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The Coronavirus thread

You once again flip to an outlier. If masking and preventive measures work, simply explain why the 36 states with these measures by and large lead the country in cases, deaths, etc.

Just focus on NJ, NY, MA and RI if you want. They lead the nation in deaths/1Million population. They have some of the most stringent preventive measures.

If they worked, well...they would work right?
You couldn’t have made it any easier for me, Tim. I think you’ve forgotten more than you remember about the early days of the pandemic.

Contrary to your assertion, the high death rates in those states have everything in common with SD’s death rate - A LACK OF MASK MANDATES AND RESTRICTIONS. NY, NJ and Mass were all hit VERY EARLY in the pandemic, BEFORE MASK MANDATES AND RESTRICTIONS. The Biogen Conference in late February 2020 in Boston was one of the earliest known superspreader events. Masks weren’t mandated in NY until mid April. In early March, they were being advised to “wash your hands thoroughly, don’t touch your face” while Covid was spreading through the air in crowded Metro trains. They didn’t know any better or soon enough, SD certainly did.
 
You couldn’t have made it any easier for me, Tim. I think you’ve forgotten more than you remember about the early days of the pandemic.

Contrary to your assertion, the high death rates in those states have everything in common with SD’s death rate - A LACK OF MASK MANDATES AND RESTRICTIONS. NY, NJ and Mass were all hit VERY EARLY in the pandemic, BEFORE MASK MANDATES AND RESTRICTIONS. The Biogen Conference in late February 2020 in Boston was one of the earliest known superspreader events. Masks weren’t mandated in NY until mid April. In early March, they were being advised to “wash your hands thoroughly, don’t touch your face” while Covid was spreading through the air in crowded Metro trains. They didn’t know any better or soon enough, SD certainly did.
you're also forgetting and continue to ignore the impressive number of deaths that arose from nursing homes thanks to Cuomo and DeBlasio.
we'll continue to remind you.
 
you're also forgetting and continue to ignore the impressive number of deaths that arose from nursing homes thanks to Cuomo and DeBlasio.
we'll continue to remind you.

According to Flog, the only people/entities who did well in the Chinese flu outbreak were the Chinese and Governor Cuomo. He has offered literally not one word - not a syllable - critical of either. He laps up CCP talking points and regurgitates them here.
 
You couldn’t have made it any easier for me, Tim. I think you’ve forgotten more than you remember about the early days of the pandemic.

Contrary to your assertion, the high death rates in those states have everything in common with SD’s death rate - A LACK OF MASK MANDATES AND RESTRICTIONS. NY, NJ and Mass were all hit VERY EARLY in the pandemic, BEFORE MASK MANDATES AND RESTRICTIONS. The Biogen Conference in late February 2020 in Boston was one of the earliest known superspreader events. Masks weren’t mandated in NY until mid April. In early March, they were being advised to “wash your hands thoroughly, don’t touch your face” while Covid was spreading through the air in crowded Metro trains. They didn’t know any better or soon enough, SD certainly did.

It's almost like you're paid to make up stupid ****. Tearing this one apart brings me much glee. You have no idea.

This may be your most blatant lie ever. You aren't JUST wrong, it clearly shows you have LITERALLY NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IN THE LEAST.

You don't research. In fact, I'm not sure where you get the ideas that come out of your tiny little head. But I know this, as Steeltime says you're a lying liar lying. People like you and Tibs are dangerous. You just spout **** that isn't true.

Let's look at your claim - NY/NJ/MA were all hit VERY early BEFORE mask mandates and restrictions.... :ROFLMAO: :LOL: :ROFLMAO: :LOL: :ROFLMAO: Yeah, except....yer as wrong as you've ever been. Don't let these facts keep you from coming back for more *** kickings will you?

The state of New York:
Mask mandate implemented April 20
Stay at home order implemented March 20

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On New York, you are EMPHATICALLY WRONG. Stay at home orders were issued VERY early on March 20 at the utter beginning and mask mandates one month later.

