Trubisky's passing chart - one completion over 20 yards, 5 behind LOS

[Fiji Mariner]

Warren definitely plays the see hole hit hole game with more decisiveness than Najee currently is

Not sure if that’s a byproduct of lingering injuries or rust for Najee, but it’s noticeable

 

[Drink IRON City]

Warren definitely plays the see hole hit hole game with more decisiveness than Najee currently is

Not sure if that’s a byproduct of lingering injuries or rust for Najee, but it’s noticeable

Warren definitely plays the see hole hit hole game with more decisiveness than Najee currently is

Not sure if that’s a byproduct of lingering injuries or rust for Najee, but it’s noticeable

Agree Fiji Mariner, Najee seems to have adopted that "LeVeon Bell" delay before hitting the hole. That delay doesn't work well with O'Canada's offense as it seems to draw more people up into the box, making the hole to develope that much harder.to find and on a timely basis.

Am I seeing things? It's not the initial formation but the added movement that seems to bring a defensive player up into the box which seems to be a little loaded to begin with. I've stated in the past tht I think O'Canada's scheme is a college scheme based on facing college talent where-as this is the Pros and all 11 guys are Pro-caliber..


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[Litos]

Bell made the line look good, not the other way around. That line never had the same production in the rushing game the season Bell sat out and Conner took over. Just the facts

Harris needs to be more decisive. He tries to be patient like Bell but doesn't have the tools to make it work. He looks like he doesn't process the information fast enough, or maybe just doesn't have the vision? Jaylen Warren could turn out to be a better pure runner than Harris and it wouldn't surprise me.

Conner had a great year when bell sat. Almost a 1000 yards and 12 TDs

 

[bigben]

Conner had a great year when bell sat. Almost a 1000 yards and 12 TDs

Bell averaged over 1900 total yards in 2016 and 2017, Thanks for reinforcing my point

 

[Litos]

Bell averaged over 1900 total yards in 2016 and 2017, Thanks for reinforcing my point

Ok, that doesn't mean the line was bad either. You can't say it was all the RB. Conner had another style of running, that OL was syncd to perfection with bell's. Still conner averaged about 1400 that next season, that's not chump change

 

[Fiji Mariner]

Agree Fiji Mariner, Najee seems to have adopted that "LeVeon Bell" delay before hitting the hole. That delay doesn't work well with O'Canada's offense as it seems to draw more people up into the box, making the hole to develope that much harder.to find and on a timely basis.

Am I seeing things? It's not the initial formation but the added movement that seems to bring a defensive player up into the box which seems to be a little loaded to begin with. I've stated in the past tht I think O'Canada's scheme is a college scheme based on facing college talent where-as this is the Pros and all 11 guys are Pro-caliber..


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I’ve been seeing the creep down into the box as motion begins, we seldom throw out of the slot motion so it’s understandable.

A lot of disjointed things in this offensive scheme: a total lack of cohesion between the blocking style, the run game/style and the “passing attack” if you can even call it that. Couple that with limiting the usage of the field and very predictable play calls (easily determined by down and distance) and you’ve got a recipe for a very weak offense.

I’m pretty sure my GA bulldogs could shut down this Offense, they may have trouble scoring against our D but it would be a close game. I may be to blame instead of Canada as the Steelers and Dawgs are never dominant at the same time…Fate doesn’t want to allow me to be too spoiled.

 

[jiminoh]

Am I seeing things? It's not the initial formation but the added movement that seems to bring a defensive player up into the box which seems to be a little loaded to begin with. I've stated in the past tht I think O'Canada's scheme is a college scheme based on facing college talent where-as this is the Pros and all 11 guys are Pro-caliber..

I think we're both seeing the same things. But, what do I know...they didn't hire me.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Ok, that doesn't mean the line was bad either. You can't say it was all the RB. Conner had another style of running, that OL was syncd to perfection with bell's. Still conner averaged about 1400 that next season, that's not chump change

A-N-D

Conner did it for way less money than what BELL was asking for. The cost vs the production wasn't worth it. The STEELERS felt it was and made him a huge offer, but he still left (dead horse argument I know).

