I also think that the average struggling Latino family could give a **** what these wealthy, out-of-touch celebrities think. Just like I could give a **** what George Clooney, Ben Affleck, Sean Penn, or Alec Baldwin think.
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Trump appeals to Latinos who want jobs here in the US, not Latino "celebrities" who can only spew out the politically correct narrative of the day.
Opps - basically a dupe of hamster's post.
Opps - basically a dupe of hamster's post.
Oh come ON!!!!! We ALL know Alec Baldwin is such a genius when it comes to politics. How dare you NOT listen to his opinion???
Side note- why isn't the Latino community pissed at Sean Penn for his interview with El Chapo? Or do they glorify El Chapo and think it's OK?
On the other hand, I can now see the hypocrisy in some of Trump's tirades. IF...he is indeed in favor of partial birth abortions, more gun legislation and funding Planned Parenthood, then there is room for concern that his views are indeed too liberal, as far as I'm concerned. It's also clear that he would have a hard row to hoe getting anything done in Congress.... but so would Cruz.
I still don't see me swaying to the dark side by any means but that just means that 'till a candidate emerges, I will stay the course, keep my options open and see what happens. I honestly thought he would crash by now but that doesn't look like it's gonna happen. Hell, I would vote for Choobacca before either one of those commies.
President Obama spoke at a Baltimore mosque Wednesday, saying Islam was always a part of America. The next day he extolled Islam at the Prayer Breakfast. If Obama is planning to make a surprise announcement about himself during his last year in office, the audience is way ahead of him.
I still don't see me swaying to the dark side by any means but that just means that 'till a candidate emerges, I will stay the course, keep my options open and see what happens. I honestly thought he would crash by now but that doesn't look like it's gonna happen. Hell, I would vote for Choobacca before either one of those commies.
President Obama spoke at a Baltimore mosque Wednesday, saying Islam was always a part of America. The next day he extolled Islam at the Prayer Breakfast. If Obama is planning to make a surprise announcement about himself during his last year in office, the audience is way ahead of him.
he didnt say "Mexicans", he said "illegals"
but, continue arguing this with he family of Marilyn Pharis.
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/illegal-immigration-rape-murder/2015/08/07/id/669120/
One of two men arrested in a savage rape and hammer slaying of a military veteran was an illegal immigrant with a long record who'd been arrested — and let go — days before the attack, Fox News reports.
The July 24 violence against and subsequent death of Marilyn Pharis, 64, in Santa Maria, Calif., has reignited outrage over federal policies blamed for letting criminal illegal immigrants remain free — and in the country.
"I think this is a national issue — it starts with administration and their policies," Santa Barbara County Sheriff Ralph Martin tells Fox News.
"You can draw a direct line to this governor and Legislature," adding: "I am not remiss to say that from Washington DC to Sacramento, there is a blood trail to Marilyn Pharis’ bedroom."
According to the Santa Barbara News-Press, Victor Aureliano Martinez Ramirez, 29, who's charged along with Jose Fernando Villagomez, 20, in the attack, was on probation for committing battery against a woman and methamphetamine possession in May 2014.
He also was charged twice this year for violating probation, once for possessing a concealed knife and the other for drugs, but a Santa Barbara judge allowed him to enter a substance abuse center in Santa Maria in lieu of jail, the newspaper reports.
County jail officials tell the newspaper Immigration and Customs Enforcement declined to issue an immigration detainer that would've required local authorities to hold Ramirez for deportation.
ICE said it didn't issue the detainer after Ramirez's most recent arrest "based on the agency’s enforcement priorities after a thorough review of his case history showed he had no prior deportations or felony criminal convictions," Fox News reports.
ICE said, however, it issued one on Ramirez after he was picked up by the Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Department in May 2014 — and asked to be notified prior to his release, Fox News reports. A spokesperson said that never happened.
Pharis, a civilian employee at the Vadenberg Air Force Base — and a military service veteran — was sleeping after a night shift when two men allegedly broke into her home, bludgeoned her with a claw hammer, strangled and raped her and left her for dead, Fox News reports. She died days later at a hospital.
Both suspects are being charged with first-degree murder, rape and burglary, while Ramirez is also being charged with murder by torture, Fox News reports.
