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The Epstein Problem

oneforthebus said:
Well I mean I personally would consider someone like Stormy Daniels who gets paid to have sex on film a *****, but I guess technically in the legal sense she's not, hence, near *****.
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lol. She is well past "*****" as most/many would think of the concept. Perhaps even professional or ProBowl cum dumpster. lol.

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Dems calling for Acosta's resignation are all over the news this morning. I knew it.
 
CharlesDavenport said:
Your entire rants are about what you "personally consider", and nobody cares about what you and your kind think. Let's fast forward to you now telling everyone that you posted that you said that you allowed that technically in the legal sense she isn't, and then base all your further bullshit on that. LOL.
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Chas,

OFTB is supportive of all your positions, with the exception---like that of many folk-- that Trump is not the sort of nice, regular person that they would like to be any sort of role model. He is crass, easily offended and a world class womanizer.

Those qualities, and his experience make him a good leader, a great negotiator and the best President since Dutch, at least.

I think OFTB might agree with most of your beliefs about Trump and still be able to understand his human failings as they are well known. Writing about them objectively doesn't qualify the writer as having TDS, or as being against Trump. Quite the contrary.

OFTB is probably exactly the type of centrist, conservative leaning voter that understands well what POTUS can and cannot do, and will probably be a large force in her sphere of influence in that area outside of Philly that Trump needs to win PA.

Instead of trying to ostracize her, you ought to say: welcome, pls bring your friends into this adult discussion of whom should be the next President.

Go Steelers!

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jitter77 said:
Not sure how true this is, but if it is then not a good look....
https://news.google.com/articles/CA...vc2FpKgQICjAMMJD-CQ?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US:en

Exclusive party with just trump epstein and 28 girls
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Actually, its a great look..... as long as all the girls were adults and not 14 year olds. If its true and all the women were of legal age, then it only confirms what we already knew about DJT, he loves beautiful women, lots of them. Most men do, they just don't have the ability to put 28 of them into a room, and thats what makes DJT DJ-fuckingT!!

Hate all you want. Losers hate people who have more money than they do, losers hate men who date more women than they do, losers hate men who date more beautiful women than they do. Basically, democrats are losers.
 
I wonder if Mr. Kotter was on any of the flights to Epstein's Orgy Island.

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Stoney said:
Actually, its a great look..... as long as all the girls were adults and not 14 year olds. If its true and all the women were of legal age, then it only confirms what we already knew about DJT, he loves beautiful women, lots of them. Most men do, they just don't have the ability to put 28 of them into a room, and thats what makes DJT DJ-fuckingT!!

Hate all you want. Losers hate people who have more money than they do, losers hate men who date more women than they do, losers hate men who date more beautiful women than they do. Basically, democrats are losers.
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My question is where did the girls come from, it didn't 6 really say who "ordered" them. The associate said he knew about epstein and to keep him away from young girls. It seems like the girls came from elsewhere, but if Trump was warned about epstein's behavior you would think he would have steered clear.
 
jitter77 said:
My question is where did the girls come from, it didn't 6 really say who "ordered" them. The associate said he knew about epstein and to keep him away from young girls. It seems like the girls came from elsewhere, but if Trump was warned about epstein's behavior you would think he would have steered clear.
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Again though, it was 1992 -- it might not have been widely known about Epstein's behavior at that point in time. Who's to say that Trump wasn't made aware either at that event or after, and changed his attitude towards Epstein at that point?

While I agree it's a bad look, it's not necessarily as bad as you might think.
 
CharlesDavenport said:
Your entire rants are about what you "personally consider", and nobody cares about what you and your kind think. Let's fast forward to you now telling everyone that you posted that you said that you allowed that technically in the legal sense she isn't, and then base all your further bullshit on that. LOL.
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Dude, if you have such a problem with my opinions why don't you block me. There are plenty of people here who are interested in what I have to say and have told me so. I'm not sure what you mean about "my kind". I guess you mean the kind who isn't swinging from Trump's **** all day every day.
 
Troglodyte said:
So only Clinton’s association with Epstein is relevant because it’s slighlty more recent?

Ha! This ******* place!
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"slightly more recent"??? are you ******* kidding?

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Troglodyte said:
So only Clinton’s association with Epstein is relevant because it’s slighlty more recent?

Ha! This ******* place!
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this, from the same ******* supporter of the douchebag party who searched feverishly through Trump's 73 years for even the slightest morsel of anything they could misconstrue and build into something it is not. i'd call you a ******* loser, but wouldn't want to insult AntiFa.

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OFTB is probably exactly the type of centrist, conservative leaning voter that understands well what POTUS can and cannot do, and will probably be a large force in her sphere of influence in that area outside of Philly that Trump needs to win PA.
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Trump has a tough road in PA this time around for sure. I'm torn myself because I certainly can't vote for some leftwing socialist but it will literally make me sick to my stomach to pull the lever for that disgusting individual. I will probably do it, for my family's sake and the future of the country to have someone in office who can stop a complete government takeover of everything. But I will be holding my nose to do it for sure.

Trump lost suburban Philly women in 2016, and in 2018 my county turned from staunch red to mostly blue for the first time in decades. 2020 ain't gonna be pretty for him here. We'll see if the middle of the state can turn out in big enough numbers to make up for it.
 
Troglodyte said:
So only Clinton’s association with Epstein is relevant because it’s slighlty more recent?

Ha! This ******* place!
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I was curious to see how hard the spin for this would be here and these people did not disappoint. Clinton is a scumbag and he's always been a scumbag. His association with Epstein has always been pretty well known. Trump is ALSO a scumbag and his association with Epstein has also been well known. His association with the Clintons was well known. If you don't think that these two weren't involved in this in the most heinous ways then you're kidding yourself. You can try and spin this all you want to fit into you partisan fantasy land bullshit but these are the types of things that happen in these types of circles whether there is a D or an R next to your name. These are known associates of Epstein in Trumps cabinet for ***** sake. Stop it. They're all complicit in this if not worse.

