The SOTU The Impeachment Strikes Back!

[Ron Burgundy]

I think a whole lot of them will vote for Trump. I think a fair amount did in '16 too, but if it happens again they might all vote for Trump lol.

Trump and Bernie appeal to some of the same voters and want some of the same things but disagree about how to get there.

 

[Steelworth]

I think this was a CNBC headline:

Pelosi's Office Fails To Get Trump Video Deleted On Facebook and Twitter

 

[Tibs]

I would just like to know how they define white nationalist versus white suprematist and who gets labeled as a white nationalist. I have seen from people labeled tat who are not that in any way shape or form.

You mean white nationalists like these guys who showed up in DC yesterday? These are the good guys, correct? You know, the ones covering their faces yet again. Must be due to the frigid, cold conditions, I imagine.

<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">White nationalists shouting “RECLAIM AMERICA” through my neighborhood.<br>This isn’t Charlottesville.<br>This is Washington, DC.<br><br>The group is called Patriot Front, and they’re marching near Union Station<a href="https://twitter.com/wusa9?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WUSA9</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/breaking?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#breaking</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/CBSEveningNews?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CBSEveningNews</a> <a href="https://t.co/e43YvbzH3D">pic.twitter.com/e43YvbzH3D</a></p>— Mike Valerio (@MikevWUSA) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikevWUSA/status/1226253885716803585?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>

 

[Spike]

HA!

 

[Supersteeler]

You mean white nationalists like these guys who showed up in DC yesterday? These are the good guys, correct? You know, the ones covering their faces yet again. Must be due to the frigid, cold conditions, I imagine.

<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">White nationalists shouting “RECLAIM AMERICA” through my neighborhood.<br>This isn’t Charlottesville.<br>This is Washington, DC.<br><br>The group is called Patriot Front, and they’re marching near Union Station<a href="https://twitter.com/wusa9?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WUSA9</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/breaking?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#breaking</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/CBSEveningNews?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CBSEveningNews</a> <a href="https://t.co/e43YvbzH3D">pic.twitter.com/e43YvbzH3D</a></p>— Mike Valerio (@MikevWUSA) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikevWUSA/status/1226253885716803585?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>

Now are these White Nationalists as in real White Nationalists? Or White Nationalists as in anyone who disagrees with Liberal ideology? See this is the problem your ideological allies have caused. They have taken away the meaning of words we were once able to use to identify people as dangerous. They have bastardized all of the terms so badly that it is no longer safe to assume they are valid when leveled at people. It's become so out of hand that now most people just assume when they hear somebody called these terms that it is nothing more than political posturing and they have no validity.

Sadly some actual fringe hateful groups will probably overlooked because the woke rage mob has cried wolf so many times. I'll say right now that I've never heard of this group or what they stand for.....but the fact that someone on the Left has brought these claims against them I automatically would look with a skeptical eye. They may be a White Nationalist group.......the point is that I don't trust anyone who says it any more. There have been FAR too many false claims in with the goal of political victory. So Congrats, your people have once again made things worse for the people they espouse to be helping because they have taken all meaning away form the term White Nationalist. You can add racist, bigot, homophobe, islamophobe, xenophobe and many others right in there with it.

Jesus, I mean leftists turn on each other at the drop of a hat and start calling each other these words on social media all the time when they disagree on something. Shouldn't that tell you something?

 

[Tibs]

I'll say right now that I've never heard of this group or what they stand for.....

They Are Racist; Some of Them Have Guns. Inside the White Supremacist Group Hiding in Plain Sight.
https://www.propublica.org/article/...white-supremacist-group-hiding-in-plain-sight

Patriot Front is perhaps the most active white supremacist group in the nation. ProPublica explores its origins, secret communications, history of arrests and outsize aims for an all-white America.

Patriot Front
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/patriot-front

Patriot Front is a white nationalist hate group that broke off from Vanguard America in the aftermath of the deadly “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, of August 12, 2017.

