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The Official Thread Dedicated to "Trump Winning"

Come and get some you filthy aliens!

Nuke them from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.


President Trump Directs Pentagon to Create 'Space Force' Branch of Military

President Donald Trump announced Monday he is directing the Pentagon to create what he called the "Space Force," an independent service branch of the military.

Speaking at a National Space Council meeting at the White House, Trump said the United States will "be the leader by far" in space and looks to revive the nation's flagging space program. The "Space Force" will be a "separate but equal" branch of the military overseen by Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Joseph Dunford.

The president framed space as a national security issue, saying he does not want "China and Russia and other countries leading us."

President Trump also signed a new space policy directive aimed to reduce satellite clutter in space. The policy calls for providing a safe and secure environment in orbit, as satellite traffic increases. It also sets up new guidelines for satellite design and operation, to avoid collisions and spacecraft breakups. Trump also vowed to soon return the United States to the moon and to reach Mars.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/...Pentagon-to-Create-Space-Force-485836781.html

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WE gonna have Space Cadets!

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LOL, Space Force. No, he didn't grow up in the 50's and 60's. we already have a "Space Force." It's called NASA.
 
NASA is for civilians, let them flop around in low earth orbit

WE aim higher!


Could Moon Miners Use Railguns to Launch Ore into Space?

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The United States Navy fired a projectile at Mach 6 during a recent test with an electromagnetic railgun, suggesting that early ideas about using such tech to launch payloads from the lunar surface might not be so sci-fi after all.

Mach 6 (six times the speed of sound) is 4,567 mph (7,350 km/h). The escape velocity at the moon is just a shade faster than that — 5,300 mph (8,530 km/h).

The Office of Naval Research work on the EM Railgun launcher is being pursued as a long-range weapon that fires projectiles using electricity instead of chemical propellants

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https://www.space.com/36442-could-moon-miners-use-railguns-to-launch-ore-into-space.html
 
Spike said:
President Trump Directs Pentagon to Create 'Space Force' Branch of Military
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Sorry, makes me think of Team America, World Police.

 
I for one am all for a Space Force. Satellite defense really needs to be a primary part of our ongoing national defense. Our current military strategy heavily relies on satellites for almost every aspect of battle, navigation, targeting, battle field identity recognition, communication and coordination. One effective attack on our satellites prior to an attack by an enemy could create massive confusion and cripple much of our air superiority. It is imperative that we have a better means of defense and contingencies to replace lost space based communications. This is not a job that needs to be in NASA's budget it is too important to dilute in an agency like NASA. We need a dedicated force to prevent and respond to any kind attack on our space assets.This could also include a better space based threat defense and intelligence gathering.

Plus we really need X-wings or Battlestars and Vipers!!!!!!
 
At least give it a different name. Space Force? Sounds cartoonish. I chuckle every time I hear or read "Space Force." There ought to be some good memes come out of it, so there's that.
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
I for one am all for a Space Force. Satellite defense really needs to be a primary part of our ongoing national defense. Our current military strategy heavily relies on satellites for almost every aspect of battle, navigation, targeting, battle field identity recognition, communication and coordination. One effective attack on our satellites prior to an attack by an enemy could create massive confusion and cripple much of our air superiority. It is imperative that we have a better means of defense and contingencies to replace lost space based communications. This is not a job that needs to be in NASA's budget it is too important to dilute in an agency like NASA. We need a dedicated force to prevent and respond to any kind attack on our space assets.This could also include a better space based threat defense and intelligence gathering.

Plus we really need X-wings or Battlestars and Vipers!!!!!!
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Doesn't the Air Force already handle all things space related? We have enough trouble recruiting quality people to the 5 existing branches of the military, I can't see a point in creating another branch that no one will want to join.
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
I for one am all for a Space Force. Satellite defense really needs to be a primary part of our ongoing national defense. Our current military strategy heavily relies on satellites for almost every aspect of battle, navigation, targeting, battle field identity recognition, communication and coordination. One effective attack on our satellites prior to an attack by an enemy could create massive confusion and cripple much of our air superiority. It is imperative that we have a better means of defense and contingencies to replace lost space based communications. This is not a job that needs to be in NASA's budget it is too important to dilute in an agency like NASA. We need a dedicated force to prevent and respond to any kind attack on our space assets.This could also include a better space based threat defense and intelligence gathering.

