At this point, keeping the country locked down is purely idiotic.
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Well, your chapped *** is quite obvious. Do you really think I see your disagreement with authorities who are much more educated and successful than you are as some kind of beat down? Please. You’d rather defy a reality you don’t like than deal with it.
I know that it would take a long time to learn what the expert know so I listen to them, especially in the absence of credible dissent.
Read what Paul Romer has to say about testing and opening up society.
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Hey, as long as no more money is borrowed and there are no expectations for the American public to repay the money they have borrowed, quarantine indefinitely.
But I don't want to hear complaints about people losing their homes or starving.
And let's not get stupid and think it's reasonable to ask mail carriers to be out and about in this death-soup atmosphere. Best to suspend elections indefinitely until we have gone at least 12 months with no new cases.
But I don't want to hear complaints about people losing their homes or starving.
And let's not get stupid and think it's reasonable to ask mail carriers to be out and about in this death-soup atmosphere. Best to suspend elections indefinitely until we have gone at least 12 months with no new cases.
The first question I would ask is, "Was it reported by CNN?" If the answer is yes, then I would just forget about it.
Yes, let's wait until we are conducting 20 to 30 million tests a day before we go back to work.
Brilliant.
Save for the fact we will have no work to go back to.
Convenient for someone like him to say, who's net worth is estimated between $1-$5Million. He has the luxury of being able to ride this out.
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The shelter in place was to "flatten the curve" so that our medical facilities wouldn't be overrun. We're past that. Apparently some people think we all need to stay in our houses until the virus goes away.
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All the experts don't agree. So people are picking and choosing which ones they want to listen too. Sweden has experts as well. There are experts in the U.S. that think the country should never have shut down at all. But people don't want to believe them so they dismiss them. There is no consensus on this.
Also testing millions of people, when you don't know if the IgG antibody works against a second outbreak, is laughable. So even if you've had the virus we don't know if the antibodies produced will help if re-infected. We also don't know who has been infected, who hasn't been infected and who could be re-infected. The idea that the U.S. must wait until it answers all those question is ignorant. We can't wait for months until the "experts" figure it all out. Until then there is no reason to test except to see if someone needs treatment. Eventually science will figure it out and then the other testing can start IF it's necessary. But we can't wait for that now.
Most opposing some return to normalcy, and a return of Americans to jobs where they get paid, are currently making a ****-ton of money without interruption and are very comfortable with the great unwashed being locked in their homes - government employees, journalists, politicians.
Fat **** Brian Stelter cries his little eyes out this past Friday? "Boo-hoo, virus, waaaaah." Why, because the laundry could not get jelly donut stains out of his 18 1/2 - 32 shirt? Because his favorite gourmet ice cream shop may not return to business until May 15? Oh, no, poor fat Brian and his long-lost hairline are crying over the current state of America, and those stupid slobs not as smart as Stelter who have lost their jobs.
So how about allowing healthy Americans return to work, fat **** Stelter?
Nope. The occasional "lockdown, lockdown, lockdown" as a very brief respite from the endless "Trump is a murderer! Trump's fault, China did nothing wrong! All blame to Trump, all the time, Russia, collusion, oh my!!"
So fat **** Stelter continues to make loads of money for being fat, wrong, stupid, and bald (difficult at times to tell which he is best at), in his role (borrowing from Tucker here) as "Jeff Zucker's eunuch."
Oh, be brave, you poet-warrior, you donut-hero, Brian "Eunuch" Stelter, the liberal communist gods at mediamatters and Jeff Zucker's personal valet will continue to watch your show, now that airports are empty.
So stop crying you fat ***** and root for America to re-open.
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At least oil didn't get killed again.
So there's that.
So there's that.
Hiring people? More money directed to people in the know.
Lets take the gas station attendant that I spoke to last night. He comes into contact with a couple of hundred people per shift. If he tests positive how could his contacts possibly be traced? The whole thing is an exercise in futility, with useless results.
There are plenty of health officials who believe this shutdown is ridiculous.
A couple of years ago the flu vaccine was found to be about 47% effective. So if only about 60% of people choose to get vaccinated, and only 47% of those people are actually protected, that means about 27% of the population was actually protected. How in the world did we ever survive that?
so would you suggest the South Koreans are not doing what they can to slow the spread of the virus? Rather than read what some guy whom you agree with says, why not look at the success stories of countries dealing with the rona?
SK has 10,694 cases and all of 238 deaths.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/south-korea/
"well, obviously they sheltered in place, stayed in their pajamas and hid under their kitchen tables from this awful virus!"
right?
yeah, no.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/the-comforts-of-south-koreas-coronavirus-response
read that again, diply...
ah, but they're staying ahead by quarantining those infected (which is what many here are suggesting)
from the same link:
Also from the same ******* link:
isnt that precisely to the letter what OrangeManBad tried to do? yet your beloved unflappable ice-cream idiot eating Dimshits were instead passing bills top ban the sale of flavored tobacco.