The attack comes a little over three weeks after the shooting death of Kathryn Steinle, allegedly by an illegal immigrant in San Francisco, and less than a week before an undocumented Mexican national went on a deadly crime spree after being released by Ohio sheriffs.
"Immigration laws have been nullified and law enforcement has been neutered," Bob Dane of the Washington-based Federation for American Immigration Reform tells Fox News.
"The one exception — and glimmer of hope for the citizens of California — has been rising opposition by sheriffs who will hopefully spark needed statewide reforms before more citizens die."
--- in fact, what Trump said ---
http://www.businessinsider.com/us-sexual-assaults-unauthorized-immigration-trends-2015-7
and keep in mind:
many sexual assaults unfortunately go unreported and most illegal immigrants are unlikely to report themselves
I'd rather have a ******* as President than any of the career politicians that are running.
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Oh yeah, we want more "conservative republicans" like Mitt Romney and McCain, that, btw, everyone said they wouldn't go out to vote for because they were Rhinos.
Trump will pull in more blue dog Dems in the south and Independents out west than GOPe voters for Jeb! he might lose by being brash
Trump will pull in more blue dog Dems in the south and Independents out west than GOPe voters for Jeb! he might lose by being brash
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Its interesting to me that these Latino celebrities are basically saying trump sucks because he vows to enforce laws that are already on the books. Of course the gated estates with armed security that these folks live with means they will most likely never have to deal with the Mexican Mafia or MS13.
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What Is Scarier Than Donald Trump? Hint: It’s the very thing that’s making him so popular.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/02/11...l&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer
...But as bad as Trump and his enablers in the media or among GOP leadership are, they are not the most worrisome thing about the real estate mogul’s ascendancy. Trump will win other primaries. He may even be the GOP candidate for president –although that still seems an unlikely outcome to me as establishment forces coalesce around an ever-smaller field of viable options. But he is unlikely to win the presidency. His negatives are too high. He has enough support to win pluralities within the GOP but the vast majority of Americans would never vote for him. He will lose in the end and he will crawl back into the reality television swamp from which he oozed months ago.
His supporters, however, will remain. As will their anger. They will be a force in American politics for years as the changing demographics and economic models of this country and the likelihood of continuing dysfunction in Washington will continue to feed the anxiety that triggers their bitterness, irrationality, and irresponsibility. They are not the Tea Party with its libertarian message founded on an economic rationale and at least tenuous philosophical rationale. They are Sarah Palin voters gone even further off the tracks. They are the bad seeds of an American version of Europe’s dangerous nationalist parties — France’s National Front, Italy’s Northern League, the U.K.’s UKIP, or Hungary’s Jobbik. (What’s more, they crave an authoritarian boss to set things right, as recent articles and polls have indicated.)
And while Trump may soon depart the campaign trail in search of whatever life forms he must next consume to satisfy his titanic narcissism, he will leave behind a cadre of Americans — a solid core of whom are white, male, and not particularly well-educated — who harbor the notion that the world was once a better place for them and that those days are permanently over. (The world was never a particularly kind place to these alienated working and middle class voters or their forebears, even if they were white and male. They are nostalgic for a time that didn’t really exist. Because class issues always left their antecedents feeling disenfranchised, out of the club, angry at the establishment. But things seem worse now as we live at the tipping point when by a a few decades’ time minority populations will outnumber the former majority and where economic growth no longer seems to be creating the kind of jobs that once were the bread and butter of the middle class — notably those in our atrophying manufacturing sector — and the richest keep getting richer and leaving everyone else farther and farther behind.)
We can laugh at Trump. But we cannot and must not laugh at what is fueling his candidacy. Parties that evolve from feelings of disaffection and alienation like those in Europe today and in the past are capable of horrors as they have so often proven. For that reason no American should see the recent Trump victory as anything less than a call to arms to stop the further degradation of U.S. democracy by thugs. We must recognize that if we don’t hear the concerns that are fueling the rise of this group, if we don’t see and challenge the missteps by media elites and pundits who have enabled the legitimization of their views, then we are inviting the rise of forces that are a greater threat to our country — and its values — than any of the terrorists or foreign bogeymen that have dominated the conversations in our presidential debates to date.