The state of New Jersey:
Mask mandate implemented April 10 <------New Jersey was the VERY FIRST state to implement a mask mandate!
Stay at home order implemented March 21

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New Jersey was nearly identical to New York, except they implemented a mask mandate even before New York did. You are wrong...again.

The state of Massachusetts:
Mask mandate implemented May 6, 2020
Stay at home order implemented April 7, 2020

COVID hit MA later than it did NY and NJ - in early April - while NY and NJ got initially hit in early March.

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You lie. You're wrong. You spread such bullshit you should be banned, to be honest. You have NO CLUE what you speak of.

These states were EARLY REACTORS to the virus. They implemented their mask mandates and stay at home orders EARLY, especially the lockdowns. THEN they got slammed. The data shows it. Research shows what days they closed down.

Now I return you bloodied and beaten to your next spin attempt. Wait, lemme guess....you're gonna argue population density matters before simultaneously pointing out how rural counties are the hardest hit...or some other epic stupid dumb *** **** again.

Out. Make me sweat next time ok?
 
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It's almost like you're paid to make up stupid ****. Tearing this one apart brings me much glee. You have no idea.

This may be your most blatant lie ever. You aren't JUST wrong, it clearly shows you have LITERALLY NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IN THE LEAST.

You don't research. In fact, I'm not sure where you get the ideas that come out of your tiny little head. But I know this, as Steeltime says you're a lying liar lying. People like you and Tibs are dangerous. You just spout **** that isn't true.

Let's look at your claim - NY/NJ/MA were all hit VERY early BEFORE mask mandates and restrictions.... :ROFLMAO: :LOL: :ROFLMAO: :LOL: :ROFLMAO: Yeah, except....yer as wrong as you've ever been. Don't let these facts keep you from coming back for more *** kickings will you?

The state of New York:
Mask mandate implemented April 20
Stay at home order implemented March 20

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On New York, you are EMPHATICALLY WRONG. Stay at home orders were issued VERY early on March 20 at the utter beginning and mask mandates one month later.

The state of New Jersey:
Mask mandate implemented April 10 <------New Jersey was the VERY FIRST state to implement a mask mandate!
Stay at home order implemented March 21

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New Jersey was nearly identical to New York, except they implemented a mask mandate even before New York did. You are wrong...again.

The state of Massachusetts:
Mask mandate implemented May 6, 2020
Stay at home order implemented April 7, 2020

COVID hit MA later than it did NY and NJ - in early April - while NY and NJ got initially hit in early March.

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You lie. You're wrong. You spread such bullshit you should be banned, to be honest. You have NO CLUE what you speak of.

These states were EARLY REACTORS to the virus. They implemented their mask mandates and stay at home orders EARLY, especially the lockdowns. THEN they got slammed. The data shows it. Research shows what days they closed down.

Now I return you bloodied and beaten to your next spin attempt. Wait, lemme guess....you're gonna argue population density matters before simultaneously pointing out how rural counties are the hardest hit...or some other epic stupid dumb *** **** again.

Out. Make me sweat next time ok?
You can’t be that simple. You can be that disingenuous.

The progression goes: cases, hospitalizations, deaths. Restrictions and mask mandates don’t work immediately. It’s not as if they’re implemented and new cases immediately cease and the hospitalized can be discharged. Your graphs show the restrictions and mask mandates did work, just not immediately.

Yes, population density does matter.
ITS
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CONTAGIOUS
DISEASE
 
Floggy be say: "NY, NJ and Mass were all hit VERY EARLY in the pandemic, BEFORE MASK MANDATES AND RESTRICTIONS."

Here are the dates each state implemented mask mandates....if they did.

