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The Coronavirus thread

Like I said GARBAGE!

FIRST ARTICLE IS 2 WEEKS OLD, 2ND IS WORTHLESS,NOT EVEN A MEDICAL REVIEW
you missed the point, not my fault you are having comprehension issues.

With spread in SK, a more modern healthcare system, rates of death were fractions of your headline news. Same in the rest of China, outside Wuhan/Hubei.

Italy is different. Do you know why?

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yeah - Italy was just like us, we dinked around for a month and a half and ignored the warnings from China and how they were on severe lockdown quarantine all over China, they couldn't even open their doors and walk to a store without a permission slip.

US and Italy are what's important, we are on the same trajectory, just 10 days behind

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This is what saved the rest of China, massive, restrictive quarantine

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Tim, again, it's not just the virus itself. What we're dealing with is the global reaction to the virus that may last 3 to 6 months. No matter how you cut it, that's going to have a profound effect on commerce, travel and general way of life for people across the planet.

The human reaction, to this point, has been far worse than the virus itself. The stupidity and ignorance displayed across the globe is a pandemic in itself. Never seen anything like it.
 
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...esstimating-statement-that-100000-people-have

This article leaves you with the feeling DeWine wasn't going off good information.

She sounds like a know nothing buffoon:
"I am not saying there are absolutely for certain 100,000 people, I'm saying I'm guesstimating," the director, Dr. Amy Acton, said at a news conference.
Logic tells you that if there were 100000 infected there would be more than 36 confirmed cases by now.

In the same article a voice of reason:

Tara Smith, a professor of public health at Kent State University, said Friday she thinks Acton's number is “too high,” but said that there could be 1,000 undetected cases in Ohio right now.
 
Tim, again, it's not just the virus itself. What we're dealing with is the global reaction to the virus that may last 3 to 6 months. No matter how you cut it, that's going to have a profound effect on commerce, travel and general way of life for people across the planet.

You missed my entire point. Sarge touched on it a bit.

I'm speaking ABOUT the reaction itself. As Dr. Drew said, it's a panic worse than the virus itself.

I'm more worried about the global reaction. It's going to kill the markets and jobs and everyone is going to be affected. COVID? It's going to be less deadly than the flu.

Why are we behaving this drastically?
 
. COVID? It's going to be less deadly than the flu.

Why are we behaving this drastically?

I'm going to go ahead and disagree here. Nobody knows how deadly this is or isn't going to be. You might believe that, but I don't know how you can say it with certainty.

I think people are behaving drastically because of the unknown. Add to it speculation from political pundits and people seeing other people hoarding and panic buying just leads to more hoarding and panic buying. It's stupid, but so are most Americans.
 
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I'm going to go ahead and disagree here. Nobody knows how deadly this is or isn't going to be. You might believe that, but I don't know how you can say it with certainty.

I think people are behaving drastically because of the unknown. Add to it speculation from political pundits and people seeing other people hoarding and panic buying just leads to more hoarding and panic buying. It's stupid, but so are most Americans.

As I keep saying the ChiComs are not being truthful with the MMR data on this disease. Take it seriously but don't panic.
 
Trump: "Relax, dont worry"

Market p!unges again, DOW down almost 3000
 
I'm going to go ahead and disagree here. Nobody knows how deadly this is or isn't going to be. You might believe that, but I don't know how you can say it with certainty.

I think people are behaving drastically because of the unknown. Add to it speculation from political pundits and people seeing other people hoarding and panic buying just leads to more hoarding and panic buying. It's stupid, but so are most Americans.

I'm taking it from Dr. Drew, you know a MEDICAL doctor:

And we have another awful virus circulating around now and, by the way, if you combine corona and influenza this year, it’s still just a moderate flu season. It’s not even a severe flu season. Wash your hands. Get your flu shot. That should be the story. Wash your hands. Get your flu shot. Every sentence should end with that. Because you’re way, orders of magnitude, more likely to die of the flu than the coronavirus.

I don’t claim to know what’s motivating the media but my god their reporting is absolutely reprehensible. They should be ashamed of themselves. They are creating a panic that is far worse than the viral outbreak. The bottom line everybody is listen to Anthony Fauci of the CDC, do what he tells ya and go about your business. That’s the story.

