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Whee! The US is cashing in its banana republic coupon!! [Trump indicted]

whoever has not been preparing for what is coming. I really feel sorry for you. this **** is not going to end well. I never thought I would see this in my life time but I am really believing that before to much longer there will be a civil war in this country. we can not continue down this same road and expect people to not fight back eventually, that is unless we have become so pussyfied that we just role over and die.
There are still way too many citizens living comfy for a war.

Civil unrest at best.
All the signs of civil war only look plausible because of social media/technology. Even then every state has liberal/conservative populations. It would be very hard to define lines from the get go.


Youth movements, economic turmoils have existed in this country for quite some time. This is nothing new. It’s more accessible with social media. Nothing will happen. At least in our lifetime.



Put it this way. Anytime this country has had a natural disaster. Americans despite skin color, political leanings have helped each other. Whether it was hurricanes, the recent tornadoes in the south. Americans lend a hand when called upon.

Sure you get the looters here and there.
 
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The reason for the indictment is simple.
It's now or never.

They had no choice.
There ya go......the Libtards are scared to death Trump will run against Biden and turn everything in their post pandemic utopia upside down. He has to be taken OFF the table before the election. If this doesn't work, they damn sure have plan B and C in the works.

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Meanwhile back on the campaign circuit......​

Trump, the first former president indicted in American history, hauls in $4 million in fundraising after the announcement​

An indictment for any alleged crime, the accompanying perp walk and ensuing court hearings may sound like a death knell for a politician on the ballot. But for Donald Trump — hardly a normal politician — it’s a gift.

The former president has long thrived on chaos and turmoil as he’s successfully portrayed himself to his supporters as a victim of the establishment, the "deep state," liberal forces and the mainstream media.

And Trump’s 2024 presidential campaign quickly capitalized on the announcement Thursday that he would become the first former president in U.S. history to be charged with a crime.
 
This needs to happen. Count suits by state AGs or every crooked Pol out there, their families and associates.

Conservatives call for charges against Biden after Trump indictment​


WASHINGTON — Thursday’s indictment of former President Donald Trump has set a precedent enabling Republican prosecutors to seek criminal charges against President Biden, conservative legal experts told The Post Friday.

“All bets are off. You can expect grand jury indictments of leftist politicians like Biden, [former House Speaker Nancy] Pelosi and [Senate Majority Leader Chuck] Schumer as surely as night follows day,” said Tom Fitton, president of the conservative legal group Judicial Watch.

“You can be sure that there are prosecutors across Florida and Texas right now who are looking for a state law hook into the Biden family,” he added. “And if they’re not, they’re not doing their jobs.”

Trump, 76, is the first former president to face criminal charges as he seeks a 2024 rematch against Biden. The sealed indictment reportedly stems from a novel document-falsification theory pushed by Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg regarding Trump’s 2016 hush-money payment to porn star Stormy Daniels.

“Republicans need to learn how to take off the gloves and put on the brass knuckles and break glass jaws — politically and legally, not physically,” Mike Davis, a former chief counsel for nominations on the Senate Judiciary Committee and president of the Article III Project, told The Post.

“If New York can turn a routine settlement of a business dispute seven years ago into a felony, I think our Republican AGs and DAs should get creative,” added Davis, who briefly worked as a federal prosecutor before clerking for Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch. “Two wrongs don’t make it right, but it makes it even.

“You just need probable cause. A grand jury can indict a ham sandwich. We just saw that in New York. And the Bidens actually committed real crimes. These are real crimes that the Bidens committed. There is smoking gun evidence that the Bidens were corruptly and illegally on Chinese and Ukrainian oligarchs’ payrolls.”

The recognition of the likely fallout from the Trump charges — and the sea change to US legal norms — spanned the political spectrum.

“The Republicans will be furiously seeking revenge and may try to pin Biden with something,” predicted left-wing social commentator Noam Chomsky, a professor emeritus at MIT, though the 94-year-old added that some cases — such as war crimes charges — would still be considered off-limits to partisans.