StateMask mandate start date
New JerseyApril 10, 2020
MarylandApril 15, 2020
New YorkApril 15, 2020
HawaiiApril 17, 2020
ConnecticutApril 20, 2020
MichiganApril 24, 2020
MaineApril 30, 2020
DelawareMay 1, 2020
IllinoisMay 1, 2020
MassachusettsMay 6, 2020
Rhode IslandMay 8, 2020
MississippiMay 12, 2020
New MexicoMay 16, 2020
VirginiaMay 30, 2020
WashingtonJune 8, 2020
CaliforniaJune 18, 2020
ColoradoJune 24, 2020
NevadaJune 26, 2020
North CarolinaJune 26, 2020
OregonJuly 1, 2020
PennsylvaniaJuly 1, 2020
KansasJuly 3, 2020
TexasJuly 3, 2020
West VirginiaJuly 6, 2020
KentuckyJuly 10, 2020
LouisianaJuly 13, 2020
MontanaJuly 15, 2020
AlabamaJuly 16, 2020
ArkansasJuly 20, 2020
OhioJuly 23, 2020
MinnesotaJuly 25, 2020
IndianaJuly 27, 2020
VermontAugust 1, 2020
WisconsinAugust 1, 2020
UtahNovember 9, 2020
North DakotaNovember 13, 2020
IowaNovember 17, 2020
New HampshireNovember 20, 2020
WyomingDecember 9, 2020
AlaskaN/A
ArizonaN/A
FloridaN/A
GeorgiaN/A
IdahoN/A
MissouriN/A
NebraskaN/A
OklahomaN/A
South CarolinaN/A
South DakotaN/A
TennesseeN/A
 
Here are the dates each state issued a Stay At Home Order...if they did.

State/territoryStay At Home Ordered
CaliforniaMarch 19, 2020
IllinoisMarch 21, 2020
New JerseyMarch 21, 2020
New YorkMarch 22, 2020
ConnecticutMarch 23, 2020
LouisianaMarch 24, 2020
DelawareMarch 24, 2020
MassachusettsMarch 24, 2020
OhioMarch 25, 2020
MichiganMarch 25, 2020
HawaiiMarch 25, 2020
WisconsinMarch 25, 2020
OregonMarch 26, 2020
New MexicoMarch 26, 2020
IdahoMarch 26, 2020
ColoradoMarch 26, 2020
KentuckyMarch 26, 2020
WashingtonMarch 27, 2020
IndianaMarch 27, 2020
MinnesotaMarch 27, 2020
New HampshireMarch 27, 2020
West VirginiaMarch 28, 2020
VermontMarch 28, 2020
AlaskaMarch 28, 2020
MontanaMarch 29, 2020
Rhode IslandMarch 30, 2020
District of ColumbiaMarch 30, 2020
KansasMarch 31, 2020
ArizonaMarch 31, 2020
MarylandApril 1, 2020
NevadaApril 1, 2020
PennsylvaniaApril 1, 2020
North CarolinaApril 2, 2020
MaineApril 2, 2020
OklahomaApril 2, 2020
VirginiaApril 3, 2020
TennesseeApril 3, 2020
FloridaApril 3, 2020
TexasApril 4, 2020
GeorgiaApril 4, 2020
AlabamaApril 4, 2020
MississippiApril 5, 2020
MissouriApril 6, 2020
South CarolinaApril 7, 2020
ArkansasNo
IowaNo
NebraskaNo
North DakotaNo
South DakotaRegional
UtahRegional
WyomingRegional

Do us a favor & bookmark these posts, so the next time you dream up an unsubstantiated post, you can check yaself first and make sure you don't step in it so stupidly again.
 
You can’t be that simple. You can be that disingenuous.

The progression goes: cases, hospitalizations, deaths. Restrictions and mask mandates don’t work immediately. It’s not as if they’re implemented and new cases immediately cease and the hospitalized can be discharged. Your graphs show the restrictions and mask mandates did work, just not immediately.

Yes, population density does matter.
ITS
A
CONTAGIOUS
DISEASE

Let's be clear, first: You said....let me repeat....NY, NJ and Mass were all hit VERY EARLY in the pandemic, BEFORE MASK MANDATES AND RESTRICTIONS.

