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Yep. We should’ve started Mason 2 weeks ago.

The better of the 3
Gildong Sack said:
When we face someone like the Ravens and they take away Pickens and the deep ball(Mason's only strength) and the line doesn't block as well you will remember quickly who Mason is...LOL...yesterday was fun and that's it. Nothing against they guy, but he is what he is.
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It’s gonna be hard to put that splashy, weighty pudding back in the box ain’t it Mike? Reindeer flavored pudding…mmm…yum
 
What I liked about Mason the most on Saturday was his ability to actually read the defensive and know where every player was going to be. He quickly looked at this first read, but then knew exactly where all the others should be in order to go through progression and delivered the ball fairly quickly. Yes, the Bengals had very little by the way of a pass rush, but Turdbisky would have thrown 2 interceptions to ghost WR's because he thought they would be at x when they were supposed to be at y. Pickett would have been flushed from the pocket numerous times because his internal clock revs to the red line after 2 seconds.
 
The Steeler coaches have done a very poor job this season in getting their best QB ready for games.

Hopefully Rudy can continue his performance next game, but Steeler fans cannot even be sure that he will start with an injured Kenny and over-rated/over-paid Mitch somehow in the mix.

The coaching staff needs a huge reset; that is job 1.
 
johngaenzler said:
Lots of idiots here laughed when some of us wanted Mason to start over Mitch. Feel free to own up…
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Seems to me that people liked the signing of Mitch in 2022 despite Mason still being available. Then the Steelers drafted hometown hero Kenny and Mitch quickly turned into every yinzers *******. Mason had one good game and he should start at least until the Steelers are eliminated from the playoffs, but don’t get ahead of yourself on just how good Mason is vs. Mitch.
 
Fiji Mariner said:
Mason played like an ok QB that actually has a set of stones and was auditioning to keep his career alive. It was good to watch the way he was playing with his “house money” he stumbled into.

Mitch gave what he always has, no stones and a weak skill set.

Please please please put T Biscuit out to pasture already
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Mitch has a great skill set, that’s why he was #2 overall draft pick. His downfall is his fundamentals and throwing off his back foot and trying to force too many throws when there’s no need to do so.
 
I don't know if this was already covered, it it has I apologize. But do you all remember the "fake" QB competition that was supposedly held at preseason last year? It was NEVER a legit "competition" at all. Bill Cowher even said there was no way to have a legit 3-person QB competition to begin with, and it sure as hell wasn't. Hell, it was never even a 2-man competition; the starting QB spot was given to Trubisky all along and it was obvious.

Then, when Mitch was fail, it automatically went to Kenny; there was never a thought that Mason could be the legitimate best option at QB; it seemed to never have been a consideration. And why not? Mason performed at least as well as the other 2 QBs, but it was never a legit competition to begin with, nor was it this year. And with Kenny's China doll history (yes, he is fragile) and Mitch's history of sucking his entire career (Sorry Art, he's just barely a "winning QB" as you like to expound upon, 31-26), it should come as no surprise that Mason had to play. And he played way better than the other 2 QBs who, for no apparent reason, have been valued much higher.

I remember seeing him on talk shows pre-season of last year, before it was known that he was blackballed for the 2022 season. He would answer questions as if he was really a consideration of becoming that Starter in Pgh, little did he know he had no chance of getting that gig, NONE, It was pre-decided that Mitch was to be the starter before any football was played. It was probably a Rooney mandate; Steelers only play rookies when they are forced to, pretty much, especially early. It's part of "the Steeler way." And after forking out so much $ for Mitch, it was his job, period, even though the "fantasy," bull s--- charade was carried out, as if there was some kind of real QB competition taking place. There never was.

So now, after all that bull sh-- was commensed, they were reduced to having put Mason in there, and after all of that, guess what? He has proven to be better than the 2 QBs artificially held above him. And for what reason? Because that was what the old man wanted. Period.

