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Having lunch today at Wendy's in a somewhat rural, blue collar urban mixed area of Cincinnati I overheard this conversation which s quite telling to our problems.

Daughter(in her 40's maybe 50's) "so you have paid attention to all the new information about January 6th?"

Mom(in her 80's) "What new information?"

Daughter replies something I missed.

Mom "no there were 4 police killed by protestors"

Daughter "no Mom only one officer died and it was from a stroke at a later time"

Mom "No that is all lies by Trump they have proof of everything they said so on the news"

Daughter "No mom they even have all the video of what happened now"

Mom "no it is all fake and lies or the news would have reported it. More Trump lies"

Daughter "Seriously? I just give up.........."


People are brainwashed by the media, both sides. Just watch the videos and read.


It doesn't appear that the daughter was brainwashed now does it? She got the truth somewhere.
Do the people posting here appear brainwashed? We are getting the truth from somewhere.

Yes, there is questionable media reporting from the right, but don't pretend that they are both equal partners in crime. Not even close.
 

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It doesn't appear that the daughter was brainwashed now does it? She got the truth somewhere.
Do the people posting here appear brainwashed? We are getting the truth from somewhere.

Yes, there is questionable media reporting from the right, but don't pretend that they are both equal partners in crime. Not even close.
Never said they were equal but they are all guilty. None of them are impartial. None of them present just the facts. they all wrap stories in their own biases. Some more than others to be sure. Some don't even present the facts they present lies.
 

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Here is why I get enraged by Biden's blatant lie about "5 officers killed during January 6": one officer, Brian Sicknick, died the next day of a stroke. Four other officers committed suicide months or years later.

So just pawning off their deaths as being due to January 6 ignores the fact that a lot of our police are killing themselves. This article from 2019 underscored the problem, noting that police officers were the highest occupation in terms of suicide rate.


Note that was BEFORE the "defund the police" and the massive anti-police propaganda in 2020 and thereafter. So the real concern is that a significant number of police officers are taking their own lives and the slime getting rich off the taxpayer does not really care. Pols are more interested in how they can use propaganda to harvest every nickel from the officer's deaths.
 

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Never said they were equal but they are all guilty. None of them are impartial. None of them present just the facts. they all wrap stories in their own biases. Some more than others to be sure. Some don't even present the facts they present lies.
I disagree vehemently with "none of them present the facts." The facts have to come from somewhere.
There shouldn't be sides with regard to the news media to begin with.
If mainstream journalism had stuck to just reporting the facts and truth, rather than become operatives for the Demonrat party, there wouldn't be sides.
Breitbart, Newsmax, Daily Mail, RedState, etc. wouldn't exist, maybe not even FOX and their "fair and balanced" approach.

Sorry, but my buttons get pushed when I get the impression that people suggest both sides are equally guilty.

That applies to the media, politicians/parties, and to the liberal/conservative on the street.

Sometimes I wish they were both equally as bad. I would sleep better.
 
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I disagree vehemently with "none of them present the facts." The facts have to come from somewhere.
There shouldn't be sides with regard to the news media to begin with.
If mainstream journalism had stuck to just reporting the facts and truth, rather than become operatives for the Demonrat party, there wouldn't be sides.
Breitbart, Newsmax, Daily Mail, RedState, etc. wouldn't exist, maybe not even FOX and their "fair and balanced" approach.

Sorry, but my buttons get pushed when I get the impression that people suggest both sides are equally guilty.

That applies to the media, politicians/parties, and to the liberal/conservative on the street.

Sometimes I wish they were both equally as bad. I would sleep better.
To say Fox only presents facts would be disingenuous at best. I have seen them take speeches out of context from the left the same way the MSM has done to Trump and others. Finding the facts requires listening to both sides and researching this **** for ourselves, watching full speeches not edited clips and having some common sense. Fox is more honest than the MSM but that isn't hard to accomplish. C-Span is about the only non biased source left and it is revolting to watch these inept fools do their jobs.
 

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To say Fox only presents facts would be disingenuous at best. I have seen them take speeches out of context from the left the same way the MSM has done to Trump and others. Finding the facts requires listening to both sides and researching this **** for ourselves, watching full speeches not edited clips and having some common sense. Fox is more honest than the MSM but that isn't hard to accomplish. C-Span is about the only non biased source left and it is revolting to watch these inept fools do their jobs.
In their opinion driven shows yes. Their news coverage is pretty spot on though.
 

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In their opinion driven shows yes. Their news coverage is pretty spot on though.
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You are a freeloading *****, and such a **** you make up claims about what other people supposedly said. So freeloader, go ahead and cite one comment (other than yours) citing "Dominion" voting machines, or in fact citing Dominion, as determining the election.

I'll wait. Again. And again. And again. And again.

P.S. Still wearing a mask or are you a murderer?

P.P.S. I admit after searching that I cited "Dominion" at least 7 times. However, I was referring to mock drafts and the Steelers drafting a TE from Old Dominion - Zach Kuntz.

Huh. Relative?
 
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You are a freeloading *****, and such a **** you make up claims about what other people supposedly said. So freeloader, go ahead and cite one comment (other than yours) citing "Dominion" voting machines, or in fact citing Dominion, as determining the election.

I'll wait. Again. And again. And again. And again.