Trump ally Joe Arpaio, the former sheriff of Maricopa County, Ariz., said he believes the legal system has a “double standard” against Republicans such as Trump, who in 2017 gave his first pardon to the controversial lawman in a criminal contempt case.

“The criminal justice system is not always fair, believe me, and this is an example,” Arpaio said.

“This sets a little precedent,” said the ex-sheriff of America’s fourth-most-populous county. “Now the word is out that you can go and indict an ex-president and a current president and they opened another door. But now everybody’s going to flex their muscles and use this case. So now we’re gonna threaten all presidents or ex presidents.”
 
This needs to happen. Count suits by state AGs or every crooked Pol out there, their families and associates.

Conservatives call for charges against Biden after Trump indictment​

Wake me when republicans do anything. I wouldn't want to miss it.

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Wake me when republicans do anything. I wouldn't want to miss it.

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I agree. They’re all career crooks and all friends when the cameras are off.

I hope Trump exposes a lot if he gets the worst of it
 
I still want to talk to a lawyer about the Ponzi scheme called Social Security...
 
“All bets are off. You can expect grand jury indictments of leftist politicians like Biden, [former House Speaker Nancy] Pelosi and [Senate Majority Leader Chuck] Schumer as surely as night follows day,” said Tom Fitton, president of the conservative legal group Judicial Watch.
Forgot one.....

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If they do that, then Trump can't even defend himself publicly. They can say whatever they want. I mean, they do anyway, but at least he can retort.
that's just it. they allege that he'll go off "unscripted" against the charge and he won't ... get this ... be able to get ... ready? ... a fair trial.
 
Pretty interesting read related to the thread.

Under fire, Trump builds a wall in Congress​


Members of the House who have endorsed Trump
For the 2024 presidential election; As of March 29, 2023​

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Former President Trump has been endorsed by 37 House Republicans — including more than a third of the GOP members on Judiciary and Oversight, two committees he's pushing to investigate President Biden and Manhattan's district attorney.

Why it matters: Trump's endorsements, which also include five Republican senators, reflect the congressional wall of support he has built to boost his 2024 presidential campaign — and help him dig up dirt on his political and legal foes.
  • Trump, now facing criminal charges in New York, frequently chats by phone with supporters such as House Judiciary chair Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) and GOP Conference chair Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.) to discuss Republicans' probes into Biden and Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg.
  • Jordan and Stefanik — also members of the Judiciary's panel that targets what it calls the "weaponization" of law enforcement against conservatives — are particularly key players in Trump's orbit.
  • They wield significant influence on panels that have tried—so far unsuccessfully—to get documents and testimony from Bragg's probe into alleged hush money payments Trump made to porn star Stormy Daniels.
The big picture: Trump has been able to maintain a grip on much of the GOP base even as he's faced criminal investigations in New York and Georgia, and by the Justice Department.
  • 9 of the 25 Republicans on the House Judiciary Committee support him.
  • 11 of the 26 Republicans on House Oversight do as well.
Zoom in: Trump backers in the House leadership also include Rep. Richard Hudson (R-N.C.), chair of the National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC).
  • Other notable House Republicans endorsing Trump include Jim Banks (Indiana), who is running for Senate, Small Business Committee chair Roger Williams (Texas), Veterans Affairs chair Mike Bost (Illinois), and Ronny Jackson (Texas).
  • Trump's endorsements in the Senate: Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Tommy Tuberville (R-Ala.), J.D. Vance (R-Ohio), Eric Schmitt (R-Mo.), and Markwayne Mullin (R-Oka.).
Between the lines: In recent weeks, Jackson and Stefanik have been calling House colleagues on Trump's behalf, asking for endorsements, people familiar with the calls tell Axios.
  • Team Trump has been keeping close tabs on who has endorsed — and who hasn't.
  • At his rally in Waco, Texas, last weekend, Trump suggested that GOP lawmakers who did not endorse him were not welcome at his rallies: "If they don't endorse me, I said don't even come."
  • But Trump recognizes there are allies — such as Kentucky Rep. James Comer, chair of House Oversight — who have been helpful to him but have not yet endorsed.
 
