AB accused of Rape (update dipshit released by pats)

[Confluence]

Boomin'!

Is this what the

Bus I mess is Boomin'!

Is all about?

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[madinsomniac]

CNN writes erotica now?

Maybe they got Bernie Sanders on staff now...

 

[CharlesDavenport]

Welcome to the circus, ********!

 

[mightyguru]

Is this what the

Bus I mess is Boomin'!

Is all about?

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I assume...but I'm no Barbara Billingsley.

 

[Spike]

WTH? Why would a someone accusing another of rape meet with the accused employer? I can't imagine her attorney would think this is a good idea.

She's not gonna hurt her case case telling the NFL she was raped, thats exactly what she already detailed in her court allegations

Of course she she could do it sooner but she is waiting till next week to meet with the NFL because she's busy getting married this weekend

 

[Spike]

CNN writes erotica now?

juicy bits word for word from the court documents, you lazy ******* need to read the whole thing, im not spoon feeding you

 

[Paul G]

then there's this

Here's the court documents with that in there

https://www.documentcloud.org/docum...S-DIstrict-Court-in-Southern.html#document/p1

what language is this written in ??

 

[Spike]

I guess that's how educated college graduates talk these days, I wish we could see some of his essays from school

Here's the translator

 

[Steelmann]

Same thing happened to Ben who was suspended 6 games. No charges were brought against him from DA only allegations from both women. But still league suspended him for conduct detrimental to league policy. So why not Mr.Big Chest?


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If people,myself included,didn’t agree for this to happen to Ben,I certainly cannot agree for this to happen to AB.
From everything I have read so far,something smells fishy in more ways than one.

It sure is a slippery slope. It seems everyone can yell rape,and you are judged guilty,before tried. Reputations ruined for life. If proven that the rape allegations are false,the person should do the time the accused would have received.

 

[Stryker]

maybe I didn't hear it right, but while driving home a bit ago I swear NFL radio said AB's accuser is scheduled to meet with NFL next week. If true, WTH? Why would a someone accusing another of rape meet with the accused employer? I can't imagine her attorney would think this is a good idea.

It's how investigations are run. If the NFL wants to investigate, they have to interview the accuser.

 

[Hoot]

It's how investigations are run. If the NFL wants to investigate, they have to interview the accuser.

What legal jurisdiction does the NFL have? that is my point. The NFL is AB's employer, not law enforcement. Put it this way: If some thug assaults me on the way home from work, my employer doesn't interview the accused thug. It is a police matter and not an NFL (read employer/employee) matter. The NFL has no say in the accusers case. The accuser is meeting with the accused's employer, not the police (legal authorities).

I hear what Spike says above, but, again, victim should talk to attorney's not the accused employer. That makes no ******' sense.

edit: and let me add, the NFL as ABs employer has no legal right to interview the one accusing their employee. She can simply say "no". The employer has no rights to the case.

 

[Stryker]

What legal jurisdiction does the NFL have? that is my point. The NFL is AB's employer, not law enforcement. Put it this way: If some thug assaults me on the way home from work, my employer doesn't interview the accused thug. It is a police matter and not an NFL (read employer/employee) matter. The NFL has no say in the accusers case. The accuser is meeting with the accused's employer, not the police (legal authorities).

I hear what Spike says above, but, again, victim should talk to attorney's not the accused employer. That makes no ******' sense.

edit: and let me add, the NFL as ABs employer has no legal right to interview the one accusing their employee. She can simply say "no". The employer has no rights to the case.

Zero. They are a business, so they don't need proof or criminal conviction to punish or fire, like any other company really. I am certain she will be there with her legal council. That is how those corporate things work.

The NFL has been investigating criminal acts for decades. Anyone outside of employment doesn't have to cooperate, but if it helps their legal case, they will.

 

[JMM]

If we had just maintained a dominating running game, a stifling defense and not become so infatuated with the big pass plays, we'd all be focused on football right now and the Steelers would have had to hire at least two or three people to shine the room full of Lombardi Trophies. Might have been a good job for AB and his baby mama.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

I am in no way defending AB on anything, this is all entirely believable, but I am skeptical when a woman alleges sexual assault by a rich and/or famous man years after the fact and files a civil suit but never files criminal charges. Plus she kept working for him.

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

I am in no way defending AB on anything, this is all entirely believable, but I am skeptical when a woman alleges sexual assault by a rich and/or famous man years after the fact and files a civil suit but never files criminal charges. Plus she kept working for him.

and she is photgraphed in bed with him.

 

[Superman]

Clay Travis should be very entertaining today

he didn't fail.

just listened to Clay Travis on Facebook. He ripped Central Michigan for allowing AB to graduate since his English was horrible.

He brought up some interesting points.

1. She filed in civil suit, which is easier to get proven than in criminal suits. Based on his admittance that he did jerk off on her, that she can present a story that will make it more likely than not that she's believable. Doesnt mean that he DID anything, but that the story she could tell could make it hard to believe that AB did not rape her.