What you said is emphatically, undeniably, *** wrong. They were at the tops in early responders and reactors. They reacted immediately. Stay at Home orders were implemented BEFORE any of their virus curves rose (cases or deaths) and mask mandates were implemented in the rise of cases, as I SHOWED you above. You're wrong.

Now you want to try to switch gears and deflect as you always do and say well...well....well...well...it takes time for these measures to take effect and see they worked. Yeah, except for one fact you want to discount which is the truth. COVID is a seasonal virus, this much has been ascertained. And warm weather in EVERY state led to drops in cases. And as soon as cold weather returned, cases rose. That is what the graphs clearly showed.

Next, and more importantly, you got NOTHING for this graph, which is the same for every state discussed. The 2nd wave. All of these states we are discussing saw a summer lull in cases/deaths. Then cold weather hit, cases and deaths rose. When these second waves hit, MASK MANDATES AND STAY AT HOME ORDERS WERE STILL IN PLACE.

Every 2nd wave out there shows, the masks/lockdowns did NOTHING....as has every recent study that's come out that demonstrate masks were ineffective, 6 feet of social distancing was bullshit, and the worst place we could be was locked at home.


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If the graphs clearly showed masking worked...why...didn't they work all the time? Huh....I guess only in Liberal LaLa land this **** makes sense.

RE: Population density, I'm just trying to figure out which way you're going today. South Dakota is rural and had a high case rate, but isn't densely populated...so you'll say it's because they have no lockdowns or mask mandates....but you'll overlook, oh say....New Hampshire which is also pretty rural, has no mask mandates and are the 5th best state in the union in low case rates.....

All you can do is point to one state that is an outlier. You can't establish a pattern.

I can....have....repeat doing so...only to have you come back and say "yeah but what about this county huh???"

Dolt.
 
Gee, those graphs seem to illustrate that the virus (like any virus in recorded history) simply has seasonal fluctuations, with perhaps mutations and regional shifts in infection rate.

Or, and bear with me here, people just all of a sudden forgot how to wear masks properly during that second wave! Right, Foggy?
 
Gee, those graphs seem to illustrate that the virus (like any virus in recorded history) simply has seasonal fluctuations, with perhaps mutations and regional shifts in infection rate.

Or, and bear with me here, people just all of a sudden forgot how to wear masks properly during that second wave! Right, Foggy?

Oh that will be his reply....

Flog: COVID isn't seasonal! (every doctor and epidemiologist says COVID is absolutely seasonal)

Flog: Clearly the masks/lockdowns led to cases going down....warm weather had nothing to do with it!! (except history...forever...shows us warm weather makes seasonal respiratory viruses go bye-bye, but Liberals believe in 59 genders, so...COVID is the only respiratory disease not affected by seasonality, except it is seasonal, but....)

Flog: The 2nd waves had NOTHING to do with mask mandates/lockdowns. People were stupid, they stopped wearing their masks, they went to Sturgis!!! That's why all 50 states suffered 2nd waves...cuckoo nesters

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Let's be clear, first: You said....let me repeat....NY, NJ and Mass were all hit VERY EARLY in the pandemic, BEFORE MASK MANDATES AND RESTRICTIONS.

What you said is emphatically, undeniably, *** wrong. They were at the tops in early responders and reactors. They reacted immediately. Stay at Home orders were implemented BEFORE any of their virus curves rose (cases or deaths) and mask mandates were implemented in the rise of cases, as I SHOWED you above. You're wrong.

Now you want to try to switch gears and deflect as you always do and say well...well....well...well...it takes time for these measures to take effect and see they worked. Yeah, except for one fact you want to discount which is the truth. COVID is a seasonal virus, this much has been ascertained. And warm weather in EVERY state led to drops in cases. And as soon as cold weather returned, cases rose. That is what the graphs clearly showed.

Next, and more importantly, you got NOTHING for this graph, which is the same for every state discussed. The 2nd wave. All of these states we are discussing saw a summer lull in cases/deaths. Then cold weather hit, cases and deaths rose. When these second waves hit, MASK MANDATES AND STAY AT HOME ORDERS WERE STILL IN PLACE.