Pretty interesting read related to the thread.

Under fire, Trump builds a wall in Congress​


Members of the House who have endorsed Trump

For the 2024 presidential election; As of March 29, 2023​


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Former President Trump has been endorsed by 37 House Republicans — including more than a third of the GOP members on Judiciary and Oversight, two committees he's pushing to investigate President Biden and Manhattan's district attorney.

Why it matters: Trump's endorsements, which also include five Republican senators, reflect the congressional wall of support he has built to boost his 2024 presidential campaign — and help him dig up dirt on his political and legal foes.
  • Trump, now facing criminal charges in New York, frequently chats by phone with supporters such as House Judiciary chair Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) and GOP Conference chair Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.) to discuss Republicans' probes into Biden and Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg.
  • Jordan and Stefanik — also members of the Judiciary's panel that targets what it calls the "weaponization" of law enforcement against conservatives — are particularly key players in Trump's orbit.
  • They wield significant influence on panels that have tried—so far unsuccessfully—to get documents and testimony from Bragg's probe into alleged hush money payments Trump made to porn star Stormy Daniels.
The big picture: Trump has been able to maintain a grip on much of the GOP base even as he's faced criminal investigations in New York and Georgia, and by the Justice Department.
  • 9 of the 25 Republicans on the House Judiciary Committee support him.
  • 11 of the 26 Republicans on House Oversight do as well.
Zoom in: Trump backers in the House leadership also include Rep. Richard Hudson (R-N.C.), chair of the National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC).
  • Other notable House Republicans endorsing Trump include Jim Banks (Indiana), who is running for Senate, Small Business Committee chair Roger Williams (Texas), Veterans Affairs chair Mike Bost (Illinois), and Ronny Jackson (Texas).
  • Trump's endorsements in the Senate: Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Tommy Tuberville (R-Ala.), J.D. Vance (R-Ohio), Eric Schmitt (R-Mo.), and Markwayne Mullin (R-Oka.).
Between the lines: In recent weeks, Jackson and Stefanik have been calling House colleagues on Trump's behalf, asking for endorsements, people familiar with the calls tell Axios.
  • Team Trump has been keeping close tabs on who has endorsed — and who hasn't.
  • At his rally in Waco, Texas, last weekend, Trump suggested that GOP lawmakers who did not endorse him were not welcome at his rallies: "If they don't endorse me, I said don't even come."
  • But Trump recognizes there are allies — such as Kentucky Rep. James Comer, chair of House Oversight — who have been helpful to him but have not yet endorsed.
according to that venn diagram, the person closest to Trump is Jim Jordan.
If I were Jim Jordan, I'd have all my t's crossed, i's dotted, etc.
If they're going after Trump for something as bogus as paying a porn star to keep her mouth closed over any sex they may have or may NOT have had, then you can bet they're eyeing up Jordan, too.

and here's what I don't follow ...


Stormy was paid a hush fee. which we know she violated and has been ordered to pay money to Trump.
Stormy was paid this by one of Trump's attorneys - Michael Cohen paid Stormy... per cnn:

The grand jury empaneled as part of the investigation into Donald Trump’s alleged role in a scheme to pay hush money to adult film star Stormy Daniels on Monday heard from a potentially key witness put forward by the former president’s legal team.

Robert Costello, an attorney who has previously represented Trump allies like Steve Bannon and Rudy Giuliani, testified before the grand jury in New York for nearly three hours Monday afternoon after appearing at the request of the former president’s legal team.

Costello was expected to offer evidence that contradicts testimony provided by former Trump attorney Michael Cohen, who has admitted to paying $130,000 to Daniels just before the 2016 election to stop her from going public about an alleged affair with the former president. Trump has denied the affair.