I am not a huge fan of Rudolph. He sure has his flaws. But as of now, he's the best QB we have on the roster, and he proved it. Mitch is downright horrible. We have ALL seen that. It was not an illusion. And Kenny, make all the excuses you want, but up until now, he's been far below average. It's a fact. He's 28th is most every measuring metric used. And it's his 2nd year, no rookie excuses. He locks onto one receiver every passing play and that is THE mark of a crappy NFL QB; the anti-Montana if you will. And once he has decided who to throw to he is off target way too often. He's just o an accurate thrower, period. Kenny stinks. On top of those two foibles, he's fragile.

I am not saying Mason should be our future starting QB, but maybe our future backup. I don't think our legit future starter is on the roaster. But Rooney isn't ready to admit that yet, that's far too knee-jerk speed for Art. We will probably have to suffer for another season with Kenny staring down his primary receiver from the snap until he is knocked out of the game.
 
Backfoot Mitch. The nickname originated on this board.
 
Greg Lloyd said:
I am not saying Mason should be our future starting QB, but maybe our future backup. I don't think our legit future starter is on the roaster.
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I've got no problem with that and I thought he looked good last game. One thing I like about him is there doesn't seem to be any drama - he just does his job. I say let him start the next 2 and see what happens. Maybe the guy has worked hard to try and become the starter, and I do like his arm. Only one way to find out....

Also many here say to fix the trenches before focusing on a new QB and that's hard to argue with.

 
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Greg Lloyd said:
I don't know if this was already covered, it it has I apologize. But do you all remember the "fake" QB competition that was supposedly held at preseason last year? It was NEVER a legit "competition" at all. Bill Cowher even said there was no way to have a legit 3-person QB competition to begin with, and it sure as hell wasn't. Hell, it was never even a 2-man competition; the starting QB spot was given to Trubisky all along and it was obvious.

Then, when Mitch was fail, it automatically went to Kenny; there was never a thought that Mason could be the legitimate best option at QB; it seemed to never have been a consideration. And why not? Mason performed at least as well as the other 2 QBs, but it was never a legit competition to begin with, nor was it this year. And with Kenny's China doll history (yes, he is fragile) and Mitch's history of sucking his entire career (Sorry Art, he's just barely a "winning QB" as you like to expound upon, 31-26), it should come as no surprise that Mason had to play. And he played way better than the other 2 QBs who, for no apparent reason, have been valued much higher.

I remember seeing him on talk shows pre-season of last year, before it was known that he was blackballed for the 2022 season. He would answer questions as if he was really a consideration of becoming that Starter in Pgh, little did he know he had no chance of getting that gig, NONE, It was pre-decided that Mitch was to be the starter before any football was played. It was probably a Rooney mandate; Steelers only play rookies when they are forced to, pretty much, especially early. It's part of "the Steeler way." And after forking out so much $ for Mitch, it was his job, period, even though the "fantasy," bull s--- charade was carried out, as if there was some kind of real QB competition taking place. There never was.

So now, after all that bull sh-- was commensed, they were reduced to having put Mason in there, and after all of that, guess what? He has proven to be better than the 2 QBs artificially held above him. And for what reason? Because that was what the old man wanted. Period.

I am not a huge fan of Rudolph. He sure has his flaws. But as of now, he's the best QB we have on the roster, and he proved it. Mitch is downright horrible. We have ALL seen that. It was not an illusion. And Kenny, make all the excuses you want, but up until now, he's been far below average. It's a fact. He's 28th is most every measuring metric used. And it's his 2nd year, no rookie excuses. He locks onto one receiver every passing play and that is THE mark of a crappy NFL QB; the anti-Montana if you will. And once he has decided who to throw to he is off target way too often. He's just o an accurate thrower, period. Kenny stinks. On top of those two foibles, he's fragile.

I am not saying Mason should be our future starting QB, but maybe our future backup. I don't think our legit future starter is on the roaster. But Rooney isn't ready to admit that yet, that's far too knee-jerk speed for Art. We will probably have to suffer for another season with Kenny staring down his primary receiver from the snap until he is knocked out of the game.
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**** I don’t think I could have said it better myself.

