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Covid Vaccine

Well isn't this special?

The CDC Reveals Estimate for How Many Americans Now Have ‘Natural Immunity’​



It has taken more than 18 months and a lot of prodding, but the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has finally revealed how many Americans have achieved natural immunity from COVID-19, and the number is staggering: More than 146.6 million.

The updated figures came last month after the agency had failed to provide updated immunity numbers since May.



My words: Let me insert....why wouldn't this data be updated monthly, or even weekly, along with daily dashboards on deaths, cases, hospitalizations, etc? Natural Immunity + vaccinations is how you get to herd immunity. Yet, our leading health organization, doesn't update these numbers. You CAN find out how many are vaccinated by county. But why not share this information? It's purely an algorithm. Same sort they use to estimate asymptomatic flu infections annually. Yet they go six full months without updating it. Why? Why hide this data? (I'm sure the response will be it's hard, they didn't have the data, blah blah. Right).


Article continues....

Natural immunity, for those who are not inclined to know the definition, means that many Americans have contracted the virus and have recovered from it; several virology experts have said natural immunity is the best form of protection against first-time infections and reinfections.

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The CDC estimates that 124 million of the 146.6 million infections resulted in “symptomatic illnesses,” although it is unclear why only one in four infections sought out medical treatment. The CDC further estimated that there were 7.5 million hospitalizations, although ‘hospitalizations’ may include routine treatment that happened to turn up a positive Covid-19 test, greatly inflating the figures.

Most inflated of all are the 921,000 “estimated total deaths.” The CDC reports “Covid-related deaths,” and not deaths caused by Covid-19. That is because 94% of Covid-related deaths had serious underlying medical conditions, such as heart disease, stroke, and diabetes. While Covid-19 may have been a contributing causal factor to the timing of a patient’s death, the vast majority occurred in patients who were immunocompromised or elderly. The average age of Covid-related death in 2020 was slightly under life expectancy at 77 years old.


The report goes on to note that the figure of 146.6 million may actually be an underestimate, based on earlier CDC calculations. In May, the government health agency estimated that around 120 million Americans at the time had contracted the virus. “Because the CDC estimated (and continues to estimate) there have been at least four Covid infections for every case reported, then based on its report of 46.9 million cases, then there would be 187.6 million Americans who were infected and thus possess ‘natural immunity,'” Becker News continued.
 
If it's admittedly over your head, how are you saying you're not sure it's reaching the conclusions they say it is? Bit odd.
Not sure? Meaning I don't really understand all of it, especially how things work at the cellular level? What's odd about that?

I get the general gist, but is the study suggesting this is actually happening in people or just an effect they were able to produce in the lab? In other words, is this something that "can" happen, or is it something that "is" happening?

It's unclear if it permanently alters the ability to repair DNA or if this is just something they observed that explains why some people's immune systems don't work well when they get infected with the virus. Does it just diminish the ability to repair or does it wipe it out completely? Does that effect go away ever? Is this effect worse if you get covid where presumably the virus is replicating and all over your body, or with the vaccine where the spike protein doesn't replicate but is shed from your body.

Obviously if the spike protein diminishes your ability to fight off the virus, it's a bad thing to have in the vaccines.

I have a lot of questions about the overall implications, that's all. I'm sure there is a lot we will learn about all of it.
 
I have explained to you the numerous reasons for the increase in VAERS reports but you would prefer to believe that the CDC and FDA are just lying to us and hiding the real data.

OFTB, I very much wish that the CDC had given me no reason to doubt their veracity. That would make the country a better, safer place to live.

However, the CDC has been caught REPEATEDLY lying about the Chinese flu, from its origin, to the masking orders, to orders shutting down schools, to the benefits of natural immunity, to the efficacy of the vaccines, to the need for vaccines by those under age 30, to the need for vaccines among grade-school kids. Total of 700 deaths among those under age 18 in the United States out of a population of more than 80 million.



Therefore, chances of dying from Covid at ages 0-18 are 0.00075% (700/80,000,000).

CDC response? Don't tell anybody that data and instead hire Big Bird to tell kids to get the vaccine, publish commercial where getting the vaccine makes you a superhero.

