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As long as the Steelers aren't getting the money from it.
Art speaking now,
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Dan Jr. has a shot at turning the ship around. A year or so ago he spouted off (fire & compassion) on the O’Canada thing and was not heard from since.
He has been groomed in all aspects of the team, bottom to top.
I think he was told to cool it and was also given a time-frame of his dad stepping down.
I think k that step down will directly correlate to Coach Tomlin’s exit.
I can’t wait for all the above to happen. Tomlin has soured this team / franchise / to no end and all done by the owner approval.
Salute the nation
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"Keeping the owners happy" equals the stands full and $ keep piling in from TV. That's it, that's all Rooney cares about, and it shows.
They say by the 3rd generation of the guy who makes it is trash, spoiled, privileged, non-grinder. I guess that is what happened to Art II. Dan was still a motivated chap, but the team was not by the time Mr. Lawyer Art II took over. His only concern was the revenue coming in, not in championships. The outcome is predictable. It's as Art II doesn't even feel the need to apologize for the team's lack of drive. There is no championship drive left in them, period. They settle for a coach with a non-losing record, that's it.
https://marketrealist.com/p/who-owns-pittsburgh-steelers/
Team was worth $3 billion, Art II owns 1.2 billion of it.
Art is most-worried about diversity of the team, good God, yea, that's what he should be most worried about, way to go Art. So xxxx of you.
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Did you really think he would anything other than what he said.
There's no way in hell he would eat those contracts of the coaches.
There's no way in hell he would eat those contracts of the coaches.
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Well at least he didn't pull a Tomlin lying to Harrison on us. He was honest about mediocrity being the standard.
Shameful.......The Chief is probably rolling in his grave.
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The team ownership is about the money and increased value coming in. How the team does is really a distant concern. Money is all that really matters.
The fans are about being #1 more than the next team’s fans. Nothing more.
The fans are about being #1 more than the next team’s fans. Nothing more.
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Could’ve listened to the Bears offer and shed $16million payroll
Could’ve signed Ben Johnson for $13…certainly any coach would take the Steelers lifetime appointment over the Bears
Easy math…save $3 million and get a fresh start
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Well Art II holds the league minimum of 30% of the team to retain controlling entities.
While this doesn't show who owns how much, this is who makes up the majority of minority ownership
- Several other members of the Rooney family, including Art Rooney Jr., John Rooney, and the McGinley family, who are cousins to the Rooneys.
- The Robert A. Paul family of Pittsburgh and Los Angeles, which is primarily involved with Pittsburgh-based Ampco Pittsburgh Corporation as well as Morton's Restaurant Group, Urban Active Fitness, Meyer Products and Harley Marine Services. Additionally, family members serve on numerous boards, including Cornell University, UPMC, University of Pittsburgh, the American Red Cross, Harvard Medical School and the Loomis Chaffee School.
- Former Steelers wide receiver John Stallworth, a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
- Legendary Pictures president and CEO Thomas Tull.
- GTCR chairman Bruce V. Rauner.
- The Peter Varischetti family of Brockway, which owns several nursing homes and a commercial real estate business.
- Paul Evanson, chairman, president, and CEO of Allegheny Energy.
- Russ and Scott Swank of Lower Burrell.
Sadly, sadly.
same reaction from me when i see you posting.
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So is the no trade clause in Tomlin's contract accurate information?
Who does that as a coach anyway? Weird.
The worst part about the whole thing wasn't necessarily what he said, but his energy was like what the Steelers looked like in the past 5 or 6 playoff games, no energy what so ever, no fire, nothing.
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Art seems like he doesn’t want to be there. Just going through the motions and doing his due diligence. I never felt like Art ever had the passion he should have had only assuming control because it was expected of him.
The guy simply shows no passion, emotion or even anger that his team resides where they are.
No owner would tolerate such mediocrity this long and playoff failures only this guy. Tomlin has become the Marvin Lewis that we would make fun of and even Mike Brown finally had enough of it.
I cannot stand listening to another bullshit session from Tomlin again nor the lifeless owner who just goes through the motions of being an owner.
