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Who would you take? Pick one.

MT~Forged said:
This team has many holes and is going nowhere the next couple years, so now is the time to draft foundation players.. All this BS of reloading not re-building, is just that, BS. This team needs rebuilt. It isn’t a teardown to the studs rebuild with new everything, but it is definitely a requirement of a major overhaul.

When building, there is a reason you do the foundation first. The same goes for a solid sports program. The OL & DL are your foundation, and this team has a crumbling foundation on both sides of the ball.
1. Highest rated OT or C
2. Highest rated DL or OT and C not taken in Round 1
3. Highest rated position not taken in Rd 2 or CB
After that look to fill with BPA in area of need.

FA signings are going to be at best 1-2 year players, since they are not in a position to get top players that are young enough to fill for 5-7 years. This is why you need to draft players to start in 1-2 years. They are in need of 3 QB’s, I fully expect at least one to come via the Draft, but don’t expect it in day 1, or even possibly day 2.

FA QB’s I would pursue:
Minshew
Mayfield
Huntley
Browning
Tannehill
The first two as competition to push KP, and start if they are better. The final 3 as possible B/U QB with an outside chance to start. I would also look to poach a PS QB as #3 with a chance to be the B/U. Taking a QB day 3 of the Draft means they compete for #3.
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You can cross Mayfield off the list he is already negotiating with the Bucs for a return. I don't think he makes it to free agency.
 
Black & Gold Bleeder said:
Please disregard nix and jpj . If a top tier QB and a top tier center are available. Are you going to bank on Kenny picket to go the distance next year based on what you have seen from him in the first 2 years?
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Top tier QB at 20 you take it, but it won't happen so center it is.

I'm all for trading down this draft and getting another mid round pick
 
slashsteel said:
You didn't get my metaphor? Well **** eat some bacon and reread it.😉
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BACON on ly works on some people.———————- this will be a good time too …………..



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Steelers will possibly pick up a vet QB. None of which on your list are any better than Rudolph. Just more money most likely. . According to Donald rumsfeld circa 2003 we go to war with the army we have , not the army we wish we had. They're going to keep plugging in players where needed. They will back fill voids in FA and draft who they draft. So now , we have our fa center. And even picked up a tannehill type. Draft arrives and you're looking at a top tier QB pick or a top center.
 
MT~Forged said:
This team has many holes and is going nowhere the next couple years, so now is the time to draft foundation players.. All this BS of reloading not re-building, is just that, BS. This team needs rebuilt. It isn’t a teardown to the studs rebuild with new everything, but it is definitely a requirement of a major overhaul.

When building, there is a reason you do the foundation first. The same goes for a solid sports program. The OL & DL are your foundation, and this team has a crumbling foundation on both sides of the ball.
1. Highest rated OT or C
2. Highest rated DL or OT and C not taken in Round 1
3. Highest rated position not taken in Rd 2 or CB
After that look to fill with BPA in area of need.

FA signings are going to be at best 1-2 year players, since they are not in a position to get top players that are young enough to fill for 5-7 years. This is why you need to draft players to start in 1-2 years. They are in need of 3 QB’s, I fully expect at least one to come via the Draft, but don’t expect it in day 1, or even possibly day 2.

FA QB’s I would pursue:
Minshew
Mayfield
Huntley
Browning
Tannehill
The first two as competition to push KP, and start if they are better. The final 3 as possible B/U QB with an outside chance to start. I would also look to poach a PS QB as #3 with a chance to be the B/U. Taking a QB day 3 of the Draft means they compete for #3.
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they NEED Zach Frazier. But they'll draft a LT pass-blocker because... #MismatchYourCallstoYourPlayers
 
Black & Gold Bleeder said:
It's first round. Steelers pick.
Both Jackson powers Johnson center, Oregon.
And Bo Nix, QB , Oregon are on the board. Who would you take?
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are any tackles available?

If had to pick between those two and those two only JPJ

But would assume other options available, would probably trade back a few if no legit tackle as 20 seems awful high for a center with a couple other options likely available with our 2nd pick and not sold on Bo Nix at all...sure don't want 2 over drafted QBs on the roster complicating the issue of already having 1
 
Black & Gold Bleeder said:
Please disregard nix and jpj . If a top tier QB and a top tier center are available. Are you going to bank on Kenny picket to go the distance next year based on what you have seen from him in the first 2 years?
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In that case you take a top-tier QB every time. Nix isn't a top-tier QB, IMO.
 
We wanna pound the ball right?

JPJ all day
 
slashsteel said:
Who is bashing him? I didn't lose rights to anything. Little odd choice of words but whatever. Do people have to agree with your take or is it ok to have a different opinion?

Rudy performed solid in a short span that is it. Nothing more. If you think he is more than that, that is your opinion you are entitled to it.

I evaluate in a fair playing field I won't sugarcoat what isn't showing. Sorry if you are looking for me to blow smoke up his arse you are debating the wrong person.
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Nah, its just you been bashing him all season, calling him rudy the rednosed back up etc. Then he came in and played well. Better than Kenny did all season. but no credit given. Its ok.. You dont prefer him to Kenny. You dont have to agree with me , Just pointing out truths. Do i think he is the be all end all next Tom Brady. NO. Not yet. Im all for competition at the position. Thats why i made this thread to talk about the fervor for Center vs the huge question mark at QB.