BELL would NOT save this current OL as Najee has sort of tried that delayed crap that Bell was noted for. ALSO Bell's delayed talent was caught up to by the league and he wasn't gaining the yardage as earlier in his career.


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[Drink IRON City]

I think we're both seeing the same things. But, what do I know...they didn't hire me.

Rest assured you don't need to be hired to see the things you are seeing. I trusted what I was seeing even when I'm in my "spirit" world of vision and no one hired me for that.


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[xjx]

I saw a crappy offensive performance. But Matt Canada seems to put all the blame on Trubisky. Certainly his scheme and/or play calls should never come into question.

 

[Fiji Mariner]

Canada throws Mitch under bus after 1 game

After 2nd game and 1st year with team starting QB returns the favor to Canada

What a mess

Tomlin sits back and does we he does ramble and babble with non solutions in his presser trying to sound cool

Wnning-

 

[DBS1970]

It stands to reason. Trubisky is a mid pack guy, If he was good the Bears would not have let him go.

 

[Djfan]

Canada throws Mitch under bus after 1 game

After 2nd game and 1st year with team starting QB returns the favor to Canada

What a mess

Tomlin sits back and does we he does ramble and babble with non solutions in his presser trying to sound cool

Wnning-

Winning post. Can't be said better than that.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Conner had a great year when bell sat. Almost a 1000 yards and 12 TDs

Conner did everything BELL did and was a little better till he got hurt so that affected his season total whereas poster bigben is comparing a full season (if memory serves & one of the few full seasons, we got out of him) of Bell.


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[Chicoman]

Here ya go....Trubisky is not on the chart but based on his first 2 games in Black n Gold he'd be ranked #3 on this list......most people probably won't even recognize the names of these QB's but I'm telling you he's actually worse than he was with Chicago. Maybe the new level of SUCK is THE CANADA EFFECT....I'm not a fan of him either...but good lord how can we continue with stats like this? Even JaMarcus Russell averaged 6.0 YPA During Trubisky's time in Chicago he averaged 6.7 YPA. So maybe it is our OC?

Least Passing Yards Per Attempt By A Qbs Since 2000 | StatMuse

Since 2000, Kurt Kittner has the fewest passing yards per attempt by a quarterback, with 3.4 yards.

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Also just for the record the average Yards Per Attempt by a QB by year....

2017 - NFL 7.0 - Ben 7.6 (Todd Haley - OC)
2018 - NFL 7.4 - Ben 7.6 (Randy Fitchner - OC)
2019 - NFL 7.2 - Ben 5.7 (Injured in Week 2) Duck Hodges - 6.6 Mason Rudolph - 6.2 (Randy Fitchner - OC)
2020 - NFL 7.2 - Ben 6.3 (Randy Fitchner - OC)
2021 - NFL 7.1 - Ben 6.2 (Matt Canaduh - OC)

Did the Steelers change their offensive philosophy after Ben's injury in 2019? It seems to me they went to a shorter and quicker passing game but what that has done is allowed Defenses to being everyone up knowing they aren't going to throw it deep and has made our offense one dimensional with no running game to speak of.

So Perhaps the extra 20% SUCKITUDE from our starting QB's is what from this moment forward what shall be forever knowns as "THE CANADUH EFFECT"

 

[madinsomniac]

To be fair… its two games… id like to see Pickett too, but thats too quick a hook …

 

[bigben]

Conner did everything BELL did and was a little better till he got hurt so that affected his season total whereas poster bigben is comparing a full season (if memory serves & one of the few full seasons, we got out of him) of Bell.


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Bell averaged 129 scrimmage yards per game with the Steelers during his time here. Most by any back in the history of the league. Doesn't get better than that.