The guy simply shows no passion, emotion or even anger that his team resides where they are.
No owner would tolerate such mediocrity this long and playoff failures only this guy. Tomlin has become the Marvin Lewis that we would make fun of and even Mike Brown finally had enough of it.
I cannot stand listening to another bullshit session from Tomlin again nor the lifeless owner who just goes through the motions of being an owner.
Its the spin. All the lackeys are out bitching about the state of the roster... its BS.
Yeah there are positions like Wr and Dt that could ise another playmaker... but overall this roster is extremely compareable to contending rosters... even with the ? At QB
We have a coaching philosophy issue and Art 2 wont recognize it because he shares the same philosophy...
People think their issues stem from being cheap... that isnt the case... that was the other Rooneys who wanted money invested in their racetracks... the football Rooneys are just stubborn and set in their ways
In a digital world, they arent analog.. they are typewrites and snail mail... they may still use abacuses...
Dan pushed the envelope on front office and scouting philosophies and play-style modifications more than you think... Art is just trying to copy what he did... but the league evolved past all of that
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Money post. The roster isn’t bad outside of a few holes and QB. The coaching staff doesn’t get the most out of the players because they aren’t coached up and play ultra conservative. After the first mistake they go full turtle mode. That style wouldn’t win when it counts even if we did have a franchise QB in place.
So, out of curiosity, I looked up on Steelers.com how many people are employed by the front office:
https://www.steelers.com/team/front-office-roster/
I counted over 270 people: administration (owners), the coaching staff, football operations, business office, trainers/medical staff, communications, IT, ticket sales, marketing/media, stadium and merchandising, and something called business analytics and corporate partnerships. Over 270 people employed, and I'd venture to guess many of those people (not named Rooney) are getting 6-figure salaries. I'd also venture to guess that some of those employees' jobs would be on the line if all of a sudden people stopped coming to Accrisure for games and not buying concessions, jerseys, parking passes, etc. Over an 8 or 9 home game season, that's beaucoup bucks. Think the Rooneys would care if they had to call people in and let them know they no longer have a job? I seriously can't think of any other way to get the owners' attention that Steeler Nation is fed up, and their refusal to make meaningful changes has devolved to what we see now.
Then again, TV money/revenue sharing being the mega-money monster that it is, my idea for a fan strike may be about as useful as **** on a bull.
https://www.steelers.com/team/front-office-roster/
I counted over 270 people: administration (owners), the coaching staff, football operations, business office, trainers/medical staff, communications, IT, ticket sales, marketing/media, stadium and merchandising, and something called business analytics and corporate partnerships. Over 270 people employed, and I'd venture to guess many of those people (not named Rooney) are getting 6-figure salaries. I'd also venture to guess that some of those employees' jobs would be on the line if all of a sudden people stopped coming to Accrisure for games and not buying concessions, jerseys, parking passes, etc. Over an 8 or 9 home game season, that's beaucoup bucks. Think the Rooneys would care if they had to call people in and let them know they no longer have a job? I seriously can't think of any other way to get the owners' attention that Steeler Nation is fed up, and their refusal to make meaningful changes has devolved to what we see now.
Then again, TV money/revenue sharing being the mega-money monster that it is, my idea for a fan strike may be about as useful as **** on a bull.
Here's what I don't understand:
It seems to be nearly a consensus that the problem is the Rooneys are only about money, and not concerned with the product on the field. But wouldn't a better product lead to more revenue? Wouldn't another Super Bowl appearance help to create increased value for the franchise going forward?
It seems to be nearly a consensus that the problem is the Rooneys are only about money, and not concerned with the product on the field. But wouldn't a better product lead to more revenue? Wouldn't another Super Bowl appearance help to create increased value for the franchise going forward?
The consensus is frustrated and looking for answers/reasons.
I think the idea that he is in it for the just the money is hogwash.
Rooney is a proud Pittsburgher. So deeply involved in the Pittsburgh community.
I have to believe there is nothing more he wants than to hoist another Lombardi for the city and its people.
I think he is convinced that firing Tomlin isn’t the way to do it.
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