 

[hamster]

They Are Racist; Some of Them Have Guns. Inside the White Supremacist Group Hiding in Plain Sight.
https://www.propublica.org/article/...white-supremacist-group-hiding-in-plain-sight




Patriot Front
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/patriot-front

The Southern Poverty Law Center is a prime example of what Supersteeler is talking about. The started off as an organization with legit civil rights credentials, however, they have morphed into a far left hate group. There was a restaurant on Route 30 in North Versailles that they called out as a hate group because the guy who owned the place had the audacity to put political memes on his marquee sign. Pathetic. They have lost all credibility as a legit advocate.

 

[Tibs]

The Southern Poverty Law Center is a prime example of what Supersteeler is talking about. The started off as an organization with legit civil rights credentials, however, they have morphed into a far left hate group. There was a restaurant on Route 30 in North Versailles that they called out as a hate group because the guy who owned the place had the audacity to put political memes on his marquee sign. Pathetic. They have lost all credibility as a legit advocate.

So your point being....err, what you're arguing, is that the Patriot Front is not a white supremacist, extremist group?

 

[oneforthebus]

So your point being....err, what you're arguing, is that the Patriot Front is not a white supremacist, extremist group?

What are you arguing exactly? Yes, white supremacist groups exist. Is anyone denying that?

Yes, white supremacist groups like Trump because of his anti-illegal immigration stances. Does that mean everyone who wants to stem the tide of illegal immigration is a white supremacist?

Radical Islamists exist. A lot of radical Islamists probably like Obama. Does that mean everyone who likes Obama is a radical Islamist?

Your insistence on equating conservatives and Trump supporters with white supremacists is nonsensical.

 

[IndySteel]

nonsensical.

That describes every single one of his posts.

 

[ZonaBurgh]

OK, show of hands...........

Who in this group supports violence as a means of expression?

Anyone?

 

[hamster]

So your point being....err, what you're arguing, is that the Patriot Front is not a white supremacist, extremist group?

Like Pavlov's dog, your response is predictable.
I know nothing about this group, other than what I read this morning.
What I did say, was that just because the SPLC says it is a hate group doesn't make it so.

 

[Tibs]

Your insistence on equating conservatives and Trump supporters with white supremacists is nonsensical.

LOL, where have a done that? Just pointing out this group was back marching yesterday in DC - in masks covering their faces a la Antifa, no less. As well as the fact the FBI just elevated white supremacist groups on the same level as ISIS, as far as a domestic threat.

All this, as a response to those on this board who for whatever reason fear liberal/leftwing political violence, when the facts on the ground are pretty clear where the threat is coming from. I am not equating anyone on this board or conservatives or Trump supporters with white supremacists.

 

[CharlesDavenport]

 

[ZonaBurgh]

LOL, where have a done that? Just pointing out this group was back marching yesterday in DC - in masks covering their faces a la Antifa, no less. As well as the fact the FBI just elevated white supremacist groups on the same level as ISIS, as far as a domestic threat.

All this, as a response to those on this board who for whatever reason fear liberal/leftwing political violence, when the facts on the ground are pretty clear where the threat is coming from. I am not equating anyone on this board or conservatives or Trump supporters with white supremacists.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

LOL, where have a done that? Just pointing out this group was back marching yesterday in DC - in masks covering their faces a la Antifa, no less. As well as the fact the FBI just elevated white supremacist groups on the same level as ISIS, as far as a domestic threat.

All this, as a response to those on this board who for whatever reason fear liberal/leftwing political violence, when the facts on the ground are pretty clear where the threat is coming from. I am not equating anyone on this board or conservatives or Trump supporters with white supremacists.

That is absolutely not true. The preponderance of all riots and violence in this Country comes from the left. The right peacefully assembles and even cleans up after themselves. I am calling bullshit on any claim to the contrary. Even if the few instances of violence involving the right it is almost always precipitated by groups like ANTIFA.

 

[Steelr4evr]

OK, show of hands...........

Who in this group supports violence as a means of expression?

Anyone?

Nobody. That's not how the overwhelming majority roll. Self defense. Oh yes. Defending the defenseless. You bet.

The only groups who are routinely going out destroying **** and being violent as a normal means are leftos like those commie shitbags antifa.

 

[IndySteel]

Nobody. That's not how the overwhelming majority roll. Self defense. Oh yes. Defending the defenseless. You bet.
The only groups who are routinely going out destroying **** and being violent as a normal means are leftos like those commie shitbags antifa.