No, I don't believe the CDC is aware of a substantial number of fatalities from the vaccines and is now simply lying about the data. But I also believe the CDC is simply ignoring anecdotal evidence about problems associated with the virus and hoping everything works out, rather than undertaking serious efforts to determine if we have something to worry about.

The fact remains that the vaccines are statistically very safe, they significantly reduce people's chances of being hospitalized and dying from an extremely contagious virus. Misinformation is literally killing people. That's a shame.

That mantra - "misinformation is literally killing people" - is pretty much what you accuse Tim of doing with the VAERS data. You are assuming (1) a certain population that would have taken the vaccine but for alleged "misinformation" was convinced not to take the vaccine due to "misinformation" (which you didn't define - what is "misinformation" as opposed to information that you think lacks context?), (2) that population was then infected with the Chinese flu, (3) that population then dies due to not having been vaccinated rather than due to factors which would have killed the person even if vaccinated.

The great and noble powers that be - including an old man who sniffs kids, farts and ***** his pants while mumbling and creepy-whispering and a dullard woman who sucked dicks to advance her career - have approved of the mantra, "Covid misinformation is killing people." That phrase has been approved by our noble overlords, though as I explain, the phrase itself could well qualify as misinformation.
 
no one is blaming the vaccine for spreading it, dipshit.
we're saying the vaccines are not working as we were told they would.

why is that so goddamned difficult for you to understand?
And I’m saying the only way the vaccine works is if you’re vaccinated. Many tens of millions aren still not vaccinated and they are, by far, the primary reason why we are seeing cases and deaths. Find ONE legitimate source that states otherwise, I’ll wait.
 
Apparently you missed the basics of vaccines. When vaccines are effective, and massively distributed, cases and deaths drop. They don't rise.

WA has more of both this year. Despite being massively vaccinated.

And for vaccines that are "95% effective"....well...WA state proves...they aren't.
Where in the article does it state that, or support that statistically? Show your math.
 
So CMS released a new memo where visits can not be restricted in nursing homes. Currently we allow visitors in scheduled visits in a designated area. I don't understand how you can force people to take the shot or lose their job, but yet allow anyone off the street to visit regardless of vax status. Bunch of morons....
 
Not sure? Meaning I don't really understand all of it, especially how things work at the cellular level? What's odd about that?

Sorry let me rephrase the question a different way. You essentially said "I don't get it" but then say "not sure it's quite reaching the conclusions these guys are trying to claim it is." If you don't understand the topic, how can you throw shade at it? That's my question.

I get the general gist, but is the study suggesting this is actually happening in people or just an effect they were able to produce in the lab? In other words, is this something that "can" happen, or is it something that "is" happening?

The researchers said this happened in vitro (in the lab). Proving this is happening in real life? The study was just published in Oct. Maybe it's behind so many odd spikes in things like appendicitis? We will see if cancer diagnoses go up over the next few years. Probably too early to tell.

It's unclear if it permanently alters the ability to repair DNA

Their interpretation was it was permanent.

or if this is just something they observed that explains why some people's immune systems don't work well when they get infected with the virus.

This DNA repair breaking is a RESULT of the virus. Post-virus, post-vaccine, long-term effect.

Does it just diminish the ability to repair or does it wipe it out completely? Does that effect go away ever? Is this effect worse if you get covid where presumably the virus is replicating and all over your body, or with the vaccine where the spike protein doesn't replicate but is shed from your body.

Obviously if the spike protein diminishes your ability to fight off the virus, it's a bad thing to have in the vaccines.

I have a lot of questions about the overall implications, that's all. I'm sure there is a lot we will learn about all of it.

I don't understand it all either, but the general conclusion is that having Covid/having the vaccines damages your bodies ability to self-repair it's own DNA.
 
Where in the article does it state that, or support that statistically? Show your math.

What????? The **** are you talking about? Article???

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So CMS released a new memo where visits can not be restricted in nursing homes. Currently we allow visitors in scheduled visits in a designated area. I don't understand how you can force people to take the shot or lose their job, but yet allow anyone off the street to visit regardless of vax status. Bunch of morons....

Don't let /Floggy read this. He gone be right along and tell you how incredibly smart this logic is.
 