Part of Cohen's duties as Trump's attorney were to shield his client from any potential harm - libel, slander, etc. I'd imagine that when you're Trump's attorney, you are constantly bombarded with accusations, etc. Would it be too far out of the realm of possibility that Trump has a fund set aside to pay people off so as to limit his use of attorneys, court rooms, etc and tarnish his reputation (any further - as he wasn't too well liked by many New Yorkers).

*Coincidentally, this is the same golf tournament that Ben was at when he was also accused of rape

So, is it likely or even possible, that Cohen paid Stormy Daniels this money from a fund that Trump has set up, that is then resupplied when necessary, and that this fund is then "billed" under "Attorney Fees" for accounting purposes?

In this sense, that would also clean the trail from Trump, and put the onus on Cohen as to who was recipient of any pay out and why. Cohen would obviously not pay just anyone, so there has to be some smoke to any accusatory fire. So it's known that Trump was at this golf tournament. It's also known that Stormy Daniels was also at this golf tournament.

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whether Trump did or did not slide it in Stormy is not the question. Trump has maintained from the start that he did not know anything about a payment to Stormy Daniels. For a man who is prone to go off "unscripted" it would seem that he'd have gone off on some wild tangent by now had he know he was paying off Stormy Daniels. However, since he was also about to run for POTUS at this time, he was very likely with his attention elsewhere - "lock her up", etc.

Also, the very fact that this was a federal election and the feds refused to touch this case, while a local DA (Bragg is a NYC - Manhattan DA) has decided to step outside his purview and make a local charge for a federal case makes this reek of politically driven. Especially when one considers that investigating Trump was the primary drive behind Bragg's campaign.

And, no, we should not sick the legal system on political opponents, even if candidates suggest they're going to investigate one another or "lock her up" as it weaponizes the political system altogether. Hillary was never locked up, nor even more than casually investigated, despite numerous run-ins and meltdowns of electronic devices that could contain sensitive materials.

So - my question - if Trump did pay Stormy, and he did per Cohen, is it likely or is it unlikely that he knew he was paying her? And, for a man with obvious millions in the bank, why would anyone think it came from campaign donations?
 
That b!tch is ugly.
 
That b!tch is ugly.
she has big fake titties and can I'll assume can suck a **** like you'd not believe.

that can overcome any facial defects... with a facial.
 
So - my question - if Trump did pay Stormy, and he did per Cohen, is it likely or is it unlikely that he knew he was paying her? And, for a man with obvious millions in the bank, why would anyone think it came from campaign donations?
Even if he did, it's still not illegal.
Jim Quinn has said repeatedly from the beginning that he doubts Trump got with Stormy Daniels because he's a germaphobe who washes his hands ever 20 minutes so it's unlikely he had unprotected sex with a porn star.
 
Even if he did, it's still not illegal.
Jim Quinn has said repeatedly from the beginning that he doubts Trump got with Stormy Daniels because he's a germaphobe who washes his hands ever 20 minutes so it's unlikely he had unprotected sex with a porn star.

Yet binges on McDonalds food. Makes no damned sense to me lol
 
Excellent read.

Yes, We Have Gone Bananas​


The two big stories this week illustrate the corruption of the legal system and of the Democrat party, which controls key portions of it. As well, they illustrate the media’s continuing effort to deny us the truth we see with our own eyes.

The Indictment of President Trump

New York District Attorney Alvin Bragg, Jr. has indicted former President Trump. Arraignment is scheduled on Tuesday. Sometime before then we are likely to see the charges against him, which reportedly -- as is the normal order of weak cases -- run to over 20 counts. Charging so many counts is a prosecutorial trick based on experience: Some jurors may think the more counts there are the greater the likelihood of a pony hiding in the manure pile; others may just want to get out of the deliberations and agree to one or two to get out of there. Almost universal criticism of this move, by even the editors of the Washington Post, suggests there is ample reason to believe this is a meritless, politically motivated prosecution.

