The Coronavirus thread
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This is 100% my point of view too...
The Chinese acted super paranoid about it at first... covering it up and probably mass murdering people with it... those weren’t the actions of a country that intentionally released it. It makes no sense for them to intentionally tank their economy and risk their international status for a people culling, and if this was meant as an attack on the USA, wouldn’t it be best originated away from china or at least away from a Chinese lab?
The Nationalists were winning a worldwide movement. While they are definitely capitalizing on this as a method to reignite isolationism, there is no way they risk their momentum to do it
Same with Republicans, they were ready to steamroll in November... they couldn’t possibly be dumb enough to tank the world for any scenario
The Democrats do have a great bit of political capital to garner from this, but had they done this they wouldn’t have done it in China... Mexico or a bunch of other countries would make much more sense... they are so deeply in bed with China that it hurts them more than virtually every other option
Same with the globalists, who have the most to gain... starting this in China gives the Nationalists way too much narrative points and globalists elitism needs Chinese sweatshops to work
Socialists wouldn’t target an openly communist state either
All of these groups are capitalizing on the virus, but none of them look to have coordinated it... it escaped and people are just using it as a means to a way...
The thing is though, I don't consider them incompetent -- I consider them absolutely corrupt and accountable to no one.
Absolutely. I don't think there's really any other practical explanation given all of the circumstances surrounding China.
Can't wait to hear the Flog rebuttal to this.
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i think they were working on a virus and it got loose. I do think they may have been designing a virus specifically to cull those who are a drain on a communist society, people who can’t work and have high medical costs. But they did not yet have a vaccine for it and it got out early.
so then they tried to make the best of it. How? Make sure everybody else’s economy tanks as well.
I believe that’s what happened. They covered up and wanted other countries to be devastated as well so that China won’t lose in the long run.
I see the same thing here with many people looking to capitalize on a disaster. Pushing through spending that never would have gone through otherwise. Also hoping this can take down Trump.
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The problem is this doesn't cover the current "conspiracy theory" label. One can believe the our politicians are incompetent, while also believing this was not some grand master New World Order plan and still be called a conspiracy theorist because we simply believe the Government is capitalizing on a crisis and lying to us.
For not 100% buying Dr Fauci's agenda, for not buying the models' predictions, for not believing we should be shut down...you are a conspiracy theorist and a denier.
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1. Neither Belgium or the Netherlands are Nordic countries. BOTH are among the worlds most densely populated countries. Almost 20 times more densely populated than Sweden.
2. Denmark, Finland and Norway are Nordic countries and as I have stated, have death rates 3 to 5 times lower than Sweden. Actually, Noway is 7 times lower.
Thanks for the supporting data.
Wow, sounds like you're denying being a denier. That makes you ...
A double denier!!
(Yes, there is such a thing. https://www.cgbfr.com/provence-comt...onat-ou-coronat-reforciat-ttb,v42_0520,a.html)
How about half a denier?
Did you read the rest of the post? As in, "DID NOT DESTROY THE ECONOMY," "NO RETURN OF THE VIRUS DUE TO HERD IMMUNITY," "FIGURES LOWER THAN NEIGHBORS," "EUROPE CONSISTS OF MORE THAN THREE ******* COUNTRIES, DUMBASS," "IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS HAD HIGHER DEATH RATES DESPITE LOCKDOWN," and "LOCKDOWN KILLING MORE THAN THE VIRUS PER EMPIRICAL DATA"?
I'll wait for your reasoned response.
Okay, that's a bit much. I await your ignorant blathering. Once again, setting the bar too high.
Once you try to rebut more than three sentences in my post, I will try to plod through your inane blathering, claiming that only three countries matter where the other nations are less than 100 miles away, are neighbors, share travel and economic interests dating back before the discovery of America, and your whining that the rest of the data I provided hurts you where you point to on the doll so you can ignore it.
Lockdown = failure
Lockdown advocates = failures
Lockdown devotees = embarrassingly inept and stubborn failures
Trog, if the dunce cap fits ...