I said it before I would not have looked for my future QB in 2022. At least not forcing a second day QB into a first round pick. Let the draft come to you. I wasn’t upset at signing a vet like Mitch because I thought a healthy and legitimate competition at QB would be the best. Let the cream rise to the top. But even though the competition wasn’t a run away it seemed pretty clear Mason had won. But as you stated the Steelers did him dirty. Since then he’s been nothing but a good teammate. He helps Mitch and Kenny every chance he has. He doesn’t throw them or the coaching under the bus. No reason to call him names and to hate him. And even now when he comes through for Tomlin and Art he’s nothing but humble.

I think he deserves the next game minimum. If he has a good game and win and are still in the playoff race he gets the season finale. After the season we can see if we can dump Mitch and use the money to keep Mason. Give him a fair shot at winning the starting job next year. Maybe we draft a QB but again it’s a fair competition. None of this bs get a job handed to you.
 
😅 Steelers did nobody dirty.

🙄

If Mason gets a chance to start next season it won't be with the Steelers.

Christmas will not roadblock agenda.

As far as this season Rudy has earned a start over Mitch.

I think we will see Kenny back under center Sunday. Just depends on if he is 100 percent healthy. Which he shouldn't see the field if he isn't.
 
jitter77 said:
There is no doubt Mason played well, but a lot goes into it. I see things like Mason stood in the pocket, the ball was on time, etc etc.....All of this is true, but Mason was not under the instant / constant pressure in this game as our other QBs have faced. Along those lines just remember Pickett and crew put up 400 on these Bengals. Mason also missed 3x on what is supposed to be his specialty the deep balls, but he did connect on 2. Most importantly he didnt turn the ball over and the defense did their part today. Mason did well today just need to keep it in perspective that the Bengals defense is poor and we actually put up more yrds last game just did not finish off drives. Pickett only threw for 12 yrds less and the team avg about half yard less per play. Bottom line is if you look at the stats for the 2 Bengals games they are very similar. If Pickett is not 100% but still able to play I would start Mason and have a short leash. If Pickett is 100% and ready to go then I would start him, but he would also be on a short leash.
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Bottom line
Rudolph in 1 start eclipsed anything kenny has done in almost 2 seasons.
Made pickens better, made the whole offense look better than it has since ben.
 
Hopefully Mason can build upon this week. Forward seas he sails.
Definitely agree with post #70
 
Troglodyte said:
Mitch has a great skill set, that’s why he was #2 overall draft pick. His downfall is his fundamentals and throwing off his back foot and trying to force too many throws when there’s no need to do so.
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“Great skill set” not imo

I value accuracy, anticipation, ability to read a field/D, leadership and being clutch

I’d say he may score an above average in 1 of those areas

What are the “great skills” he possesses?

Being drafted 2 don’t mean shut, and means even less if the Bears are the ones drafting and less yet if that player is a QB
 
Fiji Mariner said:
“Great skill set” not imo

I value accuracy, anticipation, ability to read a field/D, leadership and being clutch

I’d say he may score an above average in 1 of those areas

What are the “great skills” he possesses?

Being drafted 2 don’t mean shut, and means even less if the Bears are the ones drafting and less yet if that player is a QB
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Mitch was a product of one good college statistical year. The Steelers rolled the dice on him thinking they might be able to get more out of him than the Bears. Just didn't work out.
 
slashsteel said:
Mitch was a product of one good college statistical year. The Steelers rolled the dice on him thinking they might be able to get more out of him than the Bears. Just didn't work out.
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If I'm not mistaken wasn't that the case also with Kenny? His senior year.
 
Confluence said:
The Steeler coaches have done a very poor job this season in getting their best QB ready for games.

Hopefully Rudy can continue his performance next game, but Steeler fans cannot even be sure that he will start with an injured Kenny and over-rated/over-paid Mitch somehow in the mix.

The coaching staff needs a huge reset; that is job 1.
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That's been job one for a long time.
 
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