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Report: Aaron Rodgers Is At Steelers Facility On Friday

Ron Burgundy said:
Yes but hiring a minority is a better look when the rule is named after your family.
As far as I know, Grimm never coached again in the NFL after leaving the Steelers and it was strongly rumored at the time that he had a drinking problem, so I’m with you there.
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Actually, he ended up with the Cardinals along with Wiz. I don't think either of them coached since that gig.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
Marty is the only eligible head coach with 200 wins who is not in the HOF, due to his lack of playoff success.
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But Tomlin has that lucky SB win way back in year 2 to go with his non-losing season prowess, of course, so his bust is already being prepared in Canton.
 
ZonaBurgh said:
Actually, he ended up with the Cardinals along with Wiz. I don't think either of them coached since that gig.
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I think Grimm was out of football in 2 years. Steelers want coaches for 20 years at a time.

It's only been 2 hires since Noll, but when Tomlin does leave I think we should be putting money on the young guy we've never heard of. And if he gets a reference letter from a former Steeler (like Tomlin did from Dungy), it's probably a done deal.
 
Hypocycloids said:
Noll was never credited for being amazing, nor did he have to be. Nolls players were amazing,
If Noll could coach the group we have now to a Super Bowl he'd be amazing.
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Which is unfortunate because Noll was a great teacher who mentored under some of the greatest coaches in the game.
 
NorthernBlitz said:
I think Noll was a great coach for that era.

I agree with you if your arguments are (1) no one could have coached our post-Ben injury teams to a SB and (2) Noll would likely not be an above average coach in the UFA era where you need players to buy in and you can't amass as much talent as those 70s teams had under the cap.
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I do too.
Now if he had coached the mediocre 80’s teams to Super Bowls that would have been amazing!

I can concur with the rest of your points.
 
Gildong Sack said:
The Vikings do not want him and he knows it...he does not want to go to the train wreck Giants....why would he spend 6 hours here if his only other choice is to retire?
I think all the signs point to him signing.
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Sorry Florio...I brought this up on Friday when he visited. So, Florio regurgitates my theory that asks why would he spend that much time here unless he's going to sign? The Vikings rejected him, and if he was going to retire...then why come here?

That's not the interesting part of this video though. The intriguing part is Florio mentioning that McAfee is doing some big show at PPG arena on April 12th. He thinks Rodgers will then make his entrance/announcement that he is joining the Steelers...WWE style. It's at around the 4 minute mark.

 
Fiji Mariner said:
He needed every bit of an end zone to end zone pick 6 by a LB too.

Takes a ton of absolute Magic to win a SB with Mike
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Worth remembering that if we're not counting DTDs, then we won the GB SB?

I think a lot of people forget that Ben threw a TD for the other team in that game. Because we all have Mendenhall to "hate".
 
Gildong Sack said:
Sorry Florio...I brought this up on Friday when he visited. So, Florio regurgitates my theory that asks why would he spend that much time here unless he's going to sign? The Vikings rejected him, and if he was going to retire...then why come here?

That's not the interesting part of this video though. The intriguing part is Florio mentioning that McAfee is doing some big show at PPG arena on April 12th. He thinks Rodgers will then make his entrance/announcement that he is joining the Steelers...WWE style. It's at around the 4 minute mark.

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I think the "good" news here is that it sounds to me like we're playing hardball / holding the line.

So I don't think (or maybe it's just hope?) the contract is going to be stupid.

It will all be about the structure. So I'm going to try not to over-react when we only hear what the AAV is.
 
NorthernBlitz said:
Worth remembering that if we're not counting DTDs, then we won the GB SB?

I think a lot of people forget that Ben threw a TD for the other team in that game. Because we all have Mendenhall to "hate".
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Here we go again...And people forget that Kemo was bullrushed right into Ben as he threw that ball. It's not like Ben just missed...
 
topseed said:
But Tomlin has that lucky SB win way back in year 2 to go with his non-losing season prowess, of course, so his bust is already being prepared in Canton.
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We're getting to where every coach who won a SB will get into the HOF.
 
insaniti said:
Here we go again...And people forget that Kemo was bullrushed right into Ben as he threw that ball. It's not like Ben just missed...
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The point of my post was that if the SB win against ARI doesn't count because we returned a pick for a DTD, then the same logic says we should count the GB loss as a win.

Re: The DTD.

Yep. It's a team sport (although I think everyone would agree on what the most important part of a team is).

But Ben decided to throw the ball. This is just who he was. It's the reason we got to watch the TD to Holmes. Not sure any other QB that ball in that situation. At least guys that were playing at the time...Favre throws it too IMO.

It was Ben's greatest strength. And his greatest weakness.

I wonder how many QBs in NFL history gave up as many DTDs in the playoffs as Ben did though? It can't be many.

Because (1) he probably has more playoff games than most QBs and (2) he took way more risks than other QBs. His INT% in the playoffs is not good compared to his peers (QBs that will get into...or at least be strongly considered for HoF in the same time frame).

