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And it Begins:Special Prosecutor To Investigate Trump And Russia

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Mueller is going down


McConnell Vows to Block Vote on Bill Protecting Mueller Witch Hunt


Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) said Tuesday he will block a vote on a bill that would protect Robert Mueller and his Russian witch hunt.

Lawmakers are planning on attaching legislation to protect Mueller to a high-priority spending bill in order to get Trump’s judicial nominees installed.

House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA), who supports funding for President Trump’s wall said Tuesday, “I didn’t know Robert Mueller needed protection. Our southern border needs protection.”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...k-vote-on-bill-protecting-mueller-witch-hunt/
 
You certainly have a lot of confidence and hearfelt conviction in the wikileaks twitter account, lol. The fact you guys swear to the moon and back that major news organizations - like the Guardian, founded in 1821 - are a load of liberal, fake news crap, it forces your hand to side with fringe alt-right sources like breitbart, gateway pundit and.... the wikileaks twitter account.

Mainstream media has only itself to blame for their lost credibility. They are no longer impartial information sources. Now almsot all have chosen a side and become propagandists for a party.

There’s a reason the term "fake news" has stuck. It’s because they’ve been caught time and again reporting things they knew were false or intentionally misleading.

This whole Mueller investigation is a waste of time. Even Obama has publicly stated that not a single vote was changed by any sort of hacking. That’s not even what the investigation is about, yet the media promotes that intentionally false narrative because they hate Trump.

Years ago, the mainstream media was the best source of info and the internet was just fringe. But that has changed big time. Now there is more reliable reporting online than in the mainstream.

This even applies to sports. ESPN has been more interested in social justice over the last 5 or so years. These days i get most of my football info from various podcasts, blogs, and message boards than i do from ESPN.
 
I wish I had a dollar for every time you said that.

Don't blame me - or mock me - that Trump has been ******** bricks 24/7 for the past two years. That's on him. No idea why he's so flustered if evidently he has nothing to fear and is clean as a whistle.
 
Don't blame me - or mock me - that Trump has been ******** bricks 24/7 for the past two years. That's on him. No idea why he's so flustered if evidently he has nothing to fear and is clean as a whistle.

Your perception of reality is almost as ****** as your record of predictions. President Trump (triggered?) has been confident throughout the entire fake witch hunt because he knows he’s innocent. Does a guilty person continuously bitchslap the corrupt investigator? No. They’ve got Nothing!
 
Don't blame me - or mock me - that Trump has been ******** bricks 24/7 for the past two years. That's on him. No idea why he's so flustered if evidently he has nothing to fear and is clean as a whistle.

It;s been two years, and you still don't get it. Just like the dumbass MSM doesn't get it, and continues to get it wrong. So let me be clear........

Trump punches back. You think it is some panic bullshit, or he is running scared. He punches back. How often have you, or Elfie, or CNN, or Mother Jones been right these last two years. Not once. You sit back and hope for your Mueller savior to prove you right, but he won't. He has some scalps. But this will go down in history as the most shameful episode for the FBI and DOJ.

And Trump will have his revenge.
 
Trump has been confident throughout the entire fake witch hunt because he knows he’s innocent. They’ve got Nothing!

It's been two years, and you still don't get it. But this will go down in history as the most shameful episode for the FBI and DOJ. And Trump will have his revenge.

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For the record, and for the zillionth time, I don't want or wish for Trump to be found guilty of anything. Be it conspiring with a foreign nation (collusion), obstruction of justice, money laundering, lying to federal prosecutors, whatever the charges end up being.

What's bothered me about Trump from day one, is we have a President who's been carrying a load of dirty laundry - through the primaries and the election, then subsequently being elected President - without ever clearing his name of the allegations against him. That simply troubles me. It would trouble me the same if it wasn't Trump but anyone else, be they Democrat/liberal or Republican/conservative.

You guys love to throw the term TDS around like it's a bad thing. I look at it simply as wanting to hold our elected officials accountable. You cry and whine about Hillary Clinton and all her supposed wrongdoing, yet waltz right away from acknowledging or discussing - with merit - the allegations against Trump.

You were perfectly fine with Gowdy & Co grilling Clinton over Benghazi, but can't bring yourselves to even acknowledge there are serious charges against Trump and those close to him.

You lambasted Obama over the slightest thing, yet willfully ignore the constant flow of money into Trump's businesses, his time on the golf course, or his evading visiting our troops.