But maybe i made a difference. As you seem to want a QB in the first round according to your last mock in the other thread.
slashsteel said:
As Rudy has had plenty of time to show he is a starter and has shown that he still has the same concerns.
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he has less time playing than Kenny Picket.
 
Black & Gold Bleeder said:
Nah, its just you been bashing him all season, calling him rudy the rednosed back up etc. Then he came in and played well. Better than Kenny did all season. but no credit given. Its ok.. You dont prefer him to Kenny. You dont have to agree with me , Just pointing out truths. Do i think he is the be all end all next Tom Brady. NO. Not yet. Im all for competition at the position. Thats why i made this thread to talk about the fervor for Center vs the huge question mark at QB.

But maybe i made a difference. As you seem to want a QB in the first round according to your last mock in the other thread.

he has less time playing than Kenny Picket.
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Oh those red noses reindeer comments has nothing to do with conflict with another poster who obsessed over him?

Rudy has proven to be a starter?

Kenny isn't raw?

I didn't give Rudy credit? Plenty of posts exist that say otherwise.

I haven't been advocating for better QB play or drafting one and bringing in competition?

Ok

🙄

Anywho I won't agree Rudy's short body of work against backups , a bad defense . and a team missing their franchise gives him a permanent nod over Kenny. It just gave him a temporary start. That is what he earned nothing more.

Speaking of earned, Kenny earned being on the bubble due to his lack of TD production.

Again neither has played good enough to be considered long term.

I already said I was wrong about Rudy's third stringer status. I am sure there will be more that I am wrong about, and more you are wrong about.

Right?
 
A lot of people were surprised on Red-nose’s play. He definitely improved his overall play. Commend him for that.

Kenny hasn’t done much and add in his latest attitude, makes many want to change him out.

I’m for installing the new OC’s scheme, Kenny at the helm proving in a fashionable hurry, either yes or no on his future.

If Rudy comes back, he will NOT get a fair competition but would definitely get the helm upon Kenny’s fail or injury.

Either way, unless a Franchise QB falls to 1.20, it’s a waisted pick to take a QB 1st round. We have to many needs and to few of picks.



Salute the nation
 
Slash I got no beef with you. Just making sure that’s understood. How can Kenny be raw he’s like 28 yrs old. Two yrs in the league and the most pro ready guy available when we took him.
who is top ter qb in this draft.? If nix is no bueno, who should I hope falls. I really only know 2 for sure.
 
slashsteel said:
You can cross Mayfield off the list he is already negotiating with the Bucs for a return. I don't think he makes it to free agency.
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And if guys like Browning, Huntley and Tannehill even have an outside chance/the potential of stealing KP's lunch it means we currently have zero QBs on the roster and you race to the podium to grab a QB in rnd 1 if a good one is available. Grab a C in 2-3 range and that tackle and CB we need in free agency (as you suggested) and this team is ready to do what it does...

go 9-8 or 10-7, but actually have hope and a future with a competent young QB and a rebuilt OL
 
Black & Gold Bleeder said:
Slash I got no beef with you. Just making sure that’s understood. How can Kenny be raw he’s like 28 yrs old. Two yrs in the league and the most pro ready guy available when we took him.
who is top ter QB in this draft.? If nix is no bueno, who should I hope falls. I really only know 2 for sure.
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He is raw from a tenure perspective. In the league perspective. Not really giving him breaks in the meantime he should have to earn the start. This is that third year that is often a make it or break it for players.(in general)

I have no beef with you either. Just debating and conversating. 😉

The only beef I had with someone is finished. Now it is just opinions and Steelers football.👊
 
Fiji Mariner said:
And if guys like Browning, Huntley and Tannehill even have an outside chance/the potential of stealing KP's lunch it means we currently have zero QBs on the roster and you race to the podium to grab a QB in rnd 1 if a good one is available. Grab a C in 2-3 range and that tackle and CB we need in free agency (as you suggested) and this team is ready to do what it does...

go 9-8 or 10-7, but actually have hope and a future with a competent young QB and a rebuilt OL
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First off, only us fans see that Kenny is average at best. Coach Tomlin thinks he is our QB of the future, so NO, we will not replace him unless a FRANCHISE QB falls in place. We may pick na project QB in mid to later rounds, but he will NOT take Kenny's job. Tomlin is to infatuated with his 1st round pick QB.

8-8-1 here we come, Ani-I-over............................


Salute the nation
 
slashsteel said:
He is raw from a tenure perspective. In the league perspective. Not really giving him breaks in the meantime he should have to earn the start. This is that third year that is often a make it or break it for players.(in general)

I have no beef with you either. Just debating and conversating. 😉

The only beef I had with someone is finished. Now it is just opinions and Steelers football.👊
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So, you're all out of steak---------------------

BBQing will require more beef------- or ------- BACON for a substitute.


Salute the nation
 
If they really feel JPJ is a stud center then they should take him at 20. They absolutely should not move up to get him though... he is a center... stay put and draft a Tackle or CB..
 
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