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Covid Vaccine

Tim Steelersfan said:
Yah. The New York Slime. Right. OK.

I don't know....how about the ******* CDC you love to love until you don't love what they say?

www.politico.com

New CDC studies point to waning immunity from vaccines

The publication of the studies comes a week after the agency released its first three reports on vaccine efficacy.
www.politico.com www.politico.com



Study One: Nearly a 30% point drop. Woah.



www.news-medical.net

Experts show waning effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines over time

In a letter to The New England Journal of Medicine, publishing online September 1, 2021, an interdisciplinary team of physicians and public health experts at University of California San Diego measured the effectiveness of COVID-19 mRNA vaccines among health workers at UC San Diego Health, most...
www.news-medical.net www.news-medical.net




Covid Study: Covid immunity wanes 6 months after the Pfizer vax - this is the Pfizer CEO....admitting the vaccines WANE


We have the Israel study, the LARGEST study of its kind done to date, that has been posted for you a dozen times:

Waning immunity of the BNT162b2 vaccine: A nationwide study from Israel

Background Starting December 2020, Israel began a mass vaccination campaign against coronavirus administering the Pfizer BNT162b2 vaccine, which led to a sharp curtailing of the outbreak. After a period with almost no SARS-CoV-2 infections, a resurgent COVID-19 outbreak initiated mid June 2021...
www.medrxiv.org www.medrxiv.org

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www.fiercepharma.com

Moderna, citing variants and waning immunity, expects COVID-19 boosters to become a fact of life

For anyone thinking aggressive COVID-19 vaccine rollouts would bring a quick end to the pandemic, Moderna has a word of caution. While U.S. authorities aren’t yet ready to recommend vaccine boosters, the company believes that add-on shots will become a fact of life for some as the virus sticks...
www.fiercepharma.com www.fiercepharma.com

www.cidrap.umn.edu

Studies: COVID vaccine protection waning against infection but not hospitalization

One study finds ebbing efficacy against infection in nursing homes, while 2 show sustained protection against hospitalizations.
www.cidrap.umn.edu www.cidrap.umn.edu

Nursing home protection drops to 53.1%​

Protection against infection falls to 79.8%​

www.bmj.com

Covid-19: Protection from two doses of vaccine wanes within six months, data suggest

Protection provided by two doses of the Pfizer and the AstraZeneca covid-19 vaccines wanes within six months, an analysis of UK data suggests. The latest analysis from the Zoe Covid Study, which investigates real world vaccine effectiveness, examined data from positive PCR test results between...
www.bmj.com www.bmj.com

www.bbc.com

Coronavirus: Waning immunity and rising cases - time to worry?

A month ago infection rates were falling - how concerned should we be about the change in direction?
www.bbc.com

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The ******* Washington Compost even states immunity is waning

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How much more evidence do you need?

I countered your New York Slime with the CDC (multiple studies), health experts and their submission to the NEJM, Pfizer's OWN CEO, a Medrxiv study, CIDRAP, the BMJ, the Liberal Washington Compost, and a European view published by the BBC.

But...the New York Slime says...

The evidence right now is pretty ******* overwhelming. Kudos to hanging on to the theory that vaccines are as effective day one as they are at 6 and 8 months.

Again I'll ask...if they were still effective, why will you need boosters?
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The NYT article quoted a Johns Hopkins epidemiologist and a doctor from Bellevue Hospital - two people, who unlike you, are qualified experts and actually know what they are talking about.

I never said the vaccines are as effective, I said they are still highly effective, which is what those articles show. 79.8% is ineffective? *****, please!

The problem isn’t the vaccine waning. It’s people that still refuse to get vaccinated.
 
Troglodyte said:
The NYT article quoted a Johns Hopkins epidemiologist and a doctor from Bellevue Hospital - two people, who unlike you, are qualified experts and actually know what they are talking about.

I never said the vaccines are as effective, I said they are still highly effective, which is what those articles show. 79.8% is ineffective? *****, please!

The problem isn’t the vaccine waning. It’s people that still refuse to get vaccinated.
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Medical professionals will always disagree. I'll take the OVERWHELMING number of professionals who say/study/know the vaccines are waning, including your beloved CDC over one link.

You've argued since day one the vaccines are a bullet-proof God send to save the world. You have refused to admit they are waning. Now you have.

You haven't admitted nor will you admit that Xiden lied when he said the vaccines would prevent you from getting COVID. You refuse to acknowledge what we were told initially the vaccines would be has not transpired.

NO you have defended the vaccines as magical elixers since day 1.

And in the midst of it all, with vaccines waning, you refuse to attribute any of the rises in cases/hospitalizations/deaths to the waning vaccines because it is "all math," an utterly stupid opinion you can no longer defend.

You also refuse to accept that the vaccines KEEP losing effectiveness by the day...like 25points in one month in some studies. I posted countless that show and document the decrease. Pretty soon, at this rate, they may fall below the FDA minimum level of 50% at this rate.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
My quote: "So you're saying the vaccines only work on the non-immunocompromised populations??"