Anyone criticizing Trump is labelled hysterical and un-American. Clearly Trump means a lot to you guys, it hits you in the gut when guys like me sit here and riff on his shortcomings.

The irony of these past two years is that I've been waiting all this time for a single reason to support this President. All I see is a deeply suspect individual who's done nothing to rise above the frey. His instincts have been to double down. If ugly got him this far, he'll get even uglier to keep moving forward. There's term for that, an oxymoron: forward retreating. Regardless of which period of history we look at, that is simply not Presidential.

I cannot accept - and until further notice will not accept - the lies and deceptions coming from Donald Trump. I can't accept him or support him as a man or as a politician.

Contrary to all the slandering and false accusations around here, my views have nothing to do with getting checks from Soros (I wish) or being swayed by the MSM or whatever boogeyman you guys concoct. I'm a business owner and manager who happens to be a relatively liberal-minded 49-year old, father of three teenage kids who respects and supports many conservative policies and politicians. At least I used to.

I simply hate and resist bullshit, in all walks of life. To me Trump signifies and personifies bullshit like nobody else of our generation.

You guys hate my guts cause I hate Donald Trump. But the feeling isn't reciprocal. I enjoy this board and whatever slivers of actual discussion we have around here.

Trump derangement syndrome (TDS) is a neologism describing a reaction to United States President Donald Trump by liberals, progressives, and anti-Trump conservatives, who are said to respond to Trump's statements and political actions irrationally and with little regard to Trump's actual position or action taken.[SUP][1][/SUP] The term has also been used to discredit criticism of Trump's actions.[SUP][2][/SUP]
 
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For the record, and for the zillionth time, I don't want or wish for Trump to be found guilty of anything. Be it conspiring with a foreign nation (collusion), obstruction of justice, money laundering, lying to federal prosecutors, whatever the charges end up being.

What's bothered me about Trump from day one, is we have a President who's been carrying a load of dirty laundry - through the primaries and the election, then subsequently being elected President - without ever clearing his name of the allegations against him. That simply troubles me. It would trouble me the same if it wasn't Trump but anyone else, be they Democrat/liberal or Republican/conservative.

You guys love to throw the term TDS around like it's a bad thing. I look at it simply as wanting to hold our elected officials accountable. You cry and whine about Hillary Clinton and all her supposed wrongdoing, yet waltz right away from acknowledging or discussing - with merit - the allegations against Trump.

You were perfectly fine with Gowdy & Co grilling Clinton over Benghazi, but can't bring yourselves to even acknowledge there are serious charges against Trump and those close to him.

You lambasted Obama over the slightest thing, yet willfully ignore the constant flow of money into Trump's businesses, his time on the golf course, or his evading visiting our troops.

Anyone criticizing Trump is labelled hysterical and un-American. Clearly Trump means a lot to you guys, it hits you in the gut when guys like me sit here and riff on his shortcomings.

The irony of these past two years is that I've been waiting all this time for a single reason to support this President. All I see is a deeply suspect individual who's done nothing to rise above the frey. His instincts have been to double down. If ugly got him this far, he'll get even uglier to keep moving forward. There's term for that, an oxymoron: forward retreating. Regardless of which period of history we look at, that is simply not Presidential.

I cannot accept - and until further notice will not accept - the lies and deceptions coming from Donald Trump. I can't accept him or support him as a man or as a politician.

Contrary to all the slandering and false accusations around here, my views have nothing to do with getting checks from Soros (I wish) or being swayed by the MSM or whatever boogeyman you guys concoct. I'm a business owner and manager who happens to be a relatively liberal-minded 49-year old, father of three teenage kids who respects and supports many conservative policies and politicians. At least I used to.

I simply hate and resist bullshit, in all walks of life. To me Trump signifies and personifies bullshit like nobody else of our generation.

You guys hate my guts cause I hate Donald Trump. But the feeling isn't reciprocal. I enjoy this board and whatever slivers of actual discussion we have around here.

First 20 words a complete bold faced lie. Sorry Tibs there is not a single person on the board that believes that statement.
 
First 20 words a complete bold faced lie. Sorry Tibs there is not a single person on the board that believes that statement.

I agree, Tibs that is just not true. Furthermore most of us do not hate your guts over your TDS we just don't understand how someone seemingly intelligent can't be self reflective enough to not see what is painfully obvious. At least have the decency to be intellectually honest with us. I can handle that much better than the show of saying one thing but acting another way.

