I'm seeing on FB there is already some blowback from Browns fans over signing a 22 time (alleged) sexual predator.
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GREAT post (s) tapeANsperin2it, thanks
I fully agree and can use Ben Roethlisberger as an example of raising other players up. Ben did this regularly regardless of the player brought in. His contract didn't hurt the STEELERS due to this fact.
The Browns will be a wait and see, can Watson perform to an elevated level as many seem to think or is it he was a product of the system? He is near even in the win / loss colum and that is where it matters most. He will need that colum to dramatically change in his favor because if not....... then the Factory of Sadness will continue.
I think the Factory of Sadness is alive and well and will continue a spiral over the next 2-3 + years.
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Just read these details on his contract. He will make 2.7 million per game. Below is from Peter King.
I don’t know how this happened, and I don’t know whether there was internal disagreement among the owners or executives of the Browns about signing Watson. I don’t know if the Browns volunteered to do this five-year, $230-million deal, the one with $80 million more in guarantees than any contract in NFL history, or if it was what Watson’s camp insisted. It doesn’t matter. The result is the result: Deshaun Watson got a $74-million raise after sitting out the 2021 season (the difference between his Houston contract and the new Cleveland pact) while his legal fate was being decided. How does this happen?
What is also reprehensible is the fact that Watson’s signing bonus is a reported $45 million, while his first-year salary is a relatively puny $1.035 million, which becomes significant if he gets suspended, as is widely expected. The suspension and resulting fine would come out of his salary only. Say the NFL bans him for six games. The fine would be $345,000, which is seven-tenths of 1 percent of his 2022 compensation.
I don’t know how this happened, and I don’t know whether there was internal disagreement among the owners or executives of the Browns about signing Watson. I don’t know if the Browns volunteered to do this five-year, $230-million deal, the one with $80 million more in guarantees than any contract in NFL history, or if it was what Watson’s camp insisted. It doesn’t matter. The result is the result: Deshaun Watson got a $74-million raise after sitting out the 2021 season (the difference between his Houston contract and the new Cleveland pact) while his legal fate was being decided. How does this happen?
What is also reprehensible is the fact that Watson’s signing bonus is a reported $45 million, while his first-year salary is a relatively puny $1.035 million, which becomes significant if he gets suspended, as is widely expected. The suspension and resulting fine would come out of his salary only. Say the NFL bans him for six games. The fine would be $345,000, which is seven-tenths of 1 percent of his 2022 compensation.
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If the league had any moral they would suspend him in his 2nd season.
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Pretty funny vid. Probably accurate too
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That's what I was wondering, prolong the investigation, after all there are twenty alleged victims that we know of. Due diligence in an investigation would involve attempting to identify and interview every personal massuse in the Houston area as well as all cities Houston played in during his career lol. You could definitely extend this until this time next year.
Better yet, complete the investigation game 16 and suspend him for the playoffs (if they make it) and the first eight games next year. As DIC is fond of saying, give them that RED HOT POKER.
If Ben got 4 games for 2 allegations then Watson should get 44 games for 22 allegations.
Hey, I'm just doing the math.
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MOLLY ROSE WAS PISSED DURING FIRST TAKE...Basically she said the NFL soes not give a **** if a player abuses women and children..."A slap in the face to women everywhere"...
I hope they start an abused women's organization and protest for women's rights & call it POS
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Goodell does whatever Twitter demands. He gave Ray Rice 3 games knowing all of the details and having seen the video. I know he denied ever seeing the video but nobody believes that. Then only after Twitter was outraged did he essentially blackball Rice from the league. Rice should have sued.
so far Twitter has been mostly silent. They are preoccupied pretending they care about Ukraine. But eventually they will get back to Watson. I’m hoping Goodell does impose a punishment and Watson accepts just like Rice did and then the twitter outrage starts. Goodell got away with the extra punishment for Rice because he was mostly washed up as a player anyway so he just went away.
Watson will not just go away. If Goodell tries to increase his punishment later, Watson will fight him and i would think he’d win.
Imagine this nightmare scenario for the Cleveland. Watson accepts an 8 game (or whatever) suspension. Then as week 9 approaches, Twitter gets outraged. You have protests at the stadium and people demanding sponsors drop the browns. The pressure becomes so big that they can’t play Watson. Do they cut him? Do they let him sit out a keep getting paid?
so far Twitter has been mostly silent. They are preoccupied pretending they care about Ukraine. But eventually they will get back to Watson. I’m hoping Goodell does impose a punishment and Watson accepts just like Rice did and then the twitter outrage starts. Goodell got away with the extra punishment for Rice because he was mostly washed up as a player anyway so he just went away.