The spin for this may reach Penn State levels of delusion. There were people in here falling on the sword for Paterno too.
 
oneforthebus said:
Trump has a tough road in PA this time around for sure. I'm torn myself because I certainly can't vote for some leftwing socialist but it will literally make me sick to my stomach to pull the lever for that disgusting individual. .
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Bring a barf bag.
 
Confluence said:
Chas,

OFTB is supportive of all your positions, with the exception---like that of many folk-- that Trump is not the sort of nice, regular person that they would like to be any sort of role model. He is crass, easily offended and a world class womanizer.

Those qualities, and his experience make him a good leader, a great negotiator and the best President since Dutch, at least.

I think OFTB might agree with most of your beliefs about Trump and still be able to understand his human failings as they are well known. Writing about them objectively doesn't qualify the writer as having TDS, or as being against Trump. Quite the contrary.

OFTB is probably exactly the type of centrist, conservative leaning voter that understands well what POTUS can and cannot do, and will probably be a large force in her sphere of influence in that area outside of Philly that Trump needs to win PA.

Instead of trying to ostracize her, you ought to say: welcome, pls bring your friends into this adult discussion of whom should be the next President.

Go Steelers!

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Con,

I have no idea what in my posting history would lead you to believe that I am looking for advice from anyone on how to respond to something, but since you stuck your nose in, I will clarify for you.

I'm tired of the annoying but sort of funny self-righteous undertone that "centrists" carry with them when they try to let everyone know that they are holding their nose whenever they say anything positive about Trump. I don't regularly call him a piece of ****, so you say I think Trump is a nice regular guy who is a role model. This is a common theme with "moderates". I point out that there is absolutely nothing suggesting that Trump is involved with pedo activities, so I'm hiding behind his nutsack.

You characterize the Trump criticism I respond to as just objective writings about his human failings. This is bizzarro "centrist" world, bud.

I'm amazed by people who talk about Trump like they've known him closely for years and just put up with his crass a boorish behavior because he's better than the alternative. It makes them feel good or something.

"Moderates" wear this cognitive dissonance like a badge of honor, somehow thinking that it makes their positions seem more thoughtful, and lets them believe that they can do things like tell me how I should respond to a post on a message board.

I'm not trying to ostracize anyone. That is a weird take. And no, I do not want any similar friends brought into this adult conversation. Stay home, vote for the other guy, just quit acting like irrational distaste makes you the level head in the discussion.
 
oneforthebus said:
Dude, if you have such a problem with my opinions why don't you block me. There are plenty of people here who are interested in what I have to say and have told me so. I'm not sure what you mean about "my kind". I guess you mean the kind who isn't swinging from Trump's **** all day every day.
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You think I should block you because I don't like your opinions? That's not how this works. Besides, I enjoy your classy, rational posts.
 
Amuses me that I'm being called a centrist and a moderate just because I don't worship Trump. I've been considered a rabid right winger most of my life.
 
I don't know if Trump is involved. I don't know if Clinton is involved. Wouldn't surprise me to find out either is involved, but that's mostly because nothing really surprises me anymore. I know most people have either declared Trump a pedo or exonerated him, depending on your political leanings, but I'm gonna wait until all of the information comes out. I mean, providing it ever does. It wouldn't be the first time rich people were able to hide things, you know like Robert Kraft getting a video of him receiving a happy ending inadmissible in court. Besides, I have no faith in our government to do the right thing. They would cover up for one person just so they could protect another. It's old.
 
CharlesDavenport said:
You think I should block you because I don't like your opinions? That's not how this works. Besides, I enjoy your classy, rational posts.
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I don't care what you do. There is nothing I've said that's irrational. I listed the factual basis for my opinions quite clearly. If hearing an unbiased, balanced take on things bothers you so much you don't have to waste your time reading it.
 
oneforthebus said:
I don't care what you do. There is nothing I've said that's irrational. I listed the factual basis for my opinions quite clearly. If hearing an unbiased, balanced take on things bothers you so much you don't have to waste your time reading it.
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You're the one who asked why I don't block you, so I assumed that you did care. I enjoy your unbiased and balanced Trump **** references.
 
CharlesDavenport said:
You're the one who asked why I don't block you, so I assumed that you did care. I enjoy your unbiased and balanced Trump **** references.
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I was only thinking of you my friend. I don't want you to be any further upset and offended by any hint that Trump might not be Jesus reincarnated.
 
onefor and Charles, y'all should stop arguing.

None of us (except the Libs) want any POTUS - current or former - to be tied up in any of this Epstein ****. Yet, as it turns out we have one former POTUS (Clinton) who has been to Pedo Isle 26 times. Regardless of which side of the aisle you're on, or even if you're in the middle, that's too many times to be at that place and not have an idea of what goes on there. We have one POTUS (Trump) who associated with Epstein until 2002. Both POTUS have verifiable proof in their history of letting the "vice" pres make some decisions for them. Yet I've seen no evidence that would lead me or anyone who looks at this rationally and objectively to begin to consider that either POTUS (current or former) were ever attracted to little kids.

If it did happen, even once, they should be punished to the fullest extent of the law and then some. Exploitation of children is disgusting. Hoping (publicly or privately) that anyone did that just to score political points is equally disgusting.

I'll even say that at this point, Jeffrey Epstein's own words may not be sufficient. This guy is 66 and is facing the rest of his life in prison. He'll be looking to carve out deals and weasel his way out --- and will have the best lawyers his money can buy to help him do just that. If that means he throws someone on the fire to save his own skin, then he'll do just that.
 
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