And I’m saying the only way the vaccine works is if you’re vaccinated. Many tens of millions aren still not vaccinated and they are, by far, the primary reason why we are seeing cases and deaths. Find ONE legitimate source that states otherwise, I’ll wait.

2020: No vaccines so entire population unvaccinated.
2021: Vaccines, 190 million vaccinated, but infection rate and deaths HIGHER than 2020.

And you think the unvaccinated are to blame? You really are a special kind of stupid.
 
2020: No vaccines so entire population unvaccinated.
2021: Vaccines, 190 million vaccinated, but infection rate and deaths HIGHER than 2020.

And you think the unvaccinated are to blame? You really are a special kind of stupid.

Just wait. He's gonna tell you it's math, watch.

He might even post the article OFTB originally posted (that he re-posted today)...a THIRD time.
 
Once again, math!! What we see below is not the failure of stringent lockdowns and high vaccination rates. No, what we see below is the failure to understand math. The vaccines are actually PREVENTING cases, you're just too stupid to see it.

 
Wow. Man is denied monoclonal antibody treatment because he is white. He is told (watch the video) when he asks "so if was black or hispanic I could get it" and the nurse says yep.

But this isn't racism. This is diversity and inclusion.

 
OK this is troubling. For those who have had Covid and those who have had the Vaccines. I watched the entire video. Yes I looked these guys up, yes people will try to discredit them. Take the time to watch their interpretation of the real meat. The study from Sweden. Don't like what they have to say? Read the study, ask a doctor or someone you trust to interpret it for you...

Essentially they say that the spike proteins prevent our body's natural mechanisms (BRCA1 and 53BP1) that lead to repair of DNA strands when damaged. Especially the 53BP1. Which leaves our immune systems damaged and leads to a host of problems, like cancers, etc.

Covid Spike Protein DRAMATICALLY Impairs Cell DNA Damage Repair​


Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS–CoV–2) has led to the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID–19) pandemic, severely affecting public health and the global economy. Adaptive immunity plays a crucial role in fighting against SARS–CoV–2 infection and directly influences the clinical outcomes of patients. Clinical studies have indicated that patients with severe COVID–19 exhibit delayed and weak adaptive immune responses; however, the mechanism by which SARS–CoV–2 impedes adaptive immunity remains unclear. Here, by using an in vitro cell line, we report that the SARS–CoV–2 spike protein significantly inhibits DNA damage repair, which is required for effective V(D)J recombination in adaptive immunity. Mechanistically, we found that the spike protein localizes in the nucleus and inhibits DNA damage repair by impeding key DNA repair protein BRCA1 and 53BP1 recruitment to the damage site. Our findings reveal a potential molecular mechanism by which the spike protein might impede adaptive immunity and underscore the potential side effects of full-length spike-based vaccines.

Watch the video for "their" interpretation.

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Tim, ST, Supe etc., it's a bit long but this is a must-watch about spike proteins and how Ivermectin actually blocks them from replicating. It's Jimmy Dore with the commentary but the PhD is Dr. John Campbell, who's channel is also a must-watch as the guy really does his homework and always backs up his findings with peer reviewed studies. So Pfizer is trying to patent their own similar therapeutic and they all knew about the benefits of Ivermectin since at least January 2021 and were still denying it as a therapeutic and calling it a horse de-wormer because it makes them no money (look at the cost difference)? And people wonder why we don't trust these monsters?

 
Sorry let me rephrase the question a different way. You essentially said "I don't get it" but then say "not sure it's quite reaching the conclusions these guys are trying to claim it is." If you don't understand the topic, how can you throw shade at it? That's my question.
I'm just giving you my general impression. I feel like you're dissecting my words looking for an argument. I said it's concerning, I want to know more before drawing conclusions about what it means in terms of people's health

Their interpretation was it was permanent.
Whose? The study authors or the guys in your video? I'll have to look at it again, I don't recall anything in the study that said it's total loss of DNA repair ability just impairment, or that it's permanent. Or anything in the study that concludes what effects it will have on people. I would think "Covid causes cancer" would be pretty big news if that is in fact what they are saying.
 