Plus we really need X-wings or Battlestars and Vipers!!!!!!
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It's also as much as our ability to ATTACK other satellites as well as defend our own. In the event of a huge war with China or Russia our ability to knock out their satellites while having our own could be a huge advantage and might just end a war outright.
 
Sarge said:
Doesn't the Air Force already handle all things space related? We have enough trouble recruiting quality people to the 5 existing branches of the military, I can't see a point in creating another branch that no one will want to join.
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The air force needs to focus on air superiority and I don't think people not wanting to join a space force will be an issue.
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
The air force needs to focus on air superiority and I don't think people not wanting to join a space force will be an issue.
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Why wouldn't it be an issue? We are having trouble recruiting everywhere, why would a new branch of the military be any different? It's not like the Space Force is going to actually be stationed in space, or even traveling there on a regular basis or any cool **** like that. What will be the appeal that will drag a bright kid off the street with good future prospects to join the Space Force?

Also the Air Force can already achieve and maintain aerial superiority. The stuff they do for outer space and the nuclear sites is completely separate. It's not like they have air traffic controllers and F-22 Pilots doing this stuff where they can't focus on their primary skill set. Maybe expanding and beefing up and modernizing the Air Force Space Command is a better idea.

I think it's a dumb idea. Congress would likely have to approve it anyway. Considering they can never agree on anything, the chance that it ever comes to fruition is unlikely at best.
 
Destroying anything with lasers from space is awesome. Who wouldn't want to sign up for that?
 
Sarge said:
Why wouldn't it be an issue? We are having trouble recruiting everywhere, why would a new branch of the military be any different? It's not like the Space Force is going to actually be stationed in space, or even traveling there on a regular basis or any cool **** like that. What will be the appeal that will drag a bright kid off the street with good future prospects to join the Space Force?

Also the Air Force can already achieve and maintain aerial superiority. The stuff they do for outer space and the nuclear sites is completely separate. It's not like they have air traffic controllers and F-22 Pilots doing this stuff where they can't focus on their primary skill set. Maybe expanding and beefing up and modernizing the Air Force Space Command is a better idea.

I think it's a dumb idea. Congress would likely have to approve it anyway. Considering they can never agree on anything, the chance that it ever comes to fruition is unlikely at best.
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I think you are missing the the overwhelming importance of protecting our space assets. Doing this right could easily bloat the Air Force budget and cause it to lose focus on their primary mission which is becoming more difficult as the Chinese continue to steal our plans and copy our planes. This would also free up parts of NASA's budget to let them focus on exploration. I for one like to see focus by the branches of the military and to me this allows better focus. I think it will also attract the young computer and gaming nerds. It would be a branch for the mentally gifted over the physically gifted. Not that we don't also need bright people in all branches but that would be the predominate need for the new service. It also would be a much smaller service as we would not need troops in a normal sense. It also would lead to better innovation.
 
The US Air Force Space Command is a separate entity that has nothing to do with the Air Force's primary mission of air superiority. Their focus is outer space security and cyber.

Read their Wikipedia page. It lays out that they already do the **** you mentioned.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Force_Space_Command

AFSPC's primary mission areas are:

Space forces support, involving the launching of satellites and other high-value payloads into space using a variety of expendable launch vehicles and operating those satellites once in space

Space control, ensuring the friendly use of space through the conduct of counterspace operations encompassing surveillance, negation, protection and space intelligence analysis[11]

Force enhancement, providing satellite-based weather, communications, intelligence, missile warning, and navigation; force enhancement is direct support to the warfighter

Now if the President's intention is to make the US Air Force Space Command its own separate entity, fine. But to create another entity when we already have one doing the job is an unnecessary expansion of government. We already have a space force. No need for two.
 
Senate passes $716B defense bill

The Senate easily cleared a mammoth defense policy bill for the 2019 fiscal year on Monday.

Senators voted 85-10 on the defense authorization legislation, well over the simple majority needed to pass it.

Democratic Sens. Dianne Feinstein (Calif.), Kirsten Gillibrand (N.Y), Kamala Harris (Calif.), Ed Marley (Mass.), Jeff Merkley (Ore.), Elizabeth Warren (Mass.), Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders (Vt.) and GOP Sens. Rand Paul (Ky.) and Mike Lee (Utah) voted against the bill.