P.S. Still wearing a mask or are you a murderer?

P.P.S. I admit after searching that I cited "Dominion" at least 7 times. However, I was referring to mock drafts and the Steelers drafting a TE from Old Dominion - Zach Kuntz.

Huh. Relative?

Go ahead counselor, defend your buddy Tim. Again, no ******* way you were a lawyer. No ******* way!

A 25% difference between machine counts and hand counts. "Elections are Legit!"

Torrance County, NM recently held an audit of their primary election and the results were presented today, showing a 25% difference between machine and hand count results. The problem was with Dominion tabulators, which consistently undercounted republican votes.



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It's the same issue found in Georgia. All Dominion machines.

 

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Go ahead counselor, defend your buddy Tim. Again, no ******* way you were a lawyer. No ******* way!

Floggy, are you able to read? The article says exactly what TSF said it says regarding a New Mexico vote audit, you blithering imbecile.

Did Dominion sue Williamson County regarding that finding? So da fuq does that have to do with Dominion lawsuit or the Capital riot??
 

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Go ahead counselor, defend your buddy Tim. Again, no ******* way you were a lawyer. No ******* way!

Jimmy threatened to choot me dead.

We are no friends.

More examples of your delusion.
 

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Floggy, are you able to read? The article says exactly what TSF said it says regarding a New Mexico vote audit, you blithering imbecile.

Did Dominion sue Williamson County regarding that finding? So da fuq does that have to do with Dominion lawsuit or the Capital riot??

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Never said they were equal but they are all guilty. None of them are impartial. None of them present just the facts. they all wrap stories in their own biases. Some more than others to be sure. Some don't even present the facts they present lies.
Even if both sides presented have their biases. Study both sides thorough enough and there is bound to be a common denominator. Find that common denominator, clue in the descriuprencies from both sides then critical thinking and common sense can start piecing together plausible alternatives
 

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Even if both sides presented have their biases. Study both sides thorough enough and there is bound to be a common denominator. Find that common denominator, clue in the descriuprencies from both sides then critical thinking and common sense can start piecing together plausible alternatives

Agree, absolutely. However, nobody can doubt that the VAST majority of major media (NBC, ABC, CBS, NPR, WaPo, NYT, LATimes, ChiTrib, and on and on) lean heavily in just one direction. HEAVILY.

Further, the truth is also that the same side is actively trying to shut down the speech of political opponents. The FBI actively interfered in the 2020 election with the inane, bogus "Russia collusion" hoax, and then 51 "security experts" proclaim Crackhead's laptop "Russian disinformation" and suppress the story??

Finally, the targeting and indoctrination begin early, in school. The one-size fits all, atheist, government-good-business-bad, poor-people-good-rich-people-bad, socialism-good-capitalism-bad propaganda flows nonstop for years of education.

The result is that you get a generation of young adults who lack the skills for critical thinking and slurp up the leftist talking points like cherry Jello. That level of indoctrination is very difficult to resist. Most North Koreans actually believe that Kim Jung Il actually shot 38-under par the first time he ever played golf, including 11 holes in one.

And equally as preposterous, most young adults believe government is more interested in protecting and helping them than in protecting and enriching government.
 

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Go ahead counselor, defend your buddy Tim. Again, no ******* way you were a lawyer. No ******* way!
awfully odd take from a guy whose sworn party allegiance supports the idea of allowing someone to claim themselves to be something they are clearly not and brow beating then cancelling those who oppose.
 

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awfully odd take from a guy whose sworn party allegiance supports the idea of allowing someone to claim themselves to be something they are clearly not and brow beating then cancelling those who oppose.
Not to mention the terminators of the unborn...
 

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awfully odd take from a guy whose sworn party allegiance supports the idea of allowing someone to claim themselves to be something they are clearly not and brow beating then cancelling those who oppose.
The result of the decisions made in his own career choice would be my guess. Immaturity combined with jealousy of others rarely works out in life.
 

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Agree, absolutely. However, nobody can doubt that the VAST majority of major media (NBC, ABC, CBS, NPR, WaPo, NYT, LATimes, ChiTrib, and on and on) lean heavily in just one direction. HEAVILY.

Further, the truth is also that the same side is actively trying to shut down the speech of political opponents. The FBI actively interfered in the 2020 election with the inane, bogus "Russia collusion" hoax, and then 51 "security experts" proclaim Crackhead's laptop "Russian disinformation" and suppress the story??

Finally, the targeting and indoctrination begin early, in school. The one-size fits all, atheist, government-good-business-bad, poor-people-good-rich-people-bad, socialism-good-capitalism-bad propaganda flows nonstop for years of education.

The result is that you get a generation of young adults who lack the skills for critical thinking and slurp up the leftist talking points like cherry Jello. That level of indoctrination is very difficult to resist. Most North Koreans actually believe that Kim Jung Il actually shot 38-under par the first time he ever played golf, including 11 holes in one.

And equally as preposterous, most young adults believe government is more interested in protecting and helping them than in protecting and enriching the government's friends and allies in foreign lands.
Geez, can't believe you messed that ending.
 

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Man the Dems are grasping at straws trying to spin this.


Rep. Sanchez steps on a rake but is too dumb to know she stepped on a rake.
 
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