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WTF, maybe we're all just total idiots.

Keeping coach Tomlin is doing so much damage to this once great franchise that it will take YEARS to bail out of it.
I was telling someone today that if they DID fire Captain Cool Shades and hired a whole new staff, under the best circumstances it would be a minimum of three years until they could compete with the likes of the Chiefs, Bills, Eagles, and Lions.
 
Sad really. Watt will never win a playoff game here with us......Tomlin simply refuses to admit his failures and adjust....move on from a schematic failure. If Watt is smart.....he plays out his current contract and moves on after next season. I have never felt such failure here........even during the 80s. Tomlin simply continues to do the same old same old....year in and year out.....but hey. Maybe we can squeeze another Tomlinship or two out of his approach. Maybe three or four. You never know.🥴

Looking at next year’s schedule I could definitely see 7-10 (give or take a game) unless this team has an amazing offseason which addresses the QB, RB, WR, OL, DL and DBs…if Khan/Weidl can Tomlinproof the roster to a point where we win another Tomlinship I see a promotion coming for one or both.

I’ve never predicted less than 9 wins before, but at this point I’m struggling to see where wins 5-7 come from.

Better get to work FO, there’s another Tomlinship out there to be had somehow
 
I'm REALLY starting to dislike Tomlin. I'm seeing a pattern of narcissistic behavior at the expense of keeping his job. The Steelers coaching staff, aside from the OC as one season doesn't a coach make, is absolute **** with exception of Aaron Curry and Grady Brown, two promising young minds...And the Steelers let them both walk? What The Actual ****, Mike!

I'm just going to say it, I pray the day comes when auto-contract extension Mike meets up with Grady Brown, Head coach of who gives a ****, who proceeds to coach circles around that bug eyed platitude spewing conceited tit-stick on a prime-time game at night so we can see the absolute clueless expression on his smug face. Here's a standard for you, Mike: win a goddamn playoff game once in a while! The Steelers used to be a powerhouse, now they're just a punchline. I used to watch games and see a chin on the sidelines and now all I see are b itch t its and a set of overpriced shades. I'm sure when he walks on the field, he has the theme song to Shaft playing in his skull, meanwhile the fan base is preparing for the shafting we're about to get having paid $12 for an unwanted streaming service just to see Mike and his minions curb stomped by a 2-6 joke of a team.

**** me.
 
Sad really. Watt will never win a playoff game here with us......Tomlin simply refuses to admit his failures and adjust....move on from a schematic failure. If Watt is smart.....he plays out his current contract and moves on after next season. I have never felt such failure here........even during the 80s. Tomlin simply continues to do the same old same old....year in and year out.....but hey. Maybe we can squeeze another Tomlinship or two out of his approach. Maybe three or four. You never know.🥴
Unfortunately this is exactly how I feel, it's hard to even get excited about off season moves, the draft, etc because you know what we're getting year in and year out with Mediocre Mike here.
 
Unfortunately this is exactly how I feel, it's hard to even get excited about off season moves, the draft, etc because you know what we're getting year in and year out with Mediocre Mike here.

You’ve gotta really suck as a HC to take the joy, hope and promise of the offseason away. The NFL literally only takes 2 years to turn a tomato can into a contender…unless ya have an owner that doesn’t mind keeping the human hurdle to success in the way of it.
 
i think many people overreact and are too harsh on tomlin, there arent many coaches you can replace him with that are needing a job this year.

That's not how you hire a HC. Tomlin didn't NEED a job when he was hired. He had a job, he was the DC of the Vikings, a job that he only spent a year at. He was brought to Minnesota by Brad Childress, who hired him away from the Buccs when he was their secondary coach. He had the Vikings as the best run defense but the worst pass defense, with an overall ranking of 8th in the league.

Bill Cohwer didn't NEED a job when he was hired, he was the defensive coordinator for the Chiefs, he interviewed for both the Browns and Bengals jobs in 91 before being hired by the Steelers in 92.

There are A LOT of capable assistant coaches in the league that will be successful head coaches, and simply saying that you don't know if he'll be better than Tomlin is not an excuse to NOT make the change.
 
I was telling someone today that if they DID fire Captain Cool Shades and hired a whole new staff, under the best circumstances it would be a minimum of three years until they could compete with the likes of the Chiefs, Bills, Eagles, and Lions.


That’s high hopes, Tomlinized goes deep, and I’d have to hope upon the relief of Tomlin, our ownership let go of Tomlinized as well. Until that happens, we may not get the results needed, and more time will tick.

I love your time frame and am all for starting that clock to tick. Fire Tomlin NOW, see TJ reappear as many players careers would thrive.


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I'm REALLY starting to dislike Tomlin. I'm seeing a pattern of narcissistic behavior at the expense of keeping his job. The Steelers coaching staff, aside from the OC as one season doesn't a coach make, is absolute **** with exception of Aaron Curry and Grady Brown, two promising young minds...And the Steelers let them both walk? What The Actual ****, Mike!