Quick polls suggest that this view has purchase:

"Republicans (93 – 5 percent) and independents (70 – 26 percent) think the Manhattan District Attorney’s case is mainly motivated by politics, while Democrats (66 – 29 percent) think the case is mainly motivated by the law,” Quinnipiac announced in a press release.

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Per Quinnipiac, that means that 62% of all Americans “think the Manhattan District Attorney’s case involving former President Donald Trump is mainly motivated by politics, while 32 percent think the case is mainly motivated by the law.
Bragg’s office (a New York state operation) received federal funds to investigate Trump, and if you think Attorney General Merrick Garland was not in some way involved in this matter, you and I are in disagreement.

Within 24 hours of the announcement of the indictment, supporters donated $4 million dollars to Trump. In the meantime, the Secret Service is working with law enforcement in New York to coordinate the arraignment choreography. Of course, given the prejudice against him in New York among jurists and likely jurors, the case is not without danger to him, but I wonder how many Secret Service personnel would be tasked to serving in jail with him?

Apart from the absurdity of charging him on matters long dismissed by even Bragg himself, the first thing that comes to my mind is that this is once again evidence of the two-tiered justice system. Vivek Ramaswamy, a very brilliant candidate for president, shares this belief, tweeting:

America now has a two-tiered justice system: -- Trump is indicted while Clinton pays a small fine -- Antifa & BLM rioters roam free while Jan 6 protesters are imprisoned without bail -- Douglass Mackey faces 10 years for the same joking memes that Kristina Wong posts with impunity
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You could throw a dart at a chart of recent prosecution efforts and hit more examples than Vivek cites. Just this week the FBI counterterrorism unit (apparently on a break from spying on school-board meetings) arrested a Virginia grandma. Her purported crime? She accompanied her elderly mother on a peaceful 15-minute walk in the Capitol on January 6.

On the other hand, ample evidence exists supporting Michael Walsh’s observation: ”Think of the Democratic Party as it really is: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party.” And there seem to be no consequences for their criminal behavior. The Biden family corruption has received government and media censorship for years and gone unpunished. It increasingly becomes plain to see with still absolutely no consequences. Don Surber notes the most recent evidence of it:

ITEM 10%: Breitbart reported, “A bank founded by Chinese-Americans that facilitated many Biden family transactions voluntarily provided Republican investigators with Biden family bank records, a stark difference from the current practices of U.S. banks, Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) revealed Sunday.

“Cathay Bank, which has offices in the U.S. and communist China, voluntarily provided Johnson’s investigation with 200 bank records from 2017 and 2018 showing how the Biden family moved money through a complicated web of entities. The specific records revealed transactions between Hunter Biden-linked business entities and Chinese energy firm CEFC, whose top company lieutenant was the ‘spy chief of China,’ according to Hunter Biden.”

Red China is saying, we own him: what are you gonna do about it?

James O’Keefe has uncovered what appears to be a huge multi-million dollar campaign money laundering scheme using the left-wing ActBlue as a conduit: ActBlue reports thousands of dollars from thousands of unemployed persons to Democrat candidates. On a door-to-door survey purported donors denied to O’Keefe and those working with him that they made such donations, and from all appearances they were never in a financial position to do so.

The highly suspicious nature of these ActBlue “donations” has been out in the open for a long time and yet nobody has done anything about it. Now James O’Keefe, a modern-day Elliot Ness of sorts, has burst in and exposed the looks-like-money-laundering pattern going on with the Democrats’ preferred fundraising platform.

And the fact nobody in the federal government does anything about it, if in fact they don’t, is its own indictment.

The Transgender Shooting

On Monday, March 27, Audrey Hale, who was being treated for an emotional disorder and who self-identified as a transgendered male named Aiden, smashed through a door at Covenant school, a Christian elementary school in Nashville, and shot and killed three nine-year-old students and three faculty members before two police officers shot and killed her. The President decided this was a good time to proclaim Thursday, March 31 as “Transgender Day of Visibility” saying transgendered people “shape our nation’s soul.” Those transgender activists who “shape our nation’s soul” renamed March 31 a “Day of Vengeance.”