How is that me asking if the vax works for the IMMUNOCOMPROMISED?
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You’ve worked your way into a frenzy! By answering that the vaccine (ALSO) works for the immunocompromised, how does that not answer the question, Tim?
 
Troglodyte said:
The NYT article quoted a Johns Hopkins epidemiologist and a doctor from Bellevue Hospital - two people, who unlike you, are qualified experts and actually know what they are talking about.

I never said the vaccines are as effective, I said they are still highly effective, which is what those articles show. 79.8% is ineffective? *****, please!

The problem isn’t the vaccine waning. It’s people that still refuse to get vaccinated.
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That’s literally not the takeaway from any of the other countries dealing with mrna vaccines… Canada just paid moderna for more tgen one booster shot per person in the country every two months for more than three years… that isn’t a sign they think the vaccine is stable
 
Troglodyte said:
By answering that the vaccine (ALSO) works for the immunocompromised, how does that not answer the question, Tim?
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madinsomniac said:
That’s literally not the takeaway from any of the other countries dealing with mrna vaccines… Canada just paid moderna for more tgen one booster shot per person in the country every two months for more than three years… that isn’t a sign they think the vaccine is stable
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I keep asking him, if the effectiveness of the vaccines is not waning, why do we need booster shots?

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Tim Steelersfan said:
Medical professionals will always disagree. I'll take the OVERWHELMING number of professionals who say/study/know the vaccines are waning, including your beloved CDC over one link.

You've argued since day one the vaccines are a bullet-proof God send to save the world. You have refused to admit they are waning. Now you have.

You haven't admitted nor will you admit that Xiden lied when he said the vaccines would prevent you from getting COVID. You refuse to acknowledge what we were told initially the vaccines would be has not transpired.

NO you have defended the vaccines as magical elixers since day 1.

And in the midst of it all, with vaccines waning, you refuse to attribute any of the rises in cases/hospitalizations/deaths to the waning vaccines because it is "all math," an utterly stupid opinion you can no longer defend.

You also refuse to accept that the vaccines KEEP losing effectiveness by the day...like 25points in one month in some studies. I posted countless that show and document the decrease. Pretty soon, at this rate, they may fall below the FDA minimum level of 50% at this rate.
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Tim, you completely misunderstand Trog.
Democrats good, Republicans bad.
Democrats right, Republicans wrong.
If what the Democrat said is the polar opposite of what he or she said last week, the Democrat is still right.
That's all you need to know.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
BTW, your fearless preacher Fraudci said today the Mu variant, technically known as B.1.621, has mutations suggesting "it would evade certain antibodies," potentially including those from vaccines.

Booster shot 12, come on down!
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That'd be the 2022 flu shot, for those keeping score at home
 
DBS1970 said:
No names or ages either.
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I'm guessing and going out on a HUGE limb here...but....they are educators. More likely to be Liberal. LIKELY most of them were vaccinated, if all. So there was political motivation to keep that out of the article.
 
All this talk of a glorified flu shot as a vaccine. It is not a vaccine. You won't have an end to getting flu shots for this.


It's going to run its course through all of the human race.


What I'm most interested in is the development in the bioweapons lab it came from in China.

I'd love to see those studies and just how this thing was developed and engineered.
 
DBS1970 said:
No names or ages either.
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The last sentence of the article..........

Officials haven’t released the identities of the other teachers or staff members, and a Miami-Dade County Public Schools spokesperson said the district doesn’t release the cause of death for employees or students.


So then, on what basis is the claim?
Seems like they just threw out a headline, not expecting people to read the fact lacking article.
 
When it's all said and done, future historians will scour this board for clues to see how things went so wrong, so fast in America. They won't have to search for long, it permeates the board at every turn. So sad to see what has happened, so many dark souls and closed hearts & minds.
 
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Tibs said:
When it's all said and done, future historians will scour this board for clues to see how things went so wrong, so fast in America.
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And they will look at the history of California, and they will have all of the evidence that they need.
 
Troglodyte said:
The problem isn’t the vaccine waning. It’s people that still refuse to get vaccinated.
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You keep saying that, but it really isn't true. You realize that the number of vaccinated NEVER goes down, and constantly goes UP, right? Once vaccinated, you are vaccinated. So many, many, many, many more are vaccinated as of September 4, 2021 than were vaccinated on August 4, 2021 and more on August 4, 2021 than on July 4, 2021.

So why the increase in cases? "The unvaccinated"? Bullshit. Just tell the truth for once.
 
Tibs said:
When it's all said and done, future historians will scour this board for clues to see how things went so wrong, so fast in America. They won't have to search for long, it permeates the board at every turn. So sad to see what has happened, so many dark souls and closed hearts & minds.
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I had no idea we were so powerful! Cool.

If historians ever read this site they're gonna see exactly how TDS made Americans jump right out of the frying pan into the fire. They will ask themselves how many times does someone have to prove that weak-kneed, appeasing foreign policy, class warfare and socialism always lead to disaster? That forcing people to do things rather than persuading them always leads to revolt? The lessons have been learned over and over again but Dumbocrats never seem to catch on.
 
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