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Trump Threatens Independent Run If RNC Doesn’t Condemn Cruz’s Attacks
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/02/15/3749709/trump-hints-at-independent-run-again/
Donald Trump is again hinting at a possible independent run for president if the Republican National Committee (RNC) doesn’t condemn Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) for his recent barrage of political attacks against the billionaire.
On Monday, Trump said that the RNC would be “in default of their pledge to me” if they don’t condemn Cruz for his attacks, which include a recent ad stating Trump would appoint Supreme Court justices who would erase the Second Amendment and allow “partial-birth” abortions.
Cruz has also recently Trump of being “pretending to be a Republican;” of being in favor of Obamacare; and of being in favor of abortion.
“Cruz has become unhinged and is lying with the hopes that his statements will go unchecked until after the election and he will save his failing campaign,” Trump said on Tuesday.
Now, Trump says the RNC must condemn Cruz’s attacks, or be in violation of the loyalty pledge he signed in September. Under that pledge, Trump promised the RNC that he would not run for president as an independent if he doesn’t win the party’s nomination next year. In return, the RNC apparently promised Trump that they would treat him “fairly.”
“The RNC is in default,” Trump said during a press conference on Tuesday. “When somebody’s in default, that means the other side can do what they have to do. … We’ve warned them twice, and they don’t listen.”
“The bottom line is, the RNC is controlled by the establishment,” he added. “That’s why the Republican party for president has lost so much for so long.”
Tibs... While I agree mostly with your post explaining why Trump appeals to so many, I have to disagree when you say that there never really was a time in this country when things were pretty good for those who aren't particularly well educated. There was indeed a time when men my father's age could most certainly expect to find a good paying job that you could raise a family on with only a high school education... sometimes not even that. When the trade unions were strong and before the manufacturing jobs all went for a boat ride a man with no more than a high school diploma that couldn't find a decent paying job only had himself to blame. Sure you might work your *** off, but what's wrong with that? I know quite a few men my fathers age that worked construction their entire lives and were able to live in nice homes, take family vacations, and even put their kids through college. They are now retired and collecting a decent pension. Try to find a construction job now that pays well enough to live a comfortable middle class life. $15 bucks an hour.. no benefits ... no pension... and that's if your lucky. Most pay less than that. Luckily you still can get a job making steel or building cars... you just have to move to Brazil or China to do it.
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I've been saying this for years.
However, I don't consider the "Nationalist" platform a negative thing. It's certainly no more negative than European Socialism, which is the way the liberal left establishment has been heading for more than a decade. For them to just assume the right-wing in this country was just going to go along for the ride as we turn our country more and more socialist and more and more open borders, they better wake up.
The Nationalism trend has been BROUGHT ON by the democrats. Their continued pansy-***, white-guilt, political correct, ever apologizing message is what started this. They only have themselves to blame.
They keep pushing white, middle-class, working Americans as the "problem" for all things race oriented and immigration oriented and constantly talking down to them like they aren't educated or open-minded enough or made to feel stupid because they don't agree with homosexuality or don't agree with open borders or have doubts about the "peacefulness" of Islam.
That is where this is coming from.
Don't let liberals spin it any other way.
I can't wait to hear what the liberals say when Europe starts to actually VOTE the Nationalist, right-wing platforms back into power because their failed "open border" policy and lack of listening to their own citizens makes the whole system crash under it's own socialist weight. What will the liberals say then? They just continue to argue the "masses" of angry voters are wrong (who cares about democracy then?) and that their kumbyah version of socialism and harmony will eventually work.
Exactly.
Those same white people generally liked guns and an independent streak which doesn't square with the modern Democrat party, also they tended to be labor union members and for the past 30 years while the Democrats have pandered to them they rarely sided with them. If an issue came down to siding with Labor or the Greenies the Dems would side with the Greenies every time.deljzc said:
The West Virginia state legislature just voted to override the governor's veto and make it a right-to-work state.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/lawmakers-override-veto-make-wva-work-state-36895943
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Trump knows, like everyone else, that Hillary will win their nomination and he's ready for her Iraq war vote by saying he was against it. Brilliant. Cuts her off at the knees already.
and Evangelicals are not all Catholics
Southern Baptist Convention Minister Endorses Donald J. Trump
"Republican Candidate Donald Trump is an intrepid Conservative who unapologetically articulates and accentuates the pulse of most Americans. His campaign is not funded by special interest groups. This means he is not beholden to them, and will have the freedom to build congressional support on both sides of the aisle and promote the values that millions embrace by implementing policies to make America great again. I endorse Donald J. Trump for president of the United States."