Tim, ST, Supe etc., it's a bit long but this is a must-watch about spike proteins and how Ivermectin actually blocks them from replicating. It's Jimmy Dore with the commentary but the PhD is Dr. John Campbell, who's channel is also a must-watch as the guy really does his homework and always backs up his findings with peer reviewed studies. So Pfizer is trying to patent their own similar therapeutic and they all knew about the benefits of Ivermectin since at least January 2021 and were still denying it as a therapeutic and calling it a horse de-wormer because it makes them no money (look at the cost difference)? And people wonder why we don't trust these monsters?



Just finished it. Fascinating.

Points:
  • Ivermectin, better at the job than the Pfizer drug. Effectively "blocks" better than Pfizer's.
  • Ivermectin - 6 cents
  • Pfizer drug - $3,000
  • Ivermectin patent is gone, so it can be made in generic for cheap for the world. But there's no money to be made on non-patented drugs I guess.
I like Dore.
 
2020: No vaccines so entire population unvaccinated.
2021: Vaccines, 190 million vaccinated, but infection rate and deaths HIGHER than 2020.

And you think the unvaccinated are to blame? You really are a special kind of stupid.
The vast majority of cases and deaths in 2021 were unvaccinated, what the **** do they have to do with the vaccines efficacy?
 
And I’m saying the only way the vaccine works is if you’re vaccinated. Many tens of millions aren still not vaccinated and they are, by far, the primary reason why we are seeing cases and deaths. Find ONE legitimate source that states otherwise, I’ll wait.
let me type this as incredibly slowly as humanly possible

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the "many tens of millions aren still not vaccinated" (nice butchering of the English language - I'm sure the Queen would be proud of how you bastardized it) are also in the group who have immuno-compromised systems and are for that exact reason unable to get vaxxed the shot.

That said, almost 80% of the country has had one dose. Currently at 68.5%. and the age group in the highest risk of getting WooFlooed are 74.9-99.9% "vaxxed".

Thus, your hyperfear of the Rona is vastly overblown. By a lot.

and again, the primary reason you're not seeing people rush to get the shot as they would if Katy Perry were giving free blowjobs is an overall distrust of the government. We've been over this quite a few times and the portion of the population who distrusts the government the most is black people. The black population primarily votes Democrat.

So you can go **** yourself with all that.
 
In 2020 the virus was not fully spread for several months. Our main peak was in October. Some other nearby facilities were hit a month or 2 earlier, but your still looking at over half the year gone. To compare 2020 to 2021 you would have to look at just the months covid was in full swing.
 
Once again, math!! What we see below is not the failure of stringent lockdowns and high vaccination rates. No, what we see below is the failure to understand math. The vaccines are actually PREVENTING cases, you're just too stupid to see it.


Did you mean “not preventing”? Or Sarcasm? Or have you waffled and acknowledge the vaccines work? Regardless, that’s a graph, not math. Here’s some math:

NZ 7 Day Avg Cases/100k: 4
NZ 7 Day Avg Deaths/100k: 0, ZERO

WV 7 Day Avg Cases/100k: 39
WV 7 Day Avg Deaths/100k: .72
 
let me type this as incredibly slowly as humanly possible

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the "many tens of millions aren still not vaccinated" (nice butchering of the English language - I'm sure the Queen would be proud of how you bastardized it) are also in the group who have immuno-compromised systems and are for that exact reason unable to get vaxxed the shot.

That said, almost 80% of the country has had one dose. Currently at 68.5%. and the age group in the highest risk of getting WooFlooed are 74.9-99.9% "vaxxed".

Thus, your hyperfear of the Rona is vastly overblown. By a lot.

and again, the primary reason you're not seeing people rush to get the shot as they would if Katy Perry were giving free blowjobs is an overall distrust of the government. We've been over this quite a few times and the portion of the population who distrusts the government the most is black people. The black population primarily votes Democrat.

So you can go **** yourself with all that.
Wait, what? All of the unvaccinated are immuno-compromised (“also in the group”) and therefore cannot get vaccinated? False. Most unvaccinated are by choice and there are many immuno-compromised that are vaccinated, (old people, cancer survivors, etc.)

Idiotic talking-out-your-*** nonsense.
 