We might disagree with you but with possibly a few exceptions I don't think anyone hates you. You're a downright decent guy on the Foottball forum unlike some. We might hate your opinions but that doesn't translate to personal hate for most people or shouldn't.
 
First 20 words a complete bold faced lie. Sorry Tibs there is not a single person on the board that believes that statement.
What I wrote in my first twenty words - did you count them? - is true for my entire post. It's what it is dude, like it or not.
 
I agree, Tibs that is just not true.

Sorry you feel that way Lebanon, I tried to make my position clear. I guess it's hard to believe, but everything I wrote is how I feel about US politics currently.
 
We just don't understand how someone seemingly intelligent can't be self reflective enough to not see what is painfully obvious.
Is it truly 'painfully obvious' to you Trump has been cleared in the Mueller investigation? You must be exceptional reading the tea leaves. Seems to be up in the air, still, after two whole years.
 
Tibs, you have resorted to typical liberal bullshit virtue signalling. Nobody is buying what you are selling. It would be nice to have a liberal voice around here that has fact based arguments.
 
Tibs, you have resorted to typical liberal bullshit virtue signalling. Nobody is buying what you are selling. It would be nice to have a liberal voice around here that has fact based arguments.
Fair enough, hope you guys can find 'that guy' through a catalogue or on Amazon. Maybe there'll be discount shipping for the holidays. Be well.
 
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Fair enough, hope you guys can find 'that guy' through a catalogue or on Amazon. Maybe there'll be discount shipping for the holidays. Be well.

Tibs, I am willing to discount your opinion. All you are doing is virtue signalling, and playing the martyr.

Pick up your game.
 
For the record, and for the zillionth time, I don't want or wish for Trump to be found guilty of anything. Be it conspiring with a foreign nation (collusion), obstruction of justice, money laundering, lying to federal prosecutors, whatever the charges end up being.

What's bothered me about Trump from day one, is we have a President who's been carrying a load of dirty laundry - through the primaries and the election, then subsequently being elected President - without ever clearing his name of the allegations against him. That simply troubles me. It would trouble me the same if it wasn't Trump but anyone else, be they Democrat/liberal or Republican/conservative.

You guys love to throw the term TDS around like it's a bad thing. I look at it simply as wanting to hold our elected officials accountable. You cry and whine about Hillary Clinton and all her supposed wrongdoing, yet waltz right away from acknowledging or discussing - with merit - the allegations against Trump.

You were perfectly fine with Gowdy & Co grilling Clinton over Benghazi, but can't bring yourselves to even acknowledge there are serious charges against Trump and those close to him.

You lambasted Obama over the slightest thing, yet willfully ignore the constant flow of money into Trump's businesses, his time on the golf course, or his evading visiting our troops.

Anyone criticizing Trump is labelled hysterical and un-American. Clearly Trump means a lot to you guys, it hits you in the gut when guys like me sit here and riff on his shortcomings.

The irony of these past two years is that I've been waiting all this time for a single reason to support this President. All I see is a deeply suspect individual who's done nothing to rise above the frey. His instincts have been to double down. If ugly got him this far, he'll get even uglier to keep moving forward. There's term for that, an oxymoron: forward retreating. Regardless of which period of history we look at, that is simply not Presidential.

I cannot accept - and until further notice will not accept - the lies and deceptions coming from Donald Trump. I can't accept him or support him as a man or as a politician.

Contrary to all the slandering and false accusations around here, my views have nothing to do with getting checks from Soros (I wish) or being swayed by the MSM or whatever boogeyman you guys concoct. I'm a business owner and manager who happens to be a relatively liberal-minded 49-year old, father of three teenage kids who respects and supports many conservative policies and politicians. At least I used to.

I simply hate and resist bullshit, in all walks of life. To me Trump signifies and personifies bullshit like nobody else of our generation.

You guys hate my guts cause I hate Donald Trump. But the feeling isn't reciprocal. I enjoy this board and whatever slivers of actual discussion we have around here.

Boo fuckity hoo, whiney lying k-unt.
 
For the record, and for the zillionth time, I don't want or wish for Trump to be found guilty of anything. Be it conspiring with a foreign nation (collusion), obstruction of justice, money laundering, lying to federal prosecutors, whatever the charges end up being.

What's bothered me about Trump from day one, is we have a President who's been carrying a load of dirty laundry - through the primaries and the election, then subsequently being elected President - without ever clearing his name of the allegations against him. That simply troubles me. It would trouble me the same if it wasn't Trump but anyone else, be they Democrat/liberal or Republican/conservative.