Linzey is an Evangelist, US Army chaplain and veteran of nearly 24 years, chief editor of several Bible translations, and founder of the Military Bible Association.
http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/9384977423.html
and Evangelicals are not all Catholics
Southern Baptist Convention Minister Endorses Donald J. Trump
"Republican Candidate Donald Trump is an intrepid Conservative who unapologetically articulates and accentuates the pulse of most Americans. His campaign is not funded by special interest groups. This means he is not beholden to them, and will have the freedom to build congressional support on both sides of the aisle and promote the values that millions embrace by implementing policies to make America great again. I endorse Donald J. Trump for president of the United States."
Linzey is an Evangelist, US Army chaplain and veteran of nearly 24 years, chief editor of several Bible translations, and founder of the Military Bible Association.
http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/9384977423.html
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And I want to add this about the so-called "fear" of Nationalism.
Just because you believe in a Nationalist platform doesn't make you a Nazi. Just like Tibs doesn't consider himself a communist even though he believes in (apparently a lot) of socialism.
There are degrees of everything. To me being a Nationalist means defining what it is to be American and expecting some degree of assimilation and responsibility of immigrants. It means keeping our interests and the interest of the citizens ABOVE non-citizens and other countries. It means accepting that while our U.S. history has not been perfect, it has been far more good than bad and we should respect and applaud those that help build the foundation of this country even if they weren't ethically up to our so-called 2015 standards.
To me, our Nation needs to control borders not because I want some kind of ethnic purity, but because I think ethnic blending can't and shouldn't happen too rapidly for fear of backlash (which is happening) and instability (both racially and economically). These are important factors when we ask difficult questions like "What is a Nation?". What defines being a U.S. citizen? What responsibilities does that require and what penalties do we impose on those not doing them?
These are questions that are now plaqueing Europe after 20+ years of open borders, semi-unified economy, and blending of very different cultural and ethnic peoples. My concern as an American and a voter is to foresee those same European issues happening here and try and plan a better path for the country to prevent the economic, racially charged political platforms that are in Europe right now.
I truly think Trump is a "moderate" Nationalist. As much as he talks a big game during primary season (which candidate isn't?), there is still a congress, constitution and high court that is part of the process. But I do strongly agree with him that redefining the responsibilities of "Citizen" and getting back to stronger border control, proper assimilation of immigrants via laws on the books, getting teenagers and young adults back into the workforce, better trade negotiations and trying to re-establish some manufacturing jobs inside our country, closing business loopholes to allow tax inversions and easily finding cheaper labor offshore and getting back to a foreign policy that is one step ahead of the world rather than one step behind.
In my opinion, Trump is the best man for these things despite his flaws (and he definitely has them). And while I still will vote for Kasich in my primary (he's always been a moderate right-wing candidate I support), when it comes time for the general election, there is no doubt in my mind I'm voting for Trump over Clinton or Sanders.
Trump is not going to lead us over the edge. He will end up being a Nationalist. A Populist. A moderately right-wing President. He will probably repeal Obamacare if Congress remains Republican. He will likely repeal Common Core and put education back into State control. I think he will get those things for Republicans but I think he will get big business regulations that some right-wingers might think is democrat. I think he will nominate a very moderate Supreme Court justice (I just don't think he cares about abortion as much as some here think). I don't think much will change on gun rights (other than we don't have to hear about it from our president every ******* time something bad happens with a gun). I would hope he will change the tax code a bit (finally). I think he will cut federal spending (a little).
Just because you believe in a Nationalist platform doesn't make you a Nazi. Just like Tibs doesn't consider himself a communist even though he believes in (apparently a lot) of socialism.