And BLM. The ***** Hat Brigade may not have destroyed property, but their god-awful shrieks certainly disturbed the peace.

 

[hamster]

The only groups who are routinely going out destroying **** and being violent as a normal means are leftos like those commie shitbags antifa.

Like clockwork...............

The Republican Party of Duval County had six volunteers at the Kernan Village shopping center where they were registering voters. JSO reported that around 3:45 p.m., an older brown van, driven by a white man in his early 20s, approached the tent. He then drove right through the table and tent with his van. The suspect then stopped, got out of the van and took a video of the scene, flipped off the victims and fled. As of now, the suspect has not been identified.


https://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/...lmart-parking-lot/MKQ43YDVGZBDRKMIRXLA3RQFO4/

 

[ZonaBurgh]

Like clockwork...............

The Republican Party of Duval County had six volunteers at the Kernan Village shopping center where they were registering voters. JSO reported that around 3:45 p.m., an older brown van, driven by a white man in his early 20s, approached the tent. He then drove right through the table and tent with his van. The suspect then stopped, got out of the van and took a video of the scene, flipped off the victims and fled. As of now, the suspect has not been identified.


https://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/...lmart-parking-lot/MKQ43YDVGZBDRKMIRXLA3RQFO4/

Well it's not like he was driving a white Toyota, so someone will recognize the van. And I'm sure the technology is out there to read the plate.

 

[Supersteeler]

They Are Racist; Some of Them Have Guns. Inside the White Supremacist Group Hiding in Plain Sight.
https://www.propublica.org/article/...white-supremacist-group-hiding-in-plain-sight




Patriot Front
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/patriot-front

Fair enough. My point stands that woke Liberals have poisoned the water so thoroughly that all charges of any 'ism by the left are taken with a grain of salt. You aren't helping anyone by doing this....especially the victims of potential hate groups. You are only making their cries fall on deaf ears because you have been clogging those ears up with bullshit hysteria for a long time now. People will only believe you so many times and get burned before they start tuning you out altogether.

 

[Steelworth]

The Republican Party of Duval County had six volunteers at the Kernan Village shopping center where they were registering voters. JSO reported that around 3:45 p.m., an older brown van, driven by a white man in his early 20s, approached the tent. He then drove right through the table and tent with his van. The suspect then stopped, got out of the van and took a video of the scene, flipped off the victims and fled. As of now, the suspect has not been identified.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Going out on a limb and suggesting if a MAGA hat wearing yokel drove a van through a Warren or Sanders voter registration tent, it would be the only thing journalists & major news outlets would be talking about right now.</p>— Stephen Miller (@redsteeze) <a href="https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1226500089809473536?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Steelworth]

Well it's not like he was driving a white Toyota, so someone will recognize the van. And I'm sure the technology is out there to read the plate.

Jax Sheriff's Office
@JSOPIO

#JSO has arrested the suspect who drove through the voter registration tent in the area of 11900 Atlantic Boulevard.

Gregory Timm has been charged with Aggravated Assault, Criminal Mischief, and Driving While Driver’s License Suspended.

 

[Tibs]

You aren't helping anyone by doing this....especially the victims of potential hate groups. You are only making their cries fall on deaf ears because you have been clogging those ears up with bullshit hysteria for a long time now. People will only believe you so many times and get burned before they start tuning you out altogether.

LOL, it's not my job to put out an all-points bulletin, warning of the dangers of far right political violence in the US. Trump should follow the FBI's lead and speak to the issue himself. He should make it crystal clear he doesn't support these groups or white supremacist ideology. There must be some reason he hasn't done so...I just can't put my finger on it, on why that is. It can't help he has Steven Miller in his ear 24/7 and writing his speeches. It all becomes very cloudly, on where Trump actually stands on these issues. Which is a problem, even if some of you don't see it that way. You would think he learned his lesson after Charlottesville.... ahhhh, who am I kidding, this is Trump.

 

[CharlesDavenport]

Jax Sheriff's Office
@JSOPIO

#JSO has arrested the suspect who drove through the voter registration tent in the area of 11900 Atlantic Boulevard.

Gregory Timm has been charged with Aggravated Assault, Criminal Mischief, and Driving While Driver’s License Suspended.

Sounds more like attempted murder to me.