996/





• Administration of Hydroxychloroquine + Azithromycin does NOT stop the increase in viral load.

ZINC SULFATE is the chemical compound that stops the viral load increase.

SO, the “drug cocktail” to treat COVID-19 patients is : hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin+ZINC SULFATE.

ZINC SULFATE is the “key” and why it is capitalized.

COVID-19 patients are being SAVED in NY, FL, MI, and CA. I “know for a fact” that ZINC SULFATE was included in the New York and California “drug cocktails.” Given the extremely fast improvement in breathing in the Florida and Michigan patients, I assume ZINC SULFATE was included.

I do not think Dr. OZ is pedaling “CRAP.” I believe any treatment that involves hydroxychloroquine is resisted BECAUSE “Doctor” TRUMP uttered the word “hydroxychloroquine.”

I conclude that Liberals would rather diminish Trump than save lives.

Hydroxychloriquine opens the doors (if you will) on the cell membrane, which allows ZINC Sulfate to enter the cell and interrupt the mitochondria. This stops cell replication. Honestly, the whole article appears to be mostly slanted against hydroxychloriquine. Maybe if the author were to look a little further into which meds in combination were 100% effective instead of just one insignificant example with only 2 of the 3 drugs (missing the most important-ZINC),
 
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ah, Dimly, you again avoided the direct question.

When do you think restrictions should be lifted? Give a precise date.

It depends on the region and the level of certainty that the region won’t see a resurgence. Again, it has nothing to do with frustration and people losing their patience. Good luck to the Governors who experience a resurgence and need to shut everything back down.
 
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