Watson will not just go away. If Goodell tries to increase his punishment later, Watson will fight him and i would think he’d win.
Imagine this nightmare scenario for the Cleveland. Watson accepts an 8 game (or whatever) suspension. Then as week 9 approaches, Twitter gets outraged. You have protests at the stadium and people demanding sponsors drop the browns. The pressure becomes so big that they can’t play Watson. Do they cut him? Do they let him sit out a keep getting paid?
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The NFL has gotten way to big that they make their own rules, even when leagal is invovled. I'm glad clevelan signed him and for the HUGE amout invovled that way the STEELERS have zero backlash had they signed him.
Some here wanted him, others didn't and I'm on the good riddence boat of super glad we didn't.
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Some here wanted him, others didn't and I'm on the good riddence boat of super glad we didn't.
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Plus he should have won a third 2 years later
that would be ******* lovely.
of course the NFL would have to work with Cleveland the Players Union to come to some sort of amicable agreement for Watson to suffer an immediate career ending injury while working out, allowing the Clowns to move on from his contract and not owe him a dime, but the union to receive a bump in retirement payouts
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This could be the thing that hurts the browns most with public outcry. Not only did they sign him, but they intentionally structured his contract to help him avoid getting punished. Like Dr Mudd fixing John Wilkes Booth’s broken leg. Hence the phrase, your name is mud.
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Peter king asked a great question: how’s does Watson sitout a year with 22 assaults hanging over him then get a massive pay raise… how does this happened? It’s happens because there is basically 2 nfl’s. The one that spends millions of dollars on it’s imagine lecturing it’s viewers basically calling them racist bums and the other one that hires few minorities and acts like sexual assault is a traffic ticket. It’s all about imagine but I’m beginning to see LABRON’s point the nfl is a vestige of the old plantation system.
Im going to throw this out there yet again… this obviously doesn’t detract from the league’s hypocrisy but does help explain it
There are supposedly tons of sexual assault and domestic abuse claims made against pro athletes regularly and most aren’t reported ever… many are actually money grabs and schemes so the front office is probably desensitized when really obvious and bad real cases come up…
But yes the pure optics of trading so much for him then giving the guy a huge raise meant to keep him from being punished in the midst of the civil case is horribly unflattering
If the internal investigation says he is likely guilty he should be suspended indefinitely and they shouldn’t reinstate him until say game five next season … or whatever the equivalent is for what a suspension under his previous contract would have been… thats what is fair… look at his old contract, figure out tge games he would have gotten and what he would have lost, and make him sit put the equivalent amount costwise under the new contract…
i assure you nobody will ever try that again, especially if you dock the browns a draft pick for intentionally trying to circumvent league justice lol
There are supposedly tons of sexual assault and domestic abuse claims made against pro athletes regularly and most aren’t reported ever… many are actually money grabs and schemes so the front office is probably desensitized when really obvious and bad real cases come up…
But yes the pure optics of trading so much for him then giving the guy a huge raise meant to keep him from being punished in the midst of the civil case is horribly unflattering
If the internal investigation says he is likely guilty he should be suspended indefinitely and they shouldn’t reinstate him until say game five next season … or whatever the equivalent is for what a suspension under his previous contract would have been… thats what is fair… look at his old contract, figure out tge games he would have gotten and what he would have lost, and make him sit put the equivalent amount costwise under the new contract…
i assure you nobody will ever try that again, especially if you dock the browns a draft pick for intentionally trying to circumvent league justice lol
Remember Jerome Bettis was the victim of a bizarre blackmail plot.
And Bettis got extremely lucky. Had the girl not blabbed the plan, Bettis’s rep would be in taters or he would have paid handily to keep it quiet…
after seeing the contract, trade and backlash, I'm really glad we were not involved in this mess. He's a very talented QB, but not worth all of this. I approve of the Trubisky signing and what he cost and we gave up. Nothing.
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Definitely agree. We will find out how talented Watson is and also his wheels are a part of that. A year out does make a difference but it was a healthy year out.
He will be on a lowered talented team soon as they will have "cap" cuts soon enough.
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Report: Steelers would be interested in Browns QB Baker Mayfield
If Baker Mayfield is released, the Steelers could consider signing him.
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Watson not out of woods yet with criminal charges.
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Second Texas grand jury declines to indict Deshaun Watson
Two weeks after a grand jury in Harris County declined to indict Watson on criminal charges, a second grand jury in Brazoria County did the same.