Hmmm?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vo...74/coronavirus-covid-19-protest-anti-lockdown
Even in larger, less-rural cities in California, groups waved “Trump 2020” flags and marched the streets with signs that read, “No Liberty. No Life.” And these protests only seem to be picking up steam: On Friday, thousands stormed the Wisconsin State Capitol, carrying flags and wearing Tea Party regalia.
But what has been most glaringly obvious about these protests isn’t the far-right theatrics. It’s that almost everyone marching to end stay-at-home orders is white. And if they do return to “regular life” and refuse to distance themselves, their overt disregard will impact the population most vulnerable to the virus — black people.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vo...74/coronavirus-covid-19-protest-anti-lockdown
Even in larger, less-rural cities in California, groups waved “Trump 2020” flags and marched the streets with signs that read, “No Liberty. No Life.” And these protests only seem to be picking up steam: On Friday, thousands stormed the Wisconsin State Capitol, carrying flags and wearing Tea Party regalia.
But what has been most glaringly obvious about these protests isn’t the far-right theatrics. It’s that almost everyone marching to end stay-at-home orders is white. And if they do return to “regular life” and refuse to distance themselves, their overt disregard will impact the population most vulnerable to the virus — black people.
Oh, and Trog - do you deny that the claimed goal of the lockdowns was NOT to prevent people from getting the ******* virus, since even an idiot realizes the lockdown cannot last forever, and instead was meant to avoid the purported "overwhelming" of medical systems that did not happen?
Did not happen in Sweden, with no lockdown?
Did not happen in Iowa, with no lockdown?
Or Nebraska, or Arkansas, or Utah, or Wyoming?
In other words, the entire goddamn justification for the entire ******* lockdown turns out to be wrong, and the damage caused by the lockdown is greater than caused by the ******* virus.
But hey, if Governor Botox says it has to take place, it must be true because science invented botox.
Did not happen in Sweden, with no lockdown?
Did not happen in Iowa, with no lockdown?
Or Nebraska, or Arkansas, or Utah, or Wyoming?
In other words, the entire goddamn justification for the entire ******* lockdown turns out to be wrong, and the damage caused by the lockdown is greater than caused by the ******* virus.
But hey, if Governor Botox says it has to take place, it must be true because science invented botox.
News reporting that 56% of the cases in New York City were people who stayed home.
Let us out. Let us get it. Let us protect your that can’t because you can’t. Free me. Free us.
I have a 92 year old mother who has not seen a family/member guest in 6 weeks. This is unthinkable that we have come to this point.
I am done with this. Done.
I am done with this. Done.
fify
I've seen you site very specific data to the most random, mundane **** imaginable (any topic, any forum). Simple question, do you have a photographic memory? And again, it's a simple yes or no.
I'm so sorry to hear this, I can't even imagine. Just repulsive what's happening.
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LOL!
Germany is also in Europe and is closer to Sweden than the Netherlands and Belgium, odd that you excluded them and their low death rate. Again, multiple times lower than Sweden’s.
Do you really think that the Netherlands and Belgium’s population density of roughly 20 times that of Sweden is irrelevant when comparing the death rate of a contagious disease?
Do you really think that providing more examples of countries that did lockdown and had multiple times lower death rates actually supports your argument?
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Even better, Cuomo reports here that of the around 1,000 hospitalized for COVID-19 over the last three days, 66% stayed home and 90% were not traveling at all. These are the people hospitalized, not just infected.
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2020/05/...rus-cases-were-people-who-stayed-at-home.html
Somehow Cuomo concludes that the lesson is you need to wear mask, use hand sanitizer, and... wait for it.. stay at home! Brilliant!
Time to stop the madness.
Yeah, I can sympathies with that. My wife hurt her knee and was in a wheelchair for a couple weeks during this fiasco and has not seen any of the kids, grandkids or greatgrandkids in a couple months. With her COPD it is not possible for her to break quarantine either so it's sit at home and pile honey-does on Chip until the weather is clear I guess.....lol