There’s not one doctor I’ve spoken to who disagrees with me, not one. I ran into an agreement with Dr. Oz last night. He was saying the same thing. We’re all telling you the same thing. STOP LISTENING TO JOURNALISTS.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"Stop listening to journalists. They don't know what they're talking about."<a href="https://twitter.com/drdrew?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DrDrew</a> went on with <a href="https://twitter.com/LarryOConnor?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@LarryOConnor</a> slamming the media for drumming up panic surrounding the coronavirus, urging Americans to listen to Dr. Fauci and the <a href="https://twitter.com/CDCgov?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CDCgov</a>. <a href="https://t.co/omd3CKXrBn">pic.twitter.com/omd3CKXrBn</a></p>— Washington Examiner (@dcexaminer) <a href="https://twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/1238972892760682496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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Im taking it from Dr Drew




How many times you going to post that same bullshit article?

Take a pill, lol

Dr Drew is a ******* CELEBRITY ADDICTION DR


NOT A DISEASE EXPERT, NOT A PUBLIC HEALTH EXPERT AND MOST DEFINITELY NOT A VIROLOGIST


Dr Fauci has CONTRADICTED TRUMP every time he has babbled something stupid, so yes, do listen to him



Trump: 'Take It Easy. Just Relax.'


Dr. Anthony Fauci says he would like to see aggressive measures such as a 14-day national shutdown.

https://time.com/5803504/anthony-fauci-united-states-shutdown/
 
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Just a thought, the psychological impact of the viral hysteria will far outstrip the actual impact of the contagion. Let me draw out some Biblical examples. When the Israelites were in bondage in Egypt, they grew and prospered to the point that they were an existential threat to the hegemony of the host country according to the Biblical account. And yet, when Moses writes of the blessings and curses in Deuteronomy Chapter 28, we get this bit of insight:

15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:

9 Then the Lord will make thy plagues wonderful, and the plagues of thy seed, even great plagues, and of long continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance.

60 Moreover he will bring upon thee all the diseases of Egypt, which thou wast afraid of; and they shall cleave unto thee.

Based upon the thriving demographic of the tribes of Israel and over 1,000,000 I would guess leaving in the Exodus, we still see they were terrorized by fear of plagues from the host country. It's hard wired into our psyche by experience and evolution. In fact, the plagues were turned on the Egyptians in the Exodus. Think about the Rod of Asclepius -- the snake on a pole -- image of the profession of medicine. Remember the story of Moses lifting up the serpent in the wilderness:

Numbers 21:9: "And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived."

Jesus would reference this in John Chapter 3:

13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved."

The real weaponization of a plague or virus is not the plague itself, but the fear of it. The psyop and resulting collective panic and weakening of the populace. When the Israelite spies went into Jericho and were hidden by the harlot Rahab who was justified by faith and later listed in the genealogy of Christ, she said this in Joshua Chapter 2:

8 And before they were laid down, she came up unto them upon the roof;

"9 And she said unto the men, I know that the Lord hath given you the land, and that your terror is fallen upon us, and that all the inhabitants of the land faint because of you.

10 For we have heard how the Lord dried up the water of the Red sea for you, when ye came out of Egypt; and what ye did unto the two kings of the Amorites, that were on the other side Jordan, Sihon and Og, whom ye utterly destroyed.

11 And as soon as we had heard these things, our hearts did melt, neither did there remain any more courage in any man, because of you: for the Lord your God, he is God in heaven above, and in earth beneath.

12 Now therefore, I pray you, swear unto me by the Lord, since I have shewed you kindness, that ye will also shew kindness unto my father's house, and give me a true token:

13 And that ye will save alive my father, and my mother, and my brethren, and my sisters, and all that they have, and deliver our lives from death."

Some of you no doubt would scoff at the story of the Exodus. But, even for sake of argument it didn't happen? The people of the land believed it did and were paralyzed by fear and had no will to resist.

The bottom line in all of this? Jesus Christ has been lifted up on the pole and wants you to look unto him in this hour of trouble. Or as Paul wrote in Philippians:

6 Be anxiousl for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.

7 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

Hebrews Chapter 2 tells us that that fear of death brings bondage, but Christ has defeated the fear of death!

3 And again, I will put my trust in him. And again, Behold I and the children which God hath given me.

14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

Our greatest virus is sin and death apart from Christ. It's 100% fatal spiritually.

Fear is a spirit that does not come from God:

"For God hath not given us the spirit of fear, but of power, of love, and of a sound mind."
 
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How many times you going to post that same bullshit article?