You guys love to throw the term TDS around like it's a bad thing. I look at it simply as wanting to hold our elected officials accountable. You cry and whine about Hillary Clinton and all her supposed wrongdoing, yet waltz right away from acknowledging or discussing - with merit - the allegations against Trump.

You were perfectly fine with Gowdy & Co grilling Clinton over Benghazi, but can't bring yourselves to even acknowledge there are serious charges against Trump and those close to him.

You lambasted Obama over the slightest thing, yet willfully ignore the constant flow of money into Trump's businesses, his time on the golf course, or his evading visiting our troops.

Anyone criticizing Trump is labelled hysterical and un-American. Clearly Trump means a lot to you guys, it hits you in the gut when guys like me sit here and riff on his shortcomings.

The irony of these past two years is that I've been waiting all this time for a single reason to support this President. All I see is a deeply suspect individual who's done nothing to rise above the frey. His instincts have been to double down. If ugly got him this far, he'll get even uglier to keep moving forward. There's term for that, an oxymoron: forward retreating. Regardless of which period of history we look at, that is simply not Presidential.

I cannot accept - and until further notice will not accept - the lies and deceptions coming from Donald Trump. I can't accept him or support him as a man or as a politician.

Contrary to all the slandering and false accusations around here, my views have nothing to do with getting checks from Soros (I wish) or being swayed by the MSM or whatever boogeyman you guys concoct. I'm a business owner and manager who happens to be a relatively liberal-minded 49-year old, father of three teenage kids who respects and supports many conservative policies and politicians. At least I used to.

I simply hate and resist bullshit, in all walks of life. To me Trump signifies and personifies bullshit like nobody else of our generation.

You guys hate my guts cause I hate Donald Trump. But the feeling isn't reciprocal. I enjoy this board and whatever slivers of actual discussion we have around here.

The huge difference is that There's loads of proof of Hillary's crimes and shady dealings and there's no proof at all that Trump did anything wrong, It's all just allegations based on a report paid for by Hillary.

Don't forget, Comey outright stated that Hillary broke the law, before laughably adding...but she didn't mean it so no prosecution for her.

Now look at these people trying to equate Ivanka using private email to Hillary as if there's no difference between Ivanka's personal email and Hillary as Secretary of State using her private server for official government documents, some of which were known to be classified.

That sums it up right there. What you have against Trump is **** thrown at a wall while there's evidence of real crimes by Hillary that are pushed aside as nothing.
 
I'd much rather Trump haters simply admit that they hate him because after Obama pushed through Obamacare, they thought that their socialist takeover was finally happening. 8 more years under Hillary would have cemented all these bloated programs and made them almost impossible to reverse.

Then Trump won at the critical time. The Trojan Horse of socialized medicine was wheeled inside the gates under Obama. Hillary would have been the one to let the soldiers out to ransack that town, but instead Trump showed up and lit a bonfire under the horse.
 
For the record, and for the zillionth time, I don't want or wish for Trump to be found guilty of anything. Be it conspiring with a foreign nation (collusion), obstruction of justice, money laundering, lying to federal prosecutors, whatever the charges end up being.


So, all the times you were here calling Trump a traitor, criminal, rapist, money launderer, etc, you were just kidding? Just trying to update my scorecard. And what if there are no charges?
 
I'd much rather Trump haters simply admit that they hate him

Show me a Trump hater that hasn't admitted it. It's a badge of honor.


For me, I don't like him much, but I don't hate him. He's an egomaniac and kind of a blow hard. But he damn sure isn't the monster the left makes him out to be, surely isn't worth all the histrionics, and hasn't done an awful job as President. At any rate, it is better than the alternative, I'll say that.
 
So, all the times you were here calling Trump a traitor, criminal, rapist, money launderer, etc, you were just kidding? Just trying to update my scorecard. And what if there are no charges?

It won't matter to Tibs. He hates Trump so much that he would find a way to blame Trump for NOT doing anything wrong.
 
For the record, and for the zillionth time, I don't want or wish for Trump to be found guilty of anything. Be it conspiring with a foreign nation (collusion), obstruction of justice, money laundering, lying to federal prosecutors, whatever the charges end up being.

What's bothered me about Trump from day one, is we have a President who's been carrying a load of dirty laundry - through the primaries and the election, then subsequently being elected President - without ever clearing his name of the allegations against him. That simply troubles me. It would trouble me the same if it wasn't Trump but anyone else, be they Democrat/liberal or Republican/conservative.