There are degrees of everything. To me being a Nationalist means defining what it is to be American and expecting some degree of assimilation and responsibility of immigrants. It means keeping our interests and the interest of the citizens ABOVE non-citizens and other countries. It means accepting that while our U.S. history has not been perfect, it has been far more good than bad and we should respect and applaud those that help build the foundation of this country even if they weren't ethically up to our so-called 2015 standards.
To me, our Nation needs to control borders not because I want some kind of ethnic purity, but because I think ethnic blending can't and shouldn't happen too rapidly for fear of backlash (which is happening) and instability (both racially and economically). These are important factors when we ask difficult questions like "What is a Nation?". What defines being a U.S. citizen? What responsibilities does that require and what penalties do we impose on those not doing them?
These are questions that are now plaqueing Europe after 20+ years of open borders, semi-unified economy, and blending of very different cultural and ethnic peoples. My concern as an American and a voter is to foresee those same European issues happening here and try and plan a better path for the country to prevent the economic, racially charged political platforms that are in Europe right now.
I truly think Trump is a "moderate" Nationalist. As much as he talks a big game during primary season (which candidate isn't?), there is still a congress, constitution and high court that is part of the process. But I do strongly agree with him that redefining the responsibilities of "Citizen" and getting back to stronger border control, proper assimilation of immigrants via laws on the books, getting teenagers and young adults back into the workforce, better trade negotiations and trying to re-establish some manufacturing jobs inside our country, closing business loopholes to allow tax inversions and easily finding cheaper labor offshore and getting back to a foreign policy that is one step ahead of the world rather than one step behind.
In my opinion, Trump is the best man for these things despite his flaws (and he definitely has them). And while I still will vote for Kasich in my primary (he's always been a moderate right-wing candidate I support), when it comes time for the general election, there is no doubt in my mind I'm voting for Trump over Clinton or Sanders.
Trump is not going to lead us over the edge. He will end up being a Nationalist. A Populist. A moderately right-wing President. He will probably repeal Obamacare if Congress remains Republican. He will likely repeal Common Core and put education back into State control. I think he will get those things for Republicans but I think he will get big business regulations that some right-wingers might think is democrat. I think he will nominate a very moderate Supreme Court justice (I just don't think he cares about abortion as much as some here think). I don't think much will change on gun rights (other than we don't have to hear about it from our president every ******* time something bad happens with a gun). I would hope he will change the tax code a bit (finally). I think he will cut federal spending (a little).
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another poll
After debate, Trump still tops SC GOP presidential race
South Carolina Post Debate Poll: Trump 35%, Rubio 18%, Ted Cruz 18%
Democratic frontrunner Clinton leads Sanders by 21-point margin
http://www.thestate.com/news/politi...s-columns-blogs/the-buzz/article60547281.html
After debate, Trump still tops SC GOP presidential race
South Carolina Post Debate Poll: Trump 35%, Rubio 18%, Ted Cruz 18%
Democratic frontrunner Clinton leads Sanders by 21-point margin
http://www.thestate.com/news/politi...s-columns-blogs/the-buzz/article60547281.html
Apparently Jeb forgot to renew his domain name and Trump bought it.
www.JebBush.com
So I ask you Steeler Nation, who would you rather have as President? Someone who thinks of stuff like that or someone who doesn't?
www.JebBush.com
So I ask you Steeler Nation, who would you rather have as President? Someone who thinks of stuff like that or someone who doesn't?
Like Lynn, I recognized exactly 2 names on that list of Latino petition signers. Virtual list of who's not who.......but my biggest issue with that petition, their public comments, and the rhetoric of the left generally is the deletion of the word "illegal" when talking about immigrants. It's an absolute falsehood to say that people who oppose ILLEGAL immigration oppose immigration. Note that I'm unsurprised by the tactic (I've grown quite used to the convenient bald faced lies from the left on everything). And they call people who support Trump "poorly educated"? While the left continues to put forward **** hat they KNOW one of their base will question because **** you whitey.
exactly. my daughter brought this up, saying "we're all immigrants"
not quite. if you were born here, you're not an immigrant.
no one is opposed to LEGAL immigration.
i am opposed to ILLEGAL immigration.
Sometimes on surveys for race I answer "Native American" just to **** with them. **** it, I was born here.
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