#TrueStory
yeah, you might want to see what other experts have to say.
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Thanks to all of them.
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Factory team clocks out after 28 days of live-in work making coronavirus protective material
MARCUS HOOK, Pa. (WPVI/CNN) - After nearly a month of 12-hour shifts making equipment for healthcare workers, more than 40 employees in Pennsylvania were finally able to go home.
More than 40 workers at Braskem America in Delaware County, Pennsylvania, unanimously decided in March to leave their families and agreed to eat, sleep and live at the facility where they make equipment for healthcare workers.
For 28 days straight, the team worked 12-hour shifts in two groups, making polypropylene, the raw materials used to produce a non-woven fiber used to make N95 masks, hospital gowns and sanitary wipes.
TV and the occasional drive-by visit from family members were their only contact with the outside world.
But on Sunday, the team was finally able to clock out.
"There's been a glow in everyone's eyes," said operations shift supervisor, Joe Boyce. "We're truly honored to be able to give back and support people we will never meet in some way."
To a degree, the moment was bittersweet, Boyce says, as the team is realizing the world around them has changed significantly in the past month.
"We've almost been the lucky ones, I'll say, for the last 28 days because I haven't had to stand six feet from somebody. I haven't had to put a mask on," he said.
But it's a small price to pay, knowing the work they've all put forth is making a difference in the battle against COVID-19.
“All the first responders, all the people on the frontlines, we thank you for what you’ve done. That’s what makes our job easy to do,” Boyce said.
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Factory team clocks out after 28 days of live-in work making coronavirus protective material
MARCUS HOOK, Pa. (WPVI/CNN) - After nearly a month of 12-hour shifts making equipment for healthcare workers, more than 40 employees in Pennsylvania were finally able to go home.
More than 40 workers at Braskem America in Delaware County, Pennsylvania, unanimously decided in March to leave their families and agreed to eat, sleep and live at the facility where they make equipment for healthcare workers.
For 28 days straight, the team worked 12-hour shifts in two groups, making polypropylene, the raw materials used to produce a non-woven fiber used to make N95 masks, hospital gowns and sanitary wipes.
TV and the occasional drive-by visit from family members were their only contact with the outside world.
But on Sunday, the team was finally able to clock out.
"There's been a glow in everyone's eyes," said operations shift supervisor, Joe Boyce. "We're truly honored to be able to give back and support people we will never meet in some way."
To a degree, the moment was bittersweet, Boyce says, as the team is realizing the world around them has changed significantly in the past month.
"We've almost been the lucky ones, I'll say, for the last 28 days because I haven't had to stand six feet from somebody. I haven't had to put a mask on," he said.
But it's a small price to pay, knowing the work they've all put forth is making a difference in the battle against COVID-19.
“All the first responders, all the people on the frontlines, we thank you for what you’ve done. That’s what makes our job easy to do,” Boyce said.
The Kenyan ********** should be hanging from a rope.
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But they tested Soup! They tested people! And knowing who has it means others won't get it, don't you know?
Her response is difficult to fathom...she's...punishing people for disagreeing with her dictate. This is the same Governor who forbade the sale of child car seats as being non-essential.
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Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer rips protesters who may have spread virus, extended closure
The 4,000 protesters who jammed Michigan’s capital of Lansing last week could be responsible for extending the state's tough stay-at-home policy by spreading the coronavirus, according to Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.
The governor expressed dismay at last Wednesday’s “Operation Gridlock” protest of her orders. She cited people not wearing masks, standing 6 feet apart, and giving things to children “barehanded.”
She told a Washington Post Facebook Live interview with Robert Costa that they could have picked up the virus and taken it home to areas where it hasn’t shown up yet.
“We had a lot of people show up who were not wearing masks, who were not staying 6 feet apart. I saw adults handing things to children barehanded. And we know that this kind of activity flies in the face of all the best science, including the scientists that are standing up at the nightly briefing with the president,” she said in answering a question about President Trump’s tweet, “Liberate Michigan.”
Local reports put the crowd at more than 4,000 and that most stayed in their cars.
She said that while she respects the right to protest, the goal of ending the stay-at-home order was not achieved — and could have backfired.
Whitmer said, “To see this play out was really unfortunate, and I worry that while I respect their right to dissent and to demonstrate, so long as they are doing it responsibly and they are not endangering themselves or other people, I respect that."
"But to see people come from across the state and converge, to stay that close to one another, to congregate like that, and then to go back into different parts of the state is very concerning because I know the purported rationale for it was they don’t like the stay-at-home order," she said. "And yet, that activity might necessitate lengthening the stay-at-home order because they’ve brought COVID-19 into parts of the state where it wasn’t prevalent before. That’s going to be a problem for us.”
Whitmer said she asked Vice President Mike Pence this week to have the White House coronavirus team to reiterate the anti-virus rules.