I'm just going to say it, I pray the day comes when auto-contract extension Mike meets up with Grady Brown, Head coach of who gives a ****, who proceeds to coach circles around that bug eyed platitude spewing conceited tit-stick on a prime-time game at night so we can see the absolute clueless expression on his smug face. Here's a standard for you, Mike: win a goddamn playoff game once in a while! The Steelers used to be a powerhouse, now they're just a punchline. I used to watch games and see a chin on the sidelines and now all I see are b itch t its and a set of overpriced shades. I'm sure when he walks on the field, he has the theme song to Shaft playing in his skull, meanwhile the fan base is preparing for the shafting we're about to get having paid $12 for an unwanted streaming service just to see Mike and his minions curb stomped by a 2-6 joke of a team.

**** me.


WhoAley ****, I don’t have to ask how you really feel as this is what many a many of us truly feel as well.

Well said Badcat, thank you SIR.


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We we a top 5 team with Ben in his prime. We just need a franchise HOF qb in his prime. That is all


Mahomes, is on his way…………………..


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I believe Meyer has another year on his contract.

DK Daily Shot had a segment on that exact thing this morning. Said he signed a 1yr contract (i didn’t catch when).

In the grand scheme of things it’s very little pay. + or - of $300,000.00 and dealing with players making 10 X + more and being worried about cutting him early. His time here is de-valuing they players in both playability and monetary investment.

My take

Keeping coach Tomlin is doing so much damage to this once great franchise that it will take YEARS to bail out of it.

Winning tradition isn’t just something you can say and hope for, it is something that you BEAT into your opponents. Currently most teams want the Steelers in the 1st round of the playoffs……. It’s like a bye week. TJ Watt, a once feared player is now near harmless and easy to scheme out. George Pickens is not feared, QBs not feared, Run game no fear, you get my drift.

Flores may not have been the best HC candidate, but he sure as hellA has been the biggest mistake in letting him go over keeping Tomlin.


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The initial mistake was keeping Terrible Austin and making him DC instead of Flores.
 
I don't think Austin is terrible, but I would have kept Flores over him. We were 4th best in tackling percentage this year despite many feelings otherwise.
Couldn't disagree more.
He has a proven track record of failure in Detroit and Cincinnati.
That paired with Tomlin is a recipe for insanity and frustration.
 
Keep in mind, they probably won't do anything major with the OL. They lost 3 starters at the beginning of the season. Fautana will be back at RT. Frazier is at C. McCormick played well for most of the season (was a monster early on) until he hit the rookie wall. He's at RG. Seomalu is at LG and Jones will slide back to his natural position at LT. They are only drafting or signing depth pieces. Even there, Herbig should be back as well.

The focus has to be on the DL first and foremost. If they are going to ignore what has been happening the past few seasons and only play 2 DL most of the time, then they need 2 very good players there. Right now, they have Cam who Father Time could catch up with at any moment. They need to use their first pick on the DL unless there is a superstar WR there. They need 2 DL in the first 4 picks and one needs to be in the 1st or 2nd. CB and S (either one or both) are behind the DL, WR, and RB if they don't resign Najee. Either way, I can see them taking a RB and even a QB with one of their later picks.
 
Couldn't disagree more.
He has a proven track record of failure in Detroit and Cincinnati.
That paired with Tomlin is a recipe for insanity and frustration.
I wouldn't say he is great but had the offense consistently contributed and scored he would be looked at in a much different light. We have seen far less of WR's matched up with LB's and when they are we are better able to cover them. He is better than he was in previous stops. But like I said I would take Flores over him if it was my choice. I just think he gets a bit more hate than warranted.
 
I was telling someone today that if they DID fire Captain Cool Shades and hired a whole new staff, under the best circumstances it would be a minimum of three years until they could compete with the likes of the Chiefs, Bills, Eagles, and Lions.
I don't know, vunderkin Mike Tomlin won his first year.
 
Keep in mind, they probably won't do anything major with the OL. They lost 3 starters at the beginning of the season. Fautana will be back at RT. Frazier is at C. McCormick played well for most of the season (was a monster early on) until he hit the rookie wall. He's at RG. Seomalu is at LG and Jones will slide back to his natural position at LT. They are only drafting or signing depth pieces. Even there, Herbig should be back as well.

The focus has to be on the DL first and foremost. If they are going to ignore what has been happening the past few seasons and only play 2 DL most of the time, then they need 2 very good players there. Right now, they have Cam who Father Time could catch up with at any moment. They need to use their first pick on the DL unless there is a superstar WR there. They need 2 DL in the first 4 picks and one needs to be in the 1st or 2nd. CB and S (either one or both) are behind the DL, WR, and RB if they don't resign Najee. Either way, I can see them taking a RB and even a QB with one of their later picks.

With RBs being a dime a dozen I could see our first 4 picks being 1st DL, 2nd-3rd WR and QB, 4th either DB and then get your RB in the 5th or the DL double dip there. 7th round is just BPA flyers.

Until this team has a QB solution that position will be a high priority in every draft and while this draft lacks top end QBs there are a handful of guys that could go in the 2-4 range and turn out to be mid grade starters or maybe better if the right guy is in the right system (we all know Pittsburgh is NOT the right system for any QB-too bad Art doesn’t)
 
Couldn't disagree more.
He has a proven track record of failure in Detroit and Cincinnati.
That paired with Tomlin is a recipe for insanity and frustration.
Tomlinized
 
I don't know, vunderkin Mike Tomlin won his first year.
That was with the team and staff he inherited though.
 
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