You guys love to throw the term TDS around like it's a bad thing. I look at it simply as wanting to hold our elected officials accountable. You cry and whine about Hillary Clinton and all her supposed wrongdoing, yet waltz right away from acknowledging or discussing - with merit - the allegations against Trump.

You were perfectly fine with Gowdy & Co grilling Clinton over Benghazi, but can't bring yourselves to even acknowledge there are serious charges against Trump and those close to him.

You lambasted Obama over the slightest thing, yet willfully ignore the constant flow of money into Trump's businesses, his time on the golf course, or his evading visiting our troops.

Anyone criticizing Trump is labelled hysterical and un-American. Clearly Trump means a lot to you guys, it hits you in the gut when guys like me sit here and riff on his shortcomings.

The irony of these past two years is that I've been waiting all this time for a single reason to support this President. All I see is a deeply suspect individual who's done nothing to rise above the frey. His instincts have been to double down. If ugly got him this far, he'll get even uglier to keep moving forward. There's term for that, an oxymoron: forward retreating. Regardless of which period of history we look at, that is simply not Presidential.

I cannot accept - and until further notice will not accept - the lies and deceptions coming from Donald Trump. I can't accept him or support him as a man or as a politician.

Contrary to all the slandering and false accusations around here, my views have nothing to do with getting checks from Soros (I wish) or being swayed by the MSM or whatever boogeyman you guys concoct. I'm a business owner and manager who happens to be a relatively liberal-minded 49-year old, father of three teenage kids who respects and supports many conservative policies and politicians. At least I used to.

I simply hate and resist bullshit, in all walks of life. To me Trump signifies and personifies bullshit like nobody else of our generation.

You guys hate my guts cause I hate Donald Trump. But the feeling isn't reciprocal. I enjoy this board and whatever slivers of actual discussion we have around here.

The problem with this is most of the investigations into Trump (and your first sentence on his supposed illegalities) is about stuff BEFORE Trump became President. I could care less if he indirectly laundered money for the Russians if he sold them property in Miami (you seem to care about that). I could care less if he had a meeting with some Russian who said she had dirt on Clinton and nothing came out of it except talking about adoptions. You seem to care about that. This was Trumps first campaign EVER. He was bound to get caught up in the tangle of wires and strings that go along with running for a huge elected office the first time, especially when he is used to how the New York real estate and politics probably work. Just because the Clinton Machine, which has been in politics for 30 years, is better at breaking the rules than Trump doesn't make it better or Trump "more guilty" or worthy of this type of scrutiny.

I find it very disingenuous that NOW you care about the abuses of politicians and you (for the longest time) defended the Clintons and Obama. NOW you say you resist "all bullshit" from politicians. That statement in itself is bullshit. You don't resist bullshit from politicians. They are ALL bullshit artists. Obama, Bush, Clinton, Reagan, Pelosi, Waters, et. al. ... you name it, they all did it. It's NOW you complain so vigorously about it. NOW it's the fall of democracy. NOW is always the sky-is-falling bullshit from you and the media. I see through that easily so don't bullshit me.

You constantly come on here and say "X thing Trump did" is destroying western civilization so melodramatically. It's bullshit. Yes, Trump talks out his *** in a unique way when compared to other politicians. So what? All politicians talk out there *** (just a lot more eloquently). What real HARM does it do? You float bullshit stuff about it making us "more racist" or the "world doesn't respect us as much". That's just not true or even relevant to the conversation.

Obama's policies in the Middle East caused 10 times the problems of "Trump's tone and uncouthness and exaggerations". Obama's smooth talking didn't make a god damn difference to actually FIX things. So why should I care about a President that doesn't talk smoothly?

I just don't buy your logic that NOW it's this huge problem. That Trump has somehow gone over some mysterious "point of no return" to you about how Presidents are supposed to talk and act. Because I love his politics and policies and positions on actual issues. They are kind of combination old-school Republican and a new Nationalism I find refreshing and needed after Obama's constant globalization talk and apology tours around the world.

We can debate Trump's "new Republican" platform all you want. But I am sick and tired of his "business past", some boogeyman "Russian Conspiracy" or he is too "uncouth" and "bullshits" too much has any relevance to our democracy or western civilization. When you want to talk about those things, that's pretty much "I just don't like him" and has nothing to do with his ability to be President - at least to me. And it's why I will fight you (and those like you and the media) tooth and nail to defend him. Your overreaction is my reaction.
 
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