She also told Costa that while she believes Joe Biden is a “wonderful guy,” his team has not asked for documents or papers that would be used to vet her for his vice presidential pick.
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Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer rips protesters who may have spread virus, extended closure
The 4,000 protesters who jammed Michigan’s capital of Lansing last week could be responsible for extending the state's tough stay-at-home policy by spreading the coronavirus, according to Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.
The governor expressed dismay at last Wednesday’s “Operation Gridlock” protest of her orders. She cited people not wearing masks, standing 6 feet apart, and giving things to children “barehanded.”
She told a Washington Post Facebook Live interview with Robert Costa that they could have picked up the virus and taken it home to areas where it hasn’t shown up yet.
“We had a lot of people show up who were not wearing masks, who were not staying 6 feet apart. I saw adults handing things to children barehanded. And we know that this kind of activity flies in the face of all the best science, including the scientists that are standing up at the nightly briefing with the president,” she said in answering a question about President Trump’s tweet, “Liberate Michigan.”
Local reports put the crowd at more than 4,000 and that most stayed in their cars.
She said that while she respects the right to protest, the goal of ending the stay-at-home order was not achieved — and could have backfired.
Whitmer said, “To see this play out was really unfortunate, and I worry that while I respect their right to dissent and to demonstrate, so long as they are doing it responsibly and they are not endangering themselves or other people, I respect that."
"But to see people come from across the state and converge, to stay that close to one another, to congregate like that, and then to go back into different parts of the state is very concerning because I know the purported rationale for it was they don’t like the stay-at-home order," she said. "And yet, that activity might necessitate lengthening the stay-at-home order because they’ve brought COVID-19 into parts of the state where it wasn’t prevalent before. That’s going to be a problem for us.”
Whitmer said she asked Vice President Mike Pence this week to have the White House coronavirus team to reiterate the anti-virus rules.
She also told Costa that while she believes Joe Biden is a “wonderful guy,” his team has not asked for documents or papers that would be used to vet her for his vice presidential pick.
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There's just so much illogical bullshit going on...from the sudden jump in reporting of "probable" covid-19 deaths to the idea that we are going to ramp up testing yet we're supposed to wait to see a "drop in new infections"...even as we are finding out that there are probably way more people infected than we imagined. It seems there are forces at work that want this thing to seem as awful as possible and drag it out as long as possible. Opening things up may not create a dramatic spike in cases and that would be a disaster for those who want this to be dragged out longer. So they are fighting it tooth and nail. Let's make sure we completely vilify and threaten anyone who suggests any kind of reasonable measures to get things going...
So much misinformation and twisting of information and politicizing...on both sides of course but the FEAR is being pushed hard by the left.
I don't actually trust that we are getting the facts from anyone.
Maybe I'm completely wrong and opening things up will be disastrous. But from everything I've read and seen I really don't think so.
We'll see.
So much misinformation and twisting of information and politicizing...on both sides of course but the FEAR is being pushed hard by the left.
I don't actually trust that we are getting the facts from anyone.
Maybe I'm completely wrong and opening things up will be disastrous. But from everything I've read and seen I really don't think so.
We'll see.
Remember when you didn't have to wear face masks, because they were only needed if you were infected? It's magic......now we all need to wear them. WTF?
We are being fed a ton load of ****.
Trog will be along very soon to explain why a month ago using masks was futile but is now necessary because he listens to the experts...and they say so.
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2 million deaths! 200,000 deaths! 140,000 deaths!
Oh, you're doing a great job social distancing! 85,000 deaths!
Oh, you must be doing a really, really great job! 68,000 deaths!
er, um 60,000 deaths!
We're gonna run out of hospital beds! (Nope)
We're gonna run out of ICU beds! (Nope)
We're gonna run out of ventilators! (Nope)
We need to slow the spread!
We need to flatten the curve!
We need to squash the curve!
We need to slow new infections!
We need no new infections!
We need a vaccine!
Everyone who didn't lock down is going to spike like crazy! (Nope)
Sweden will rue the day! (Nope)
Every prediction of doom has been wrong.
But we are still supposed to believe every new prediction of doom.
The bar to get back to normal life keeps moving.
Something is wrong.
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There's no need to pick on Spike now.
Georgia will be the guinea pig starting Friday, unless they're stopped by media pressure.
It sounds really crazy and not usually heard uttered but I'm really lucky to live in Iowa. Our governor has stood her ground. I dont really watch TV anymore but I did see a press conference she held a couple of weeks ago. She said she couldnt do it, lock Iowa down. She looked haggard compared to her "normal" self. I thought oh my, I bet they are riding her *** on this. Still no lockdown. That's not to say non-essential businesses aren't closed and half the state is working at home, they are. However, i can take my family on a bike ride on one of our many nice trails without the Gestapo coming down on us. They closed the camp grounds though and refunded our coveted Memorial day reservations. Social distancing at the camp ground woulsnt have been tough.