2. That this is a huge, ugly problem not only for AB, but also for the Pats and the NFL. Since the NFL's player conduct is investigated using the same rules/guidelines as set in civil court, the NFL has a serious problem. If they determine that it's more likely than not (50% plus a scintilla) that AB raped her, then they must suspend him. But to what degree? Guys get 4 games for drugs. What is a rape allegation charge? Remember, Ben got 6 games - reduced to 4 - for much less of an allegation.

3. If the NFL determines that this woman is lying ... in today's political climate, and with the NFL desperately trying to bring more women's spending money to their market, how will that play out in public perception of them calling her a liar publicly? It's not a good look for the NFL.

4. AB's lawyer should get this settled out of court ASAP, for his client, the Pats and the NFL based on all the above. If not, the Pats could very well release AB immediately so as to distance themselves from any negative publicity surrounding him.

5. the timing of the lawsuit. The Pats play in Miami. There's already talk about the DA investigating this. With the game in Miami, the Miami police may be instructed to investigate and question AB. So now, do the Pats bring AB to Miami, knowing he may not make the game Sunday?

6. If they leave him in Massachusetts, then what doe that say about them? They're already demanding innocent until proven guilty for Kraft's rub-n-tug case. By leaving AB behind, they're not upholding his innocence in all this. Not standing behind him.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

2. That this is a huge, ugly problem not only for AB, but also for the Pats and the NFL. Since the NFL's player conduct is investigated using the same rules/guidelines as set in civil court, the NFL has a serious problem. If they determine that it's more likely than not (50% plus a scintilla) that AB raped her, then they must suspend him. But to what degree? Guys get 4 games for drugs. What is a rape allegation charge? Remember, Ben got 6 games - reduced to 4 - for much less of an allegation.

It could be one reason why he wanted to get to New England. He knew this was coming and the league's punishment would be less severe if he played for the Pats******.

 

[Superman]

and she is photgraphed in bed with him.

yes, but there could be context to that. could she have just came into the room when AB took that picture?did she help him break in the mattress? or could it be something in between those?

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

just sayin those pics didnt help her case ...

 

[Spike]

The NFL has no say in the accusers case. The accuser is meeting with the accused's employer, not the police (legal authorities).

I hear what Spike says above, but, again, victim should talk to attorney's not the accused employer. That makes no ******' sense.

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This is a civil case, not a criminal one, all that means is its basically a he said, she said, fight over money for damages. She can lie without going to jail for contempt. The NFL is an interested party because they can control the purse strings, and along with the team have a stake in all this, AB is league property.Its not Perry Mason, its the Price is Right.

 

[Hoot]

Zero. They are a business, so they don't need proof or criminal conviction to punish or fire, like any other company really. I am certain she will be there with her legal council. That is how those corporate things work.

The NFL has been investigating criminal acts for decades. Anyone outside of employment doesn't have to cooperate, but if it helps their legal case, they will.

I am not questioning why the NFL would want to interview her. That is obvious. I am wondering why she would agree to do it. She is under no obligation to do so and it makes no sense that she would. I can see no gain for her and probably a few pitfalls for her case.

 

[madinsomniac]

For all you conspiracy nuts out there try this one out

AB was trying to get the Steelers to give him a new contract... his antics led them to finally put him on the trade block for real.... almost immediately Tom Brady contacted him, and the pats were offering a first for him, but the Steelers were going to trade him to buffalo... who would absolutely never have let him go to the pats even if they had to lose money doing so...
he manages to blow up that deal, and sink his value... the Steelers still won’t trade him to the Pats... they trade him to the raiders...

He then systematically starts trying to get cut from them... asking for a ridiculous new contract that they give him... all the tweets looking like a lunatic... the injuries and not practicing... the gm fight... everything... but Oakland never flinches about cutting him, so he gets this girl to file an obviously bs civil complaint knowing the Pats will still take him in and support him... but the Raiders snap and cut him right before week 1...

The wheels for this were already in motion...

The pats and AB are taking it lightly cause they know this girl is already a paid patsy who will recuse her story when pressed... ab is excused and the Pats come off looking good for standing by him...

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

nfl needs info to hedge their bets. Just how convincing is she? Lucid? Nut job? then we can make a wiser decision as to what to do with brown. They want out in front. Dont want to make NFL look bad now do we.

ps.

If the conspiracy thing is true.. Why would she wait till after he is released and pick up by the **'s to file the civil suit?

 

[Hoot]

This is a civil case, not a criminal one, all that means is its basically a he said, she said, fight over money for damages. She can lie without going to jail for contempt. The NFL is an interested party because they can control the purse strings, and along with the team have a stake in all this, AB is league property.Its not Perry Mason, its the Price is Right.

So your thought is there is advantage for her case in talking to the NFL - basically convincing the NFL of her allegations hoping they in turn will pressure AB to settle?

 

[Spike]

Its all about THE SHIELD!

Tarnishing the NFL by having an accused rapist on the field is all they care about

Millions of eyeballs on the games means billions in profit are at stake, its a public relations nightmare if they get it wrong, of course they will talk to her about a player's conduct.