Take a pill, lol

Dr Drew is a ******* CELEBRITY ADDICTION DR


NOT A DISEASE EXPERT, NOT A PUBLIC HEALTH EXPERT AND MOST DEFINITELY NOT A VIROLOGIST


Dr Fauci has CONTRADICTED TRUMP every time he has babbled something stupid, so yes, do listen to him

Well, Dr. Drew is a doctor. So is my brother in law. He seems to think we haven't even seen the tip of the iceberg on this.


Trump: 'Take It Easy. Just Relax.'


Dr. Anthony Fauci says he would like to see aggressive measures such as a 14-day national shutdown.

https://time.com/5803504/anthony-fauci-united-states-shutdown/

14 days isn't enough. Besides, people are still gonna do what they want to do. They are gonna be out and about spreading the disease. Interesting times ahead.
 
Pay attention class. Tibs has been expelled for excessive tardiness. (not the late kind)

Last updated: March 16, 2020, 14:02 GMT
Coronavirus Cases:
174,085
Deaths:
6,684



100,371Seasonal flu deaths this year
Quick facts:
Every year an estimated 290,000 to 650,000 people die in the world due to complications from seasonal influenza (flu) viruses.
This figure corresponds to 795 to 1,781 deaths per day due to the seasonal flu.
Sources and info:

Seasonal flu death estimate increases worldwide - CDC
Up to 650 000 people die of respiratory diseases linked to seasonal flu each year - World Health Organization (WHO)

Edit - Those numbers are worldwide. The U.S. death total for Kung Flu so far is a whopping 68. CDC, through March 7th, estimates that this season there have been 22,000 – 55,000
seasonal flu deaths in the U.S.
 
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The human reaction, to this point, has been far worse than the virus itself. The stupidity and ignorance displayed across the globe is a pandemic in itself. Never seen anything like it.

Our local grocery store here, Frys (Kroger), is usually open 24 hours, 7 days a week. Last night they closed at 10 PM because the shelves were decimated and they couldn't keep up stocking them.
They reopened at 6 AM this morning, and there were over 200 people waiting to get in. Yeah, people are stupid, and is anyone surprised?
 
Regular flu stats DONT MEAN ****

This NEW virus could kill hundreds of thousands in the next few months!


NO immunity, NO vaccine, Dr Druci says a million deaths possible in this outbreak
 
SN flu bros: "It'll all be over in a week"


New CDC recommendations, No gatherings of 50+ people for two months
 
Regular flu stats DONT MEAN ****

This NEW virus could kill hundreds of thousands in the next few months!


NO immunity, NO vaccine, Dr Druci says a million deaths possible in this outbreak

"Could" is the key word in all of this hype. "Has" is what really matters.
 
Pay attention class. Tibs has been expelled for excessive dumbassery.

Last updated: March 16, 2020, 14:02 GMT
Coronavirus Cases:
174,085
Deaths:
6,684



100,371Seasonal flu deaths this year
Quick facts:
Every year an estimated 290,000 to 650,000 people die in the world due to complications from seasonal influenza (flu) viruses.
This figure corresponds to 795 to 1,781 deaths per day due to the seasonal flu.
Sources and info:

Seasonal flu death estimate increases worldwide - CDC
Up to 650 000 people die of respiratory diseases linked to seasonal flu each year - World Health Organization (WHO)

Edit - Those numbers are worldwide. The U.S. death total for Kung Flu so far is a whopping 68. CDC, through March 7th, estimates that this season there have been 22,000 – 55,000
flu deaths in the U.S.

Come on I have to be on Spikes side here. That is an asinine comparison at this point in the pandemic. You can't compare the numbers of the two in any way yet. Look at these stats a year from now and we can start to actually compare. I know you and others are smarter than this. It is like trying to say my brand new business sucks because I am not making the same amount as one that has been in operation for a decade and has 800 locations. It just isn't a scientifically viable comparison. Now when it is all said and done I hope like hell you are right, the thing is we may never know if all this is an overreaction but we will surely know if it isn't. I hope to god a year from now people complain about these measures because it wasn't that bad as that would mean they worked but if a year from now we have a million dead then we didn't do enough. Our leaders are in a no win situation right now politically.
 
Regular flu stats DONT MEAN ****

This NEW virus could kill hundreds of thousands in the next few months!


NO immunity, NO vaccine, Dr Druci says a million deaths possible in this outbreak

Could, possible, maybe, potential... It's all bullshit. Actual true real facts are what matters.
 
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