Every 2nd wave out there shows, the masks/lockdowns did NOTHING....as has every recent study that's come out that demonstrate masks were ineffective, 6 feet of social distancing was bullshit, and the worst place we could be was locked at home.


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If the graphs clearly showed masking worked...why...didn't they work all the time? Huh....I guess only in Liberal LaLa land this **** makes sense.

RE: Population density, I'm just trying to figure out which way you're going today. South Dakota is rural and had a high case rate, but isn't densely populated...so you'll say it's because they have no lockdowns or mask mandates....but you'll overlook, oh say....New Hampshire which is also pretty rural, has no mask mandates and are the 5th best state in the union in low case rates.....

All you can do is point to one state that is an outlier. You can't establish a pattern.

I can....have....repeat doing so...only to have you come back and say "yeah but what about this county huh???"

Dolt.
“Liberal La La Land” Sure, Tim. Medical professionals and officials across the ENTIRE world that are more educated and successful than you’ll ever be are just part of a Liberal La La Land.

You have no control group for the second wave, you can’t say what it would have looked like without restrictions.

New Hampshire is less conservative than South Dakota and likely has less ideologically motivated Covid-rebellious morons, they also don’t host a huge motorcycle rally for such people.
 
“Liberal La La Land” Sure, Tim. Medical professionals and officials across the ENTIRE world that are more educated and successful than you’ll ever be are just part of a Liberal La La Land.

You have no control group for the second wave, you can’t say what it would have looked like without restrictions.

New Hampshire is less conservative than South Dakota and likely has less ideologically motivated Covid-rebellious morons, they also don’t host a huge motorcycle rally for such people.
do you ever pause before hitting "Post Reply"?

no, you do not. it's obvious.


The Laconia Motorcycle Week rally is often mentioned in the same breath as events in Daytona, Florida and Sturgis, South Dakota. After all, these are three of the most popular motorcycle rallies in the country, drawing in over a million riders and motorcycle enthusiasts, combined, every year.​


But Laconia can make a claim that the other two cannot. Often referred to as the Oldest National Motorcycle Rally, these roots reach back to the summer of 1916, when a Gypsy Tour gathered for several days at Weirs Beach on the southern shores of Lake Winnipesaukee
 
“Liberal La La Land” Sure, Tim. Medical professionals and officials across the ENTIRE world that are more educated and successful than you’ll ever be are just part of a Liberal La La Land.

TSF has posted dozens of published medical articles from physicians vastly smarter than you - though to be fair a canned ham is smarter than you - showing that cloth masks are completely ineffectual in protecting people from the Chinese flu.

You have no control group for the second wave, you can’t say what it would have looked like without restrictions.

Sure we do - the non-mask states, you idiot, which uniformly did as well or better than the lockdown crazies. TSF has posted literally dozens of articles, charts, graphs, showing this.

Fact.
 
Flog: The 2nd waves had NOTHING to do with mask mandates/lockdowns. People were stupid, they stopped wearing their masks, they went to Sturgis!!! That's why all 50 states suffered 2nd waves...cuckoo nesters

Flog: Idiots going to the non-lockdown states for, oh, I don't know, a life and then catching the Chinese flu because SCIENCE, and bringing it back home to the mask and lockdown areas, where they spread it to others in the lockdown/mask areas because lockdowns and masks work so well. Except me, okay, I may have gone to Florida and enjoyed the beach, but at all times I was wrapped up in one of Stacy Abrams' used lunch bags and protected. Cuz SCIENCE!!
 
You might want to google Laconia 2020 restrictions, it’s obvious you didn’t.

New Hampshire ... don’t host a huge motorcycle rally for such people.

but... the oldest goddamned motorcycle rally in the country is there... yet they dont host a motorcycle rally.
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“Liberal La La Land” Sure, Tim. Medical professionals and officials across the ENTIRE world that are more educated and successful than you’ll ever be are just part of a Liberal La La Land.