Facts

 

[Fiji Mariner]

The guy, other than the die hard fans, that is really losing in this whole debacle is Pickens

How long can a guy with his talent keep his cool, if this shitshow continues he’ll be asking for a trade by next season at the latest.

From the limited all 22 I’ve seen this year he’s open…so whoever (Tomlin, Canada, Mitch) let’s just start taking advantage of our player’s strengths and play some damn real football already…no more window dressing, looking cute and hoping the D prevails

I’m two weeks in and can’t take a whole damn season of turtle ball

It’s not patience any of us are looking for Shades, just in case you’re confused…you can preach that crap only through lies as Obviously the Kenny, Kenny chants aren’t a call for patience by the fan base…soon it will be Fire Canada chants

The gladiators have fought and the fans all have their thumbs pointing down, slay this current iteration of BS we are strutting out there on game day…stat!!!

We truly all wanna be

 

[Steelr4evr]

I'd figure 3-6 games of this and changes will occur. I'd punt the OC first.

 

[slashsteel]

The guy, other than the die hard fans, that is really losing in this whole debacle is Pickens

How long can a guy with his talent keep his cool, if this shitshow continues he’ll be asking for a trade by next season at the latest.

From the limited all 22 I’ve seen this year he’s open…so whoever (Tomlin, Canada, Mitch) let’s just start taking advantage of our player’s strengths and play some damn real football already…no more window dressing, looking cute and hoping the D prevails

I’m two weeks in and can’t take a whole damn season of turtle ball

It’s not patience any of us are looking for Shades, just in case you’re confused…you can preach that crap only through lies as Obviously the Kenny, Kenny chants aren’t a call for patience by the fan base…soon it will be Fire Canada chants

The gladiators have fought and the fans all have their thumbs pointing down, slay this current iteration of BS we are strutting out there on game day…stat!!!

We truly all wanna be

Canada won't be here next year and Pickett will be starting.

 

[steelhurt]

Well if he can’t generate any offense in Cleveland win or lose, I think you have to consider a change for the Jet’s game. The Steelers will have 10 days before they face the Jets at home so I could see them making the switch there. With Tomlin though you never know what the hell he may do. If they don’t make the change for the Jets then play it out until the bye and see if the offense can find it’s groove under Mitch. Now if it’s still bad at the bye week I most definitely remove Mitch for Kenny and give him the experience setting him up for next year. By then the season is lost so why not make the best of it and let your rookie QB gain valuable experience. Who knows what Tomlin will do!

 

[skialta]

8-8-1

Did you know that Mike Tomlin has NEVER had a losing season?!

 

[Djfan]

Did you know that Mike Tomlin has NEVER had a losing season?!

Best head coach ever!

 

[Drink IRON City]

Bell averaged 129 scrimmage yards per game with the Steelers during his time here. Most by any back in the history of the league. Doesn't get better than that.

Facts

Nobody is arguing Bell's ability, but you have to compare apples to apples. Bell had his wheels run off and there is no denying that. His unbelievable amount of touches is also what escalated his totals. Look at his YPC and it isn't nearly as impressive as the total.

At the end of the season Bell had nearly 2 1/2 games more worth of touches VS the next closest RB in the NFL.


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[topseed]

Harris needs to be more decisive. He tries to be patient like Bell but doesn't have the tools to make it work. He looks like he doesn't process the information fast enough, or maybe just doesn't have the vision? Jaylen Warren could turn out to be a better pure runner than Harris and it wouldn't surprise me.

Warren definitely plays the see hole hit hole game with more decisiveness than Najee currently is

Not sure if that’s a byproduct of lingering injuries or rust for Najee, but it’s noticeable

And you guys are basing this analysis on what? Warren's 7 carries for 22 yards in his 2 NFL games? Is it the 3.1 yards per carry, or the long of 6 that really gets your juices flowing? Yeah, Warren is really hitting those holes as a pure runner, boy. Especially on that 6-yarder.

Najee proved his capabilities behind a **** line last season, and this year the run blocking might be even worse. There's only so much the guy can do.