I'm just giving you my general impression. I feel like you're dissecting my words looking for an argument. I said it's concerning, I want to know more before drawing conclusions about what it means in terms of people's health

Sorry I just found it odd for you to say you "didn't get it" but then appeared to draw a conclusion saying "but I don't think it's saying what you think it is saying" (which would mean you understand the article after saying you didn't).

Whose? The study authors or the guys in your video?

Both, that's what I gathered but I could be wrong...from the guys in "the" video, not my video.

I'll have to look at it again, I don't recall anything in the study that said it's total loss of DNA repair ability just impairment, or that it's permanent. Or anything in the study that concludes what effects it will have on people.

Impairment by 80% is what they conclude. That's...not good.

Top points from the article and the video:
  • The SARS-COV2-Spike protein "significantly inhibits" DNA damage repair.
    The spike protein localizes in the nucleus (where it should NOT be if discussing the vaccines)
  • The spike protein inhibits repair by impeding the DNA repair proteins BRCA1 and 53BP1 recruitment to the damaged site
  • NHEJ repair and homologous recombination (HR) repair are two major DNA repair pathways that continuously monitor and ensure genome integrity, and are also vital for adaptive immune cell functions.
  • In proliferating cells NHEJ repairs 75% of DSBs (double strand breaks - of DNA strands) while HR repairs the remaining 25%
  • DSBs, if not repaired, are the most serious. Non-repair means cell death, early stages of cancer, etc.
  • The researchers intentionally damaged DNA strands and found there are fewer repairs in the presence of spike proteins (per the graphs below, inhibited by ~80%)

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Our findings provide evidence of the spike protein hijacking the DNA damage repair machinery and adaptive immune machinery in vitro. We propose a potential mechanism by which spike proteins may impair adaptive immunity by inhibiting DNA damage repair. Although no evidence has been published that SARS–CoV–2 can infect thymocytes or bone marrow lymphoid cells, our in vitro V(D)J reporter assay shows that the spike protein intensely impeded V(D)J recombination. Consistent with our results, clinical observations also show that the risk of severe illness or death with COVID–19 increases with age, especially older adults who are at the highest risk [22]. This may be because SARS–CoV–2 spike proteins can weaken the DNA repair system of older people and consequently impede V(D)J recombination and adaptive immunity. In contrast, our data provide valuable details on the involvement of spike protein subunits in DNA damage repair, indicating that full–length spike–based vaccines may inhibit the recombination of V(D)J in B cells, which is also consistent with a recent study that a full–length spike–based vaccine induced lower antibody titers compared to the RBD–based vaccine [28]. This suggests that the use of antigenic epitopes of the spike as a SARS–CoV–2 vaccine might be safer and more efficacious than the full–length spike. Taken together, we identified one of the potentially important mechanisms of SARS–CoV–2 suppression of the host adaptive immune machinery. Furthermore, our findings also imply a potential side effect of the full–length spike–based vaccine. This work will improve the understanding of COVID–19 pathogenesis and provide new strategies for designing more efficient and safer vaccines.

I would think "Covid causes cancer" would be pretty big news if that is in fact what they are saying.

It will take years for this analysis to happen. It's been nanoseconds (relatively speaking) since we have been administering these vaccines.

A study conclusion is the spike protein messes with 53BP1 and BRCA1 - inhibits them doing their jobs. BRCA1 alterations are the markers used to identify breast cancers in women (you know when you hear them say "Sally has that gene marker." This is it). And 53BP1 - see quote below:

"It has been extensively demonstrated that aberrant expression of 53BP1 contributes to tumor occurrence and development. 53BP1 loss of function in tumor tissues is also related to tumor progression and poor prognosis in human malignancies."

The vaccines were never tested for this. And both Pfizer and Moderna have language in the vaccines saying "we didn't test for carcinogenicity."

Take it for what it's worth. Sounds pretty damning to me.

Finally, I find it odd what they point out. They are correct, we were told day one that the vaccines do not alter the DNA, they don't impact the cells. That they don't do gene editing. Yet this very study shows that the spike proteins are inside the nucleus. Hmmm.

If the study is bogus then it's bogus. If it's true, there are several damning things we've just learned. My take.
 

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