You have no control group for the second wave, you can’t say what it would have looked like without restrictions.

New Hampshire is less conservative than South Dakota and likely has less ideologically motivated Covid-rebellious morons, they also don’t host a huge motorcycle rally for such people.

Your beloved CDC just lifted the mask mandates LMAO!! Seems all those true scientists finally broke through to the junk scientists you've been following eh?

God Bless those states that showed, emphatically, lockdowns and masking only made matters worse.
 
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Oompah-loompah, loompa-dee-doo
I've got another riddle for you.
Oompah-loompah, loompah-dee-dags
Why are Flog and Decaf such giant D-bags?
Oompah-loompah, loompa-dee-dons
Because Flog and Decaf are worthless morons.
Oompah-loompah, loompa-dee-yit
Why do Flog and Decaf constantly post ****?
Oompah-loompah, loompa-dee-dump
Because Flog and Decaf envy President Trump.
Oompah-loompah, loompa-dee-delves
Why do Flog and Decaf embarrass themselves?
Oompah-loompah, loompa-dee-frump
Because Flog and Decaf take it in the rump.
 
Your beloved CDC just lifted the mask mandates LMAO!! Seems all those true scientists finally broke through to the junk scientists you've been following eh?

God Bless those states that showed, emphatically, lockdowns and masking only made matters worse.
Take your orange colored glasses off.

What does the CDC lifting mask mandates for FULLY VACCINATED people have to do with mask mandates PRIOR TO THE VACCINE? (And the vaccines are the ones you think are also based on junk science.)
 
Oompah-loompah, loompa-dee-doo
I've got another riddle for you.
Oompah-loompah, loompah-dee-dags
Why are Flog and Decaf such giant D-bags?
Oompah-loompah, loompa-dee-dons
Because Flog and Decaf are worthless morons.
Oompah-loompah, loompa-dee-yit
Why do Flog and Decaf constantly post ****?
Oompah-loompah, loompa-dee-dump
Because Flog and Decaf envy President Trump.
Oompah-loompah, loompa-dee-delves
Why do Flog and Decaf embarrass themselves?
Oompah-loompah, loompa-dee-frump
Because Flog and Decaf take it in the rump.

Are you alright, man? Is the nurse showing up soon with the silver tray & the meds? For the love of God I hope so. Try to hang in there a little while longer.
 
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Oompah-loompah, loompa-dee-doo
I've got another riddle for you.
Oompah-loompah, loompah-dee-dags
Why are Flog and Decaf such giant D-bags?
Oompah-loompah, loompa-dee-dons
Because Flog and Decaf are worthless morons.
Oompah-loompah, loompa-dee-yit
Why do Flog and Decaf constantly post ****?
Oompah-loompah, loompa-dee-dump
Because Flog and Decaf envy President Trump.
Oompah-loompah, loompa-dee-delves
Why do Flog and Decaf embarrass themselves?
Oompah-loompah, loompa-dee-frump
Because Flog and Decaf take it in the rump.
Where did I mention Trump? Awfully defensive, aren’t you!
 
What does the CDC lifting mask mandates for FULLY VACCINATED people have to do with mask mandates PRIOR TO THE VACCINE?

I know that it is a really tough and hard day for you Floggy, and I'm sure you're emotional. Your Liberal Badge is no longer forced upon the American people.

You're also not following the history here. The CDC has been telling people for months that they need to wear the masks even when vaccinated. Clearly you have been alive during this time period, yes? But you've been in your bubble....

This week, the testing and studies released backed the CDC into a corner. For instance, not one case, not ONE, on the entire planet, of someone catching COVID outdoors while walking, running, kayaking, taking their dog for a **** has been found. Not one. None. Zilch.

Numerous studies were released showing all of the CDC's masking recommendations for vaccinated people and outdoor masking were bullshit and thus the very quick re-direct.

Praise the true science for exposing the CDC's bullshit. What a GREAT day.
 
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