It's what made him insanely fun to watch though. Because no one could pull a rabbit out of a hat like Ben. And you knew the game was never over when he was under center. He just had the heart of a lion.

I see the board doesn't like links to external sites. Does that include stat sites like PFR?
 
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Ron Burgundy said:
We're getting to where every coach who won a SB will get into the HOF.
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Do you think Cowher should be in the HoF?

Personally, I don't.

I think he was a very good coach.

But I think the bar for non-players should be very high.

I don't think Tomlin should go in either (if his career ended today).
 
NorthernBlitz said:
Yep. It's a team sport (although I think everyone would agree on what the most important part of a team is).

The point of my post was that if the SB win against ARI doesn't count because we returned a pick for a DTD, then the same logic says we should count the GB loss as a win.
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That wasn't the point of the post that you quoted tho. The point of the post was that it took two of the greatest individual plays in Super Bowl history for Tomlin to get his win. Not that it didn't count. We didn't go into that game with this gameplan and kick the **** out of them, we didn't dominate on either side of the ball. It was a HOF QB making the perfect throw in crunch time, and a LB that saw something when studying film and reacted to it when he saw it on the field.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
We're getting to where every coach who won a SB will get into the HOF.
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When Bill got into the HOF they might as well have cast Tomlin's bust at the same time. Hopefully wearing the coolest of aviator shades. They both won a SB lost another and won a whole lot of games. They will never look at he subtle nuances of the differences of the two setups Bill largely dealing with shoestring budgets and constant player turnover till maybe the last four-five years. And then you have the way the media polishesTomlin's knob. He's in. And as much as I want him gone he is a Steeler. I will be happy for him.
 
NorthernBlitz said:
Do you think Cowher should be in the HoF?

Personally, I don't.

I think he was a very good coach.

But I think the bar for non-players should be very high.

I don't think Tomlin should go in either (if his career ended today).
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Cowher trusted his assistants and did more with less.

Bill was 7-8 without Ben in the playoffs, Tomlin 8-9 WITH Ben. That stat speaks volumes.
 
WindyCitySteel said:
Cowher trusted his assistants and did more with less.

Bill was 7-8 without Ben in the playoffs, Tomlin 8-9 WITH Ben. That stat speaks volumes.
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Yep. Tomlin did better trusting his coordinators earlier in his career too. I think he's not as good at this now with Austin at DC. I think it was better when there was the tension between rush and coverage when Butler was our DC.

I honestly think that's the reason that the two coaches we've singed since Noll were unknown guys. So we could put good coordinators around them and they'd listen. Instead of the current fad of "guru" coaches that I think read their press clippings too much. And maybe Tomlin's grown into one of those guys too. Which is bad.

Both of these guys needed very good coordinators...even on the side of the ball they were better at. Dick LeBeau's been the DC for every SB trip we made since Noll.

I think we need a better DC than Austin. I was glad that we went back to an outside hire with Smith. And even though our offense was still not great last year, we made a pretty significant improvement in PPG. Maybe being right around average isn't a ton to write home about. But after years and years of saying "it can't get any worse re: ppg" only to see it go lower, I think it's pretty encouraging.

I think we both would have rather that we could have kept Flores as DC. But it wasn't in the cards. Frankly, I think it's pretty amazing that Tomlin was able to convince the boss to hire him when Flores was actively suing Rooney's in-laws.
 
insaniti said:
That wasn't the point of the post that you quoted tho. The point of the post was that it took two of the greatest individual plays in Super Bowl history for Tomlin to get his win. Not that it didn't count. We didn't go into that game with this gameplan and kick the **** out of them, we didn't dominate on either side of the ball. It was a HOF QB making the perfect throw in crunch time, and a LB that saw something when studying film and reacted to it when he saw it on the field.
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Yep.

Players >>> Coaches.

Especially HoF QBs.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
We're getting to where every coach who won a SB will get into the HOF.
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Similar to QBs with two SB wins, except Jim Plunket……………….


Salute the nation
 
Im not going to minimize Tomlin's part in that SB anymore then how ****** Ben and the Steelers played vs. The Seahawks to win that championship. Both teams were heavy heavy favorites and played down and careful. But both teams played great in the playoffs. Beating Manning and winning in Denver for Bill. One of the most exciting wins I will ever remember on the Polamalu pick six vs. Rats. You don't have to diminish Tomlin’s SB to believe its well past time to move on.
 
NorthernBlitz said:
Worth remembering that if we're not counting DTDs, then we won the GB SB?

I think a lot of people forget that Ben threw a TD for the other team in that game. Because we all have Mendenhall to "hate".
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Why on earth would we not count TDs that happened?

I don’t think too many of the regular posters here forgot that (I’d wager less than 5%- maybe the guy that doesn’t watch the games whose name
I will not speak forgot that). Maybe on non Steeler social media sites they forget stuff like that…I’d wager almost everyone here is acutely aware of that.

Was it Spin-then-fall’s fault Whiff Johnson was on the team?
 
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