The wide-ranging legislation includes roughly $716 billion in spending, including $617.6 billion for the Pentagon’s base budget and $21.6 billion for defense-related programs of the Energy Department.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/392899-senate-passes-716b-defense-bill
 
Sarge said:
The US Air Force Space Command is a separate entity that has nothing to do with the Air Force's primary mission of air superiority. Their focus is outer space security and cyber.

Read their Wikipedia page. It lays out that they already do the **** you mentioned.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Force_Space_Command

AFSPC's primary mission areas are:

Space forces support, involving the launching of satellites and other high-value payloads into space using a variety of expendable launch vehicles and operating those satellites once in space

Space control, ensuring the friendly use of space through the conduct of counterspace operations encompassing surveillance, negation, protection and space intelligence analysis[11]

Force enhancement, providing satellite-based weather, communications, intelligence, missile warning, and navigation; force enhancement is direct support to the warfighter

Now if the President's intention is to make the US Air Force Space Command its own separate entity, fine. But to create another entity when we already have one doing the job is an unnecessary expansion of government. We already have a space force. No need for two.
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Separating out the responsibility is exactly what I am advocating. Take those now doing this under that sub command and make it it's own branch. Seems simple and relatively cost effective(as much as anything the government does is). Very much like we did with the Army and Air Force decades ago.
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
Separating out the responsibility is exactly what I am advocating. Take those now doing this under that sub command and make it it's own branch. Seems simple and relatively cost effective(as much as anything the government does is). Very much like we did with the Army and Air Force decades ago.
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Did you think it was a good idea before the President mentioned it? I am just curious, because I don't recall anyone talking about space defense before this..
 
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Sarge said:
Did you think it was a good idea before the President mentioned it? I am just curious, because I don't recall anyone talking about space defense before this..
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Yes since Old Ronnie R. proposed his Star Wars initiative. I would also task them with meteor defense to start planning real contingencies and better detection in coordination with NASA and the private sector.
 
US set to announce departure from UN Human Rights Council

US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and United Nations Ambassador Nikki Haley will tell the organization on Tuesday evening at a joint press conference in Washington that their nation plans to leave its main human rights body, UN officials have confirmed.

Haley had already threatened the exit, citing concerns that the council is biased against Israel. She said that the UNHRC was a “forum for politics, hypocrisy and evasion,” that included major human rights violators such as Venezuela, Cuba, China, Burundi and Saudi Arabia".

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http://www.dw.com/en/us-set-to-announce-departure-from-un-human-rights-council-reports/a-44298857

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Now get the UN out of the U.S.!
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
Yes since Old Ronnie R. proposed his Star Wars initiative. I would also task them with meteor defense to start planning real contingencies and better detection in coordination with NASA and the private sector.
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I remember the star wars initiative. But I don't think we can legally weaponized space. Read somewhere that there is a treaty that forbids it, but haven't had a chance to look it up yet.
 
Spike said:
US set to announce departure from UN Human Rights Council

US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and United Nations Ambassador Nikki Haley will tell the organization on Tuesday evening at a joint press conference in Washington that their nation plans to leave its main human rights body, UN officials have confirmed.

Haley had already threatened the exit, citing concerns that the council is biased against Israel. She said that the UNHRC was a “forum for politics, hypocrisy and evasion,” that included major human rights violators such as Venezuela, Cuba, China, Burundi and Saudi Arabia".

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http://www.dw.com/en/us-set-to-announce-departure-from-un-human-rights-council-reports/a-44298857

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This is a bad move in my opinion. Yeah, that council is all full of stupidity. Didn't they name Iran or Syria head of that council at one point? But you don't fight politics, hypocrisy and evasion by walking away. Seems counter productive.
 
Something about the Space Force discussion I have been meaning to mention, and I keep forgetting, is how the left is twisting themselves into a pretzel to say Trump's announcement on this was laced with racism because he used the phrase "separate but equal" when he described Space Force in relation to the Air Force. Talk about a reach.
 
Sarge said:
Something about the Space Force discussion I have been meaning to mention, and I keep forgetting, is how the left is twisting themselves into a pretzel to say Trump's announcement on this was laced with racism because he used the phrase "separate but equal" when he described Space Force in relation to the Air Force. Talk about a reach.
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And though he did not say it, or even mention it, if you read between the lines you can see Trump is clearly suggesting that "only the white folk" go into space. You have to look hard, but it's there.
 
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