The media largely treated the shooter as a victim and transgendered persons in general as crime victims, a tactic likely to encourage more mentally disturbed people to believe they are being targeted -- even by nine-year-old elementary students who must be eradicated.

If transgendered people are more victimized than others, it is not that normal people want to harm them because they are transgendered or think they are, it is because they often engage in such risky behaviors as prostitution. Male, female, and transgendered people engaging in prostitution are always exposing themselves to violence. Those who have surveyed this connection usually blame bias in hiring and such for forcing transgenders into sex work. I’d like to see how often mental disorders are really causative. Even when not engaged in prostitution, because they are disordered, they may have difficulty finding non-violent partners and I imagine they are more likely to engage in other risky practices, like drug use. In any event, the media’s rush to sympathize with perpetrators over victims is infuriating. Equally absurd is the media adopting language like “the sex assigned at birth” and “gender affirming care,” as if medical personnel just pick the baby’s sex out of the ether instead of acknowledging the observed genitalia of newborns, and as if castration of boys and breast removal of girls, is somehow “care” of adolescents too young to have firm sexual identities.
 
This stuff has progressively gotten worse because the enemy faces no consequences for their actions. They dole out the consequences and control the scales of justice by placing their hand on it heavily.

Funny I heard on the radio about how they've ramped up security and will not allow rioting and destruction of property in NY. It will be dealt with swiftly. Really? As if conservative groups are violent. They're the least violent, but the most trained and skilled in it. Peace through strength. Yet, NY turns loose violent criminals they refuse to prosecute. They ignored ANTIFA & BLM while they burned,destroyed and looted. We know they're just the funded street arm of the dems anyway.


I'm sure they'd love any kind of violence from conservatives so they can go see I told you. They're terrorists.

True is if they ever get conservatives to turn violent by the masses it will be because it is the very last resort. You force men who only want peace to cross the point of no return. It's full game on.


So far this country just keeps eating this big fat **** sandwich and sitting on the sofa watching TV.
 
 
This stuff has progressively gotten worse because the enemy faces no consequences for their actions. They dole out the consequences and control the scales of justice by placing their hand on it heavily.

Funny I heard on the radio about how they've ramped up security and will not allow rioting and destruction of property in NY. It will be dealt with swiftly. Really? As if conservative groups are violent. They're the least violent, but the most trained and skilled in it. Peace through strength. Yet, NY turns loose violent criminals they refuse to prosecute. They ignored ANTIFA & BLM while they burned,destroyed and looted. We know they're just the funded street arm of the dems anyway.


I'm sure they'd love any kind of violence from conservatives so they can go see I told you. They're terrorists.

True is if they ever get conservatives to turn violent by the masses it will be because it is the very last resort. You force men who only want peace to cross the point of no return. It's full game on.


So far this country just keeps eating this big fat **** sandwich and sitting on the sofa watching TV.
what? no spaces to destroy? aint that be illegal to deny that now?
 
This stuff has progressively gotten worse because the enemy faces no consequences for their actions. They dole out the consequences and control the scales of justice by placing their hand on it heavily.

Funny I heard on the radio about how they've ramped up security and will not allow rioting and destruction of property in NY. It will be dealt with swiftly. Really? As if conservative groups are violent. They're the least violent, but the most trained and skilled in it. Peace through strength. Yet, NY turns loose violent criminals they refuse to prosecute. They ignored ANTIFA & BLM while they burned,destroyed and looted. We know they're just the funded street arm of the dems anyway.


I'm sure they'd love any kind of violence from conservatives so they can go see I told you. They're terrorists.

True is if they ever get conservatives to turn violent by the masses it will be because it is the very last resort. You force men who only want peace to cross the point of no return. It's full game on.


So far this country just keeps eating this big fat **** sandwich and sitting on the sofa watching TV.
Was telling my wife this morning that if a bunch of people riot and no one gets arrested then you’ll know it was